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Letter to an Anti-Trump Christian Friend
Townhall.com ^ | August 8, 2020 | Wayne Grudem

Posted on 08/08/2020 5:54:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

[Note: This article is based on an actual letter. The recipient’s name and some minor details have been changed.]

Aug. 5, 2020

Dear Zachary,

Thank you for your thoughtful, honest email explaining why you felt frustration and anger about my public support of Donald Trump. I'm glad that you wrote as you did rather than leaving the matter unspoken.

Thank you also for writing, as a long-time friend, to express your concerns that my support of Trump might jeopardize the reputation that I have built as a trusted professor of theology and ethics for the last 43 years, and that my pro-Trump stance undermines the credibility of the label “evangelical,” and even of the Christian gospel itself.

I take these objections seriously. I have pondered them for several days. Please consider the following twelve points of response:

1. No consideration of policies

At the beginning of your email, you write, “This email does not concern policy.” The rest of the email concerns what you see as President Trump’s character flaws.

But that means that your email fails to address the entire reason for my support of Trump. In every column that I’ve published in support of Trump, I have explicitly registered my disapproval of his character flaws and previous immoral behavior. I support him because of the policies he has enacted and will enact, and in spite of his character flaws (which I don’t think rise to a level that would disqualify him from being president; more on this below).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: evangelicals; grudem; waynegrudem
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1 posted on 08/08/2020 5:54:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

If history is any indicator, this person will never understand. Trying to convince someone like this is an exercise in futility.


2 posted on 08/08/2020 6:00:12 AM PDT by systemjim (Lifetime Lover of Music)
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To: Kaslin

Hopefully, Zachary will listen and change his opinion.


3 posted on 08/08/2020 6:05:38 AM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply.)
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To: Kaslin

Excellent piece.


4 posted on 08/08/2020 6:09:04 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: Kaslin

This letter is AMAZING. Every. Single. Word.

This is perhaps the best defense I’ve ever read encouraging Christians to vote for President Trump.

Astounding.


5 posted on 08/08/2020 6:22:23 AM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Kaslin

Wow. What a great article. It’s a keeper.


6 posted on 08/08/2020 6:25:45 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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To: Kaslin

It is a long read, but worth it. I found his points pertinent and I may be able to use them when dealing with some family members.


7 posted on 08/08/2020 6:29:23 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Kaslin

“Letter to an Anti-Trump Christian Friend”

The title Grudem chose is wrong. A person who would not vote for Trump is not a “Christian”. Whether the person votes for Biden or writes in a candidate (who has not chance of winning), he is voting against someone — the only viable candidate — who will try to protect the unborn. Christians do not kill children.


8 posted on 08/08/2020 6:32:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve already shared this with a couple of people .... says what I think/feel about Trump much better than I ever could.


9 posted on 08/08/2020 6:33:18 AM PDT by Qiviut ("I have never wished death upon a man, but I have read many obituaries with pleasure" Mark Twain)
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To: Kaslin

Excellent commentary.

I’m printing this, rereading it, and sharing copies with my Christian friends.

If you say that you Love God, but hate your brother, you are a liar. This commentary highlights the priorities of Christian policy and points out the hypocrisy of supporting the democrat policies.


10 posted on 08/08/2020 6:35:28 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Kaslin

If you run into a church friend, who seems squishy regarding Trump, this commentary would be a good one to give to that friend.

it clearly lays out the ‘Case for Trump’ from an evangelical perspective.


11 posted on 08/08/2020 6:37:45 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Theo

It sure is.


12 posted on 08/08/2020 6:40:47 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: sauropod

Hopefully he will.


13 posted on 08/08/2020 6:41:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: sauropod

I doubt it. Yes, God is able. But it once again smacks of Spiritual Pride and Self Righteousness - the most deceptive of sins.

I wonder what Jesus saw in Peter when he called this bombastic, flesh-following, back-turning, cursing hothead to ‘Feed My sheep’. Probably the willingness of heart.


14 posted on 08/08/2020 6:43:46 AM PDT by time4good
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To: Jemian

Yes it is a long read. I normally don’t excerpt articles from Townhall.com unless I have to according to FR rules. Articles by Victor Davis Hanson is an example.


15 posted on 08/08/2020 6:46:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like neither of these guys truly believe in God’s forgiveness and redemption.
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Have they read their Bibles and seen the flawed people God has chosen to lead his people? Moses, David, Peter, for just a few.

They both sound a little “holier than thou”. One is willing to accept him because he accepts his actions as good even though he is flawed and the other can’t get over that he has shown flaws.

I’d win a billion dollar bet that those guys have character flaws of their own and could use some forgiveness and redemption.


16 posted on 08/08/2020 6:47:18 AM PDT by tiki (Obamagate)
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To: systemjim
The article is extremely well written. The author is a talented, knowledgeable, professional.

The article is mostly written for everyone else, but his friend.

It is beautifully done.

I have already forwarded it, and I do not forward many.

17 posted on 08/08/2020 6:51:55 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: tiki

God forgives your sins if you ask him to do so, but he won’t do it automatically.


18 posted on 08/08/2020 6:59:01 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Jemian
There is an EXCELLENT response in the comments section, too. I think it really needs FReepers to see it.

Posted in Townhall article by TemporaryGuest:

(I know, I know ... I've posted this before. but the democrats haven't changed a bit, so I figure it's still current.)

Speaking of character flaws:

“These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto
him:

A proud look, (Picture Nancy Pelosi tearing up her copy of the presidents state of the union address.)

a lying tongue, (What was that Russia Collusion thing all about? Why do we call the Fake News Media the Fake News Media? [Hint: It belongs to the democrat party])

and hands that shed innocent blood, (Abortion on demand, the “right” to kill [slaughter] babies by the millions, even as they are being born or shortly after .. for convenience and taxpayer money, whether tax payers want to pay for slaughtering babies or not.)

An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, (God approves of “same-sex marriage” ... “gender fluidity” ... men aren't really men and women aren't really women. Everybody’s children should be taught in public schools that homosexual “love” is normal and that only hate-filled, phobia driven bigots would disagree.)

feet that be swift in running to mischief, (Collect yourself a crowd and run president Trump's cabinet members and conservatives out of restaurants! Let them know that they're not welcome! Ala Maxine Waters. Or just gleefully and belligerently join a rampaging mob in destruction of property and lives. You go, antifa and BLM! Tear down those cities! especially anything that has to do with law enforcement!)

A false witness that speaketh lies, (False rumors about phone calls that lead to impeachment and other lies by the gazillions because we just don't like the man. The democrats and their party owned media seem to be utterly incapable of mentioning Donald Trump's name without telly some lie about him.)

and he that soweth discord among brethren.” (political tribalism dividing the country at every opportunity for political gain and the deliberate creation of Black Lies Matter and Antifa anarchy for the express purpose of angering Americans against Americans.)
--Proverbs - 6:16-19

The democrats have absolutely no reason to complain about Donald Trump's Character, unless the problem is that they just can't stand to see a better man in the White House than anything they have to offer.

19 posted on 08/08/2020 7:06:56 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: Kaslin

Using reason and logic with Liberals is like owning a Yugo. It won’t get you anywhere. Trying to make one work is an exercise in futility.

Liberals deal only in feelings.


20 posted on 08/08/2020 7:17:44 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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