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‘Gay clubs’ run in seminaries, says Pope Benedict in posthumous attack on Francis: New book by the late pontiff makes extraordinary claims about the Catholic Church under his progressive successor
The Telegraph ^ | 01/23/2023 | Nick Squires

Posted on 01/23/2023 8:22:16 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: noiseman

All the major churches have been infiltrated.


21 posted on 01/23/2023 8:55:21 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

John Paul II was a tough and smart guy. And Benedict XVI was, as far as I can tell, a tough and smart guy. And both held mighty office.

Yet evidently both were unable to make a dent in the church’s homosexual mafia. Is that mafia really that powerful? Or is something else going on here?


22 posted on 01/23/2023 8:55:52 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

Maybe JPI was a warning of what happens when you mess with them.


23 posted on 01/23/2023 8:57:09 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Leaning Right
Yet evidently both were unable to make a dent in the church’s homosexual mafia. Is that mafia really that powerful? Or is something else going on here?

Maybe they're both gay.

24 posted on 01/23/2023 8:58:04 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: jarwulf

Homosexuality, and not by any stretch priestly celibacy, is the root cause.

Psychiatrist Dr. Richard Fitzgibbons wrote the memo. If I can find it I’ll send it to you

He was qualified to deliver the verdict to the American Church hierarchy. Which he did—about 20 years ago. And the latter responded in the manner you might guess they would. Shamefully so.


25 posted on 01/23/2023 8:58:44 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Leaning Right
John Paul II was a tough and smart guy. And Benedict XVI was, as far as I can tell, a tough and smart guy. And both held mighty office. Yet evidently both were unable to make a dent in the church’s homosexual mafia. Is that mafia really that powerful? Or is something else going on here?

They just were never invited to the parties, is all. So they never really knew about it.

26 posted on 01/23/2023 8:58:59 PM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a CONSERVATIVE dictator to return it to a Constitutional Republic. )
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To: noiseman
he Catholic Church never really had a pedophile problem, it had a homosexual infiltration problem. I’ve been convinced for years that there was a long-term conscious effort to infiltrate and corrupt it.

I maybe heard of ONE or TWO girls being victims from priests.

27 posted on 01/23/2023 8:59:54 PM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a CONSERVATIVE dictator to return it to a Constitutional Republic. )
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To: Leaning Right

It is, and has been, for generations.


28 posted on 01/23/2023 9:00:23 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: dfwgator

> Maybe JPI was a warning of what happens when you mess with them. <

I’ve thought about that. But by golly, sometimes you’ve got to just strap on your helmet, take incoming fire, and storm the enemy fort. JP II had that sort of grit. No doubt about it. Benedict probably did as well. Yet evidently both of them declined to take the risk.

That surprises and disappoints me, particularly in the case of JP II.


29 posted on 01/23/2023 9:03:21 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

The straight guy who is willing to give up sex and family just doesn’t exist anymore in very large numbers. These days the only type of man who is willing to give up the touch of a woman to live for the rest of their mortal life among a bunch of other men is oftentimes unsurprisingly a closeted gay man.


30 posted on 01/23/2023 9:03:24 PM PST by jarwulf
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To: SeekAndFind

There are filthy priests in the Catholic Church and its members know it. Have been for a long time and in great numbers. Burn it to the ground and start over. Or a schism.


31 posted on 01/23/2023 9:03:43 PM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess the book “What Christianity Is” is not yet published.
I’d like to buy it when available.
Amazon may choose not to sell it.


32 posted on 01/23/2023 9:03:47 PM PST by lee martell
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To: noiseman

Husband and I went to a conservative affair in New Jersey years ago and met a monsignor who told us he was involved in interviewing applicants for a seminary. He personally had rejected several homosexuals and that there was an ongoing effort by the communists to infiltrate seminaries with their applicants.


33 posted on 01/23/2023 9:05:19 PM PST by mountainfolk
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To: SeekAndFind
I've heard stories of guys who were off to the seminary. The gay mafia would tempt them into gay trysts. If they succeeded, they "owned" them, and had blackmail power over them to their families or whoever, if they didn't toe the line.

If the young men did not "bite" on the gay stuff, the would tempt them with women, also to get blackmail on them.

That's how the mafia kept their power.

34 posted on 01/23/2023 9:10:37 PM PST by Pappy Smear
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To: SeekAndFind

Seminaries are not unlike universities. Hmm, makes you wonder what else is going to collapse.


35 posted on 01/23/2023 9:12:11 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: jarwulf

“....just doesn’t exist anymore in very large numbers....”

Then Holy Mother Church shrinks and gets by with fewer holy priests. Benedict predicted this.


36 posted on 01/23/2023 9:13:50 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: SeekAndFind

The Vatican needs to come clean on what happened to Emanuela Orlandi, the 15 year old Vatican girl who disappeared in June 1983. So many secrets they’ve held close to the vest.


37 posted on 01/23/2023 9:22:46 PM PST by Mozzafiato
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> So they never really knew about it. <

The Vatican has a decent intelligence service. So I find that to be a bit hard to believe. The best I can guess is that John Paul II and Benedict both just decided to kick the can down the road to avoid embarrassing the church.

If that was the case, it was a pretty miserable decision.


38 posted on 01/23/2023 9:24:20 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am done with marxist ideology in my church.
The Catholic Church faithful need to choose.
Traditional doctrine, or a socialist/marxist church which will resemble nothing close to biblical teaching.
Being a traditionalist, I know what I choose!

Let a schism in the Catholic Church happen if it must.


39 posted on 01/23/2023 9:31:31 PM PST by bantam
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To: jarwulf

The entire world is infected by post-modernism, and the Catholic Church is infected. It resisted it, but the walls are crumbling.

I went to a Jesuit University. I met there some very scholarly, urbane old Jesuits, and some fruity, young (very likely) homosexual Jesuits.

What bothers me most is their hypocrisy. Even in the 1990s, the world would not have cared if they were homosexuals, but they chose the ONE profession which of course was against homosexuality and demanded celibacy, and then live a LIE.


40 posted on 01/23/2023 9:35:25 PM PST by PGR88
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