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Biden to propose new ‘billionaire’s tax’ on richest Americans: report
Nypost ^ | 03/26/2022 | Mary Kay Linge

Posted on 03/26/2022 4:51:22 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

The Biden Administration is poised to announce a new tax on the wealthy that could send Elon Musk into orbit.

Biden’s “Billionaire Minimum Income Tax” proposal would set a 20 percent tax rate floor on Americans worth more than $100 million — hitting not only their stated income, but also their unrealized gains on stock holdings and other forms of wealth.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; biden; bidenflation; billionaires; gaslighting; heslyingagain; letsgobrandon; richest; scrolldown; tax
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To: Steely Tom

“They can tax income. Property or the value of stock options are not income.”

And yet I pay county property taxes every year.

Silly me.


21 posted on 03/26/2022 5:18:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Depopulate the depopulationists. --FJB)
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To: Steely Tom

Property taxes essentially already do all of this.


22 posted on 03/26/2022 5:26:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ChicagoConservative27
A tax on "unrealized gains" is a "direct tax" per Constitutional law, and is not covered under the terms of the 16th Amendment, because unrealized gains are not "income." Were that not the case, Congress would be able to levy taxes on property. The fact they cannot legally do so is "settled law."
23 posted on 03/26/2022 5:26:36 PM PDT by sourcery (‘We Are An Evil Company.. You’re Better Off Catching COVID Than Getting Vaccine’ ~ 3 Pfizer Scientis)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The several states have always been Constitutionally allowed to tax property, even since the Constitution was ratified.

The Federal government can only do so if the tax is “apportioned among the states.” Which is why none of the “property taxes” you pay, or have ever paid, are sent to the US Treasury.


24 posted on 03/26/2022 5:28:57 PM PDT by sourcery (‘We Are An Evil Company.. You’re Better Off Catching COVID Than Getting Vaccine’ ~ 3 Pfizer Scientis)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

As inflation takes off—we’ll all be billionaires!


25 posted on 03/26/2022 5:31:53 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Joe knows that the way to earn untaxable money is to get elected to political office and have your relatives sell access to your influence.


26 posted on 03/26/2022 5:31:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Is it time for a general strike yet?)
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To: Husker24

Yeah


27 posted on 03/26/2022 5:35:04 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Junta Joe already hit nearly everyone with his biggest tax yet: Inflation. After centuries of Governments using the same ploy people still don’t realize it is a tax.


28 posted on 03/26/2022 5:52:31 PM PDT by Nateman (Xi Jinping is the most diabolical enemy Americans has ever had. 🍊)
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To: Steely Tom
...Many Democrats have been talking about a "wealth tax" for years.

Inflation combined with a capital gains tax is already a wealth tax. Your property gets its value inflated and then you pay the tax on that bogus gain.

29 posted on 03/26/2022 5:56:41 PM PDT by Nateman (Xi Jinping is the most diabolical enemy Americans has ever had. 🍊)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Sounds good to me since so many of them are lefties.

Make them make good on all their social conscience bs.

Maybe they would get a clue?

Nah.


30 posted on 03/26/2022 6:03:08 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Taxing unrealized capital gains is just theft. We’re in a kleptocracy.


31 posted on 03/26/2022 6:30:35 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Rowdyone

I guess ByeDone’s handlers have taken over the purse strings? Maybe Nasty handed them over, and, Congress approved, in the dead of night.

Oh, wait....that was the most recent porkulus, where that happened.


32 posted on 03/26/2022 6:33:13 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: sourcery

The Articles of Confederation allowed Congress to demand states send Congress tax money based on the wealth of each state.

This indirect taxing power probably still exists since not all 13 states had to ratify the Constitution to make the Constitution valid.


33 posted on 03/26/2022 6:47:06 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Most of them are woked out liberals anyways, except Musk I guess.

Anyways, I don’t feel sorry for em. They deserve it.


34 posted on 03/26/2022 6:58:36 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Taxing unrealized gains is an unconstitutional fifth amendment taking without fair market value.

The Kelo decision was couched as a fifth amendment issue of "public good" versus "public use," but was actually a taking of unrealized gain.

The city of New London, CT, thought they could get higher property taxes (the "public good") if current private property (individual homes) was taken and the property used for businesses that were worth more (the unrealized gain). The fifth amendment only authorizes takings for "public use" such as schools, roads, and other government needs.

The unrealized gains were never actually realized, as the business project that New London counted on never happened. They were left with no public good and no more property owner base to pay the existing taxes.

This is the fallacy of unrealized gains; those gains are not certain outcomes. If the government were allowed to seize people's stock portfolios when a stock appreciates (forcing a certain realization) and force a sale when the shareholder is not ready to sell, that is an illegal taking. They might as well force a homeowner to rent a spare room so they can gain the income tax on the rental fee, if all they are interested in is creating an unrealized gain and then realizing it.

-PJ

35 posted on 03/26/2022 7:11:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ChicagoConservative27
HANG ONTO YOUR WALLETS, AMERICA!!!

History proves it: every time the Democrats say they're gonna tax the rich, they hit the MIDDLE CLASS.

Every.

Damn.

Time.

36 posted on 03/26/2022 7:13:11 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: skeeter
Meaning the plan is per usual. First put the tax in place, then consecutively lower the rate till they get to the real money the middle class has.

Exactly.

They'll put the tax in place and write the law so it's easily avoided by really rich. They'll then drop the brackets down until it encompasses the middle class. The net result will be yet another tax increase on the middle/upper middle class while billionaires circumvent taxation.

Billionaires are the ones that fund the lifestyles of elected officials. Elected officials in turn write the tax laws so they're advantageous to their paymasters. That's why the super rich are usually democrats, they know they won't pay under democrats taxation schemes and the democrats anti-business mindset makes it very difficult for start-ups to compete with democratic donors established companies. Ask yourself how Bill and Hillary Clinton, neither of which ever made more than $200,000 a year when they were in office, are now worth $200 million. It didn't happen because they were really good savers.

37 posted on 03/26/2022 10:06:16 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: All

There goes the Mars colonization scheme and the free Windows upgrades. Good.


38 posted on 03/26/2022 11:00:00 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell ("This is no training exercise, commander." "Well yes it is, we are training you to die.")
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To: Vermont Lt

FTA: ...but also their unrealized gains on stock holdings and other forms of wealth...

Gov’t: Looks like you are going to make a million. Gimmee!

Taxpayer victim: I have not made any money yet. It is being invested to help that company grow and make money. They will hire more people. Once the stock price goes up and IF I sell then I will make money that can be taxed.

Gov’t: Nope, we want made up money that we can tax that we determine the amount of.

Taxpayer victim: I will then not invest and the company will lose and the employees will be let go and no money will be made.

Gov’t: Not our problem. We can always print money.


39 posted on 03/27/2022 12:12:14 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy gas)
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To: House Atreides

Exactly!


40 posted on 03/27/2022 3:31:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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