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Supreme Court denies New York City teachers' request to block vaccine mandate
The Hill ^ | 10/01/2021 | The Hill

Posted on 10/01/2021 2:36:04 PM PDT by cdnerds

The Supreme Court on Friday rejected a request from a group of New York City public school teachers to block the city's coronavirus vaccine mandate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nyc; reapwhatyousow; scotus; soniasotomayer; sotomayer; supremecourt; supremefart; supremes; thesupremefart; vaccinemandate
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To: Luke21

I know!
Let’s all count how many bullets we have and ask rhetorically if the left knows the total.
‘Counting bullets’ doesn’t scare anyone.
Even if they’re those “super deadly, designed to do maximum damage” 22 cal AR rounds.


81 posted on 10/01/2021 3:51:46 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: DoughtyOne

Please remind me who the “he” is, you are referring to
at the SCOTUS. This was a woman, Justice Sotamayor

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Amy Coney Barrett made the same decision in a case brought by students at Indiana. ( when it comes to politics Trump couldn’t pick the winner of one horse race. Sorry but I can’t help saying it when I see our liberty being taken away so easily)


82 posted on 10/01/2021 3:57:57 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: spacejunkie2001; TexasGurl24
what are we looking at time frame wise? I hate to see these teachers lose their jobs, or WORSE, take the vaccine because they don’t want to lose their job.

It depends. If a teacher is still on probationary status, they have limited due process rights regarding termination from their job.

But in New York, tenured teachers are a whole different matter. Once teachers receive tenure (including tenure by estoppel!), they now have a property interest that cannot be diminished, diluted, etc. As such, they have a statutory right to due process rights which are mainly exercised by means of a State Education Law 3020-a hearing. A hearing officer is selected and both sides (teacher and district) make their case. In most cases, the hearings are brought as a result of misconduct, but there are also reasons such as pedagogical incompetence, failure to maintain/obtain certification, etc.

These teachers will draw full pay and benefits while not teaching. The school could require them to do work at the school (if they were not to be in the classroom), but I'm not sure they can even do that re: vaccinations.

A few years ago the 3020-a process could take up to 1 1/4 years. There were changes to the law in 2015 that did result in some quicker turnarounds, but with COVID-19, I'm sure the process is taking longer. Teachers could be looking at 6-12 months for the hearing process to complete.

And because that teacher is home, collecting pay and benefits, the district still has a vacancy to fill, which they would have to do with a long-term substitute, etc.

83 posted on 10/01/2021 4:01:52 PM PDT by Fury
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To: bramps

I do think his appointments were off. In the past appointments
pretty much represented the policies of the president. I
will admit, in the Cabinet more that at the SCOTUS. There
about anything has always taken place.

He was betrayed by just about every appointee it seems.

As for SCOTUS, it may come to down still being left of
center.

Look, we thought these were good people. I don’t
remember anyone here dumping on Barrett. I don’t
remember people trashing Justice Roberts.

We all thought we were getting good people.

Looks like we were wrong. In the case of Barrett,
we were as wrong as Trump. Roberts too, but then
he didn’t appoint him.


84 posted on 10/01/2021 4:03:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Perhaps because SCOTUS would have sided with the teachers?


85 posted on 10/01/2021 4:03:38 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Fury

Re: 83 - 3020-a hearings don’t always go the school district’s way. That’s why New York City has teacher “rubber rooms” where teachers that can not to be in the classroom push paperwork from pile A to pile B, read the newspaper, etc. I think I remember reading that one guy got his PhD while in a rubber room!


86 posted on 10/01/2021 4:04:25 PM PDT by Fury
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To: DownInFlames
The might break up the NEA.

Aw, that's what they said about the New York Yankees in their dynasty years.

87 posted on 10/01/2021 4:05:20 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Stravinsky
You're correct.

I'm one of the keepers of the FR keys on the federal courts. I like to attach a name to the faceless "a federal judge today ruled", their particular court, who appointed them, and the Senate confirmation vote.

There is a "circuit justice" attached to every appeals court:

John Roberts:

DC Circuit
Fourth Circuit
Federal Circuit

Stephen Breyer:

First Circuit

Sonia Sotomayer:

Second Circuit

Samuel Alito:

Third Circuit
Fifth Circuit

Brett Kavanaugh:

Sixth Circuit
Eighth Circuit

Amy Coney Barrett:

Seventh Circuit

Elena Kagan:

Ninth Circuit

Neil Gorsuch:

Tenth Circuit

Clarence Thomas:

Eleventh Circuit

88 posted on 10/01/2021 4:06:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: cdnerds

Let’s mandate every judge in America to get the jab. My guess is we would be a lot better off.😊


89 posted on 10/01/2021 4:07:15 PM PDT by jimbug
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s the Hill, the house organ for the Demoncrat Party.


90 posted on 10/01/2021 4:07:37 PM PDT by Shady (The #JihadJunta is in full control in DC..The Prince is toast..And who killed Ashli Babbitt? )
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To: Fury

AND... NYSUT will aggressively defend teachers in 3020-a hearings. If I were the school district, I’d ask any teachers if they were close to retiring and offer them an incentive to retire. That way you can hire a new teacher that is not maxed out on salary step and don’t have to hire a long-term substitute while the teacher is home.


91 posted on 10/01/2021 4:07:51 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Missouri gal

New report from Lifesite News says nearly 50,000 Medicare recipients died within 2 weeks of the poison shot. (Analyst took data from Medicare, not VAERS.) Outrageous crimes against humanity.

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Thanks for that info. Such a twisted story it deserved to be posted again. Really wish a prominent politician (or perhaps a prominent ex politician) would scream these facts from the rooftops.


92 posted on 10/01/2021 4:08:40 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Shady

That’s how I see “the Hill” also.

Every once in awhile they get it right. Probably so they
can’t point to it once in a great while.

“See, we’re even handed.”

No...


93 posted on 10/01/2021 4:10:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: cdnerds

Time to go on strike!


94 posted on 10/01/2021 4:23:17 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: cdnerds

I keep seeing theses leftist judges in blue states enforcing these mandates even against religious reasons. By that notion, everyone should be required to be an organ donor.


95 posted on 10/01/2021 4:23:40 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: McGavin999

America has so many enemies. Now so many inside the gates. Our country will cease to exist as a republic very soon.


96 posted on 10/01/2021 4:27:08 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: DoughtyOne
"She shouldn’t even be on the bench > IMO."

At this point in time, the SC has proven itself obsolete. It shouldn't't even exist.

97 posted on 10/01/2021 4:51:16 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: bramps

Fully agree. We need to be posting this far and wide. Also a major spiked story is the “crimes against humanity” charges in international court against the poison shot. Not a peep from complicit media. Still spreading “safe and effective” garbage.


98 posted on 10/01/2021 5:05:16 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: cdnerds

Wise Latina has spoken.


99 posted on 10/01/2021 5:08:11 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: mass55th

I wouldn’t got quite that far, and the SCOTUS being there
does help on occasion.

It is what it is.

I want people on the court who have had a track record in
the Circuit Courts. I want people who know what it’s like
to deal with reality in a court from day to day.

Book learning, does not fully prepare someone for the
SCOTUS > IMO.


100 posted on 10/01/2021 5:08:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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