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Nikki Haley Blames ‘Democrat Plant’ for Civil War Question Gaffe
Breitbart ^ | 12/28/2023 | SEAN MORAN

Posted on 12/28/2023 9:00:57 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley on Thursday blamed a “Democrat plant” for a question about what caused the Civil War. The presidential candidate neglected to include “slavery” in her list of reasons.

During a town hall on Wednesday, a member of the audience asked the former South Carolina governor what caused the Civil War. She gave an unclear word-salad response.

“I mean, I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run. The freedoms and what people could and couldn’t do,” she said.

“I think it always comes down to the role of government and what the rights of the people are,” Haley continued. “I will always stand by the fact that I think government was intended to secure the rights and freedoms of the people. It was never meant to be all things to all people,” she said.

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KEYWORDS: civilwar; democrat; haley; plant; poorbaby; rinotrump; trumphaley2024
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Whoever it was, he did good.


21 posted on 12/28/2023 9:27:20 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yes, if you are a Republican taking questions there will be Democrat plants and if you are a Democrat taking questions, there will be Republican plants.

Deal with that reality and learn to answer questions.


22 posted on 12/28/2023 9:27:43 AM PST by Round Earther
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To: Trump20162020

Logical person would have turned to the idiot who asked this and asked...is the end of the Civil War or the history to it....a top 1,000 priority to you?

The war ended 158 years ago....Republican leadership ensured the end. Blood from the northern states ensured the end.
Republican leadership ensured the slavery question ended forever. If you still linger in some 1860 mentality...I feel sorry for you and your kin-folks.


23 posted on 12/28/2023 9:28:53 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Kazan

The Deep State likes their whores stupid and obedient.


24 posted on 12/28/2023 9:29:04 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What does the CW have to do with anything?


25 posted on 12/28/2023 9:33:09 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: Alberta's Child
the Republican Party was founded in 1854 on an anti-slavery political platform.

It's hard to grasp the stupidity of the Republican party. Here they have a founding issue that could define the party and it's policies, and instead they have totally mishandled it for nearly 170 years. This idiot Haley is just the latest example of a Performance Clown, put in front of voters by donors and the Murdock's. I hope her answer hangs around her neck like an anchor.

26 posted on 12/28/2023 9:34:55 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

The GOP Establishment have been stuck on stupid for a long time

See Jeb! Bush


27 posted on 12/28/2023 9:36:28 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

The worst part is that they learn nothing. If it weren’t for desperate, largely ill-informed voters looking for an alternative to pure Marxism, the Republican Party would be a debating society limited to small stages at non-consequential think tanks.


28 posted on 12/28/2023 9:40:28 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

She took the bait from some schlub off the street. What will happen when she’s baited by China or Russia or Iran?


29 posted on 12/28/2023 9:42:38 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: JonPreston; dfwgator

Their (GOP Establishment) role is to play The Washington Generals to the Democrats’ Harlem Globetrotters

To give the illusion of opposition when it’s just a rigged game

Makes the voters believe that they actually have “a choice”

John McCain was all against Obamacare.....until he voted to keep it going and the mask was off (as expected)


30 posted on 12/28/2023 9:48:24 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Civil War was about secession.
Secession was about slavery.


31 posted on 12/28/2023 9:52:37 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And people said Trump was wrong to label Nimrata as a bird brain...


32 posted on 12/28/2023 10:03:50 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: ChicagoConservative27

She was hacked I tell ya.


33 posted on 12/28/2023 10:05:50 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: albie
"I think it was a plant as well. I’m no Haley fan but to whine that she didn’t mention slavery is race baiting imo."

Fighting to end slavery didn't become an issue until later in the war. If it had been an issue from the beginning, it wouldn't have taken Lincoln until 1863 to authorize the formation of the first two black regiments in the north, the 54th and 55th Massachusetts Regiments. Yes, there were contraband regiments organized in the South using freed slaves. The 54th and 55th consisted mostly of free men, who had been born in the North. But some of the men who joined those two units were escaped slaves, and they had to lie, and claim they were free, when they took the oath to enlist.

If you asked the men in uniform why they were fighting back then, the Union men would say "to hold the Union together." The Confederate men would say: "States' Rights."

The following letter was widely published in several of the newspapers of New York State in late 1864. It was discovered in the 10/15/1864 issue of the Poughkeepsie Telegraph:

A Union Soldier's Letter

We have been favored by an old resident of Mabbettsville, in this county with the following interesting letter written to him by a nephew in the army, dated Morris Island, S.C., September 24, 1864:

Dear Uncle:--Your good advice I will try and follow. I tell you, George B. McClellan is the only man, that can carry the old ship of State safely through; already we are drifting near the rock that will submerge the noble ship, and we need a man at the helm that will take her out into the broad ocean and guide her toward and into the port of Peace. I say there is too much negro about this matter; only look at the thousands of valuable lives that have been sacrificed for the black man, but my opinion is the South are not fighting for slavery now, but for their honor; but the present administration are continually harping on the negro. They say we are determined to break the bonds of every slave--or disunion God forbid I should ever have those feelings. No, no. The Union must and shall be preserved. Let the negro go. The white man must rule and reign.

The noble and tried patriot to-day stands before the American people for the high position of President of these United States. His enemies will ask you what he has ever done to entitle him to occupy the presidential chair? He has done much. Why did he not do more? Simply because he was never supported by the Administration as he should have been; troops were withheld from him, when he called loudly for them. The great secret was, he was too popular with the people and soldier. The Republicans were afraid of him. But thank God he is as much beloved to-day as ever.

The soldiers love him, and when their votes are counted you will find we will roll-up such a majority for General George B. McClellan that will astonish the country. He is our choice, and if you could have witnessed as I did the scene that transpired when he was relieved from command, it would have made your heart (though it were adament) melt to see the tears trickle down the cheek of the war worn veteran and the raw recruit when the news reached them, but I trust the day of deliverance is at hand.

Dear Uncle, though you may have never engaged in politics before in your life, I implore you to put your shoulder to the wheel, and every chance you have don't neglect the opportunity of urging the claim of Little Mac upon your friends. Please tell them to stand by him. I hope Old Duchess [county] will roll up a large majority for him. I must close as it is near 10 o'clock at night. Please write me a few lines. Your nephew,

Edwin A. Hoag.

34 posted on 12/28/2023 10:17:07 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: cgbg
"Correspondence from Union troops was very clear what they believed they were fighting for: 'Preserve the Union'."

Exactly. See the 1864 letter I posted at #34 on this thread.

35 posted on 12/28/2023 10:18:33 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: markoman
"It doesn’t matter if someone is a plant or not, you can either answer the question or you can’t."

I don't care for Nikki Haley one bit, but there are many reasons given as to why the war started. Historians have been arguing about them for decades, and will continue to do so. No matter what answer she gave, the media would have attacked her, unless she'd said slavery. Slavery wasn't the initial reason the war started, although the left would like it to have been. They will push that claim, so they can label someone a racist, when they don't answer that question, the way they demand they should.

36 posted on 12/28/2023 10:25:43 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: bray
What does the CW have to do with anything?

You would be surprised at how much the civil war still affects our lives. Roe v Wade was a consequence of the civil war. Gay marriage was another. Banning prayer in Schools was another. Anchor babies is another.

All these things were consequences of the civil war.

37 posted on 12/28/2023 10:27:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: JSM_Liberty

Your comment may be the correct answer to a Political Science final exam question.

The problem is that the troops who actually fought on the ground could not care less about slavery or the “black issue”.

If Lincoln had said in 1861 “we are fighting a war to end slavery” he would have had to raise an army to kidnap civilians to fight the war.


38 posted on 12/28/2023 10:27:02 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: pepsionice
"Republican leadership"

We sure could use some of that in Congress these days.

39 posted on 12/28/2023 10:27:03 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: markoman

“I’ve never understood this argument.”

It’s a can’t win question like, “Do you only beat your wife on Tuesdays.” And there is no answer to that question that can’t be manipulated.

Liberals from the MSM get “what’s your favorite color,” while conservatives get unanswerable questions just to dirty them in the eyes of the voters. And if the liberals fear you enough, they start a smear campaign like the one they have done on Trump for the last eight years at least with delving into his private life and going after his family without anything but opinions. That’s how liberal politics is done. The art of misdirection. Read Alinsky.

wy69


40 posted on 12/28/2023 10:29:43 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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