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Mechanical issue prevents HMS Queen Elizabeth from sailing on NATO exercise
Navy Lookout ^ | 2/3/2024 | Navy Lookout

Posted on 02/04/2024 7:17:05 AM PST by leopud

From: Navy Lookout - Independent Royal Navy news and analysis 2/3/2024 During last-minute checks ahead of sailing for NATO exercise Steadfast Defender, it has been discovered that HMS Queen Elizabeth has a significant issue with her starboard propeller shaft. The ship will not sail on 4th February as planned and instead, HMS Prince of Wales will be readied to replace her.

The RN has instituted additional checks on the aircraft carrier’s shaft lines as a result of the painful lessons learned from past experience with HMS Prince of Wales. In the course of an inspection, concerns have arisen around one of the couplings on the starboard shaft. It should be noted that this is not the same problem that afflicted HMS Prince of Wales. Although the ship remains in class (ie. technically seaworthy), it has been decided as a sensible precaution, to withdraw her from the exercise until the issue can be thoroughly investigated and remedied. The Fleet Commander said: “Routine pre-sailing checks yesterday identified an issue with a coupling on HMS Queen Elizabeth’s starboard propeller shaft. As such, the ship will not sail on Sunday. HMS Prince of Wales will take the place of HMS Queen Elizabeth on NATO duties and will set sail for Exercise Steadfast Defender as soon as possible.“ Demonstrating the value of having two aircraft carriers, at very short notice the ship’s company of HMS Prince of Wales have been told to prepare to sail. This process will probably take a week or so and will involve rapidly accelerating existing maintenance tasks, the transfer of equipment from her sister as well as storing and fuelling ship. HMS Prince of Wales was due to take over as flagship from her sister later this year but will now have to work up much more rapidly than planned as she has yet to embark more than a couple of jets or a full air group. 2024 continues to be difficult for the RN but being able to adapt and overcome is a core value of the service.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War
KEYWORDS: europe; nato; navy; on; royalnavy; terror; war; waronterror
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To: EEGator
Yemen has greater operational effectiveness than does the UK.

They've got us in a pickle as well. Cheap drones are changing the game of warfare faster than we can counteract. We'd better figure out something fast.

21 posted on 02/04/2024 8:36:09 AM PST by Drew68 (Never forget that every person responsible for the nation's COVID policies totally got away with it.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

probably, have to change the oil in the bearing sumps, clean the coffee grounds away from the screws. Warm up the Main Engine lube oil, engage the jacking gear, should be able to rotate the shaft over once every 5 minutes. JMO


22 posted on 02/04/2024 8:37:34 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

yea, as a former MM3 aboard the USS Guam LPH-9, I would think one of the shaft bearings is wiped, or misaligned. the shaft coupling would have never left production if it had issues.


23 posted on 02/04/2024 8:55:24 AM PST by davidb56
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To: leopud
Thank god for our valiant allies provinces.

The unwillingness of NATO members to arm themselves indicate that they are unwilling participants in the American Empire. I don't blame them a bit.

24 posted on 02/04/2024 9:03:28 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: EEGator

You mean they have 3 dinghies, not two like us.


25 posted on 02/04/2024 9:43:02 AM PST by crazycat
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To: leopud
The RN has instituted additional checks on the aircraft carrier’s shaft lines as a result of the painful lessons learned from past experience with HMS Prince of Wales

Any Brit sailor will tell you that you have to work the shaft. Run helps.

26 posted on 02/04/2024 9:50:15 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Next week on The Bickersons... )
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To: Starboard

The Sun never sets on…


27 posted on 02/04/2024 10:15:32 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Gen.Blather

Well stated!

Totally agree!


28 posted on 02/04/2024 10:26:16 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: Gen.Blather

The U.K. meets the NATO goal.

United Kingdom 2.07%
Latvia 2.27%
Hungary 2.43%
Romania 2.44%
Finland 2.45%
Lithuania 2.54%
Estonia 2.73%
Greece 3.01%
United States 3.49%
Poland 3.9%


29 posted on 02/04/2024 10:40:26 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Drew68

You know we won’t though.
Pain is necessary for change.

Large entities are reactive, not proactive.


30 posted on 02/04/2024 10:55:25 AM PST by EEGator
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To: leopud

Complex systems breakdown. Welcome to the third world. Gradually, then suddenly.


31 posted on 02/04/2024 11:08:02 AM PST by JZelle
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To: EEGator

...Londonistan Emirate.


32 posted on 02/04/2024 11:21:26 AM PST by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: JZelle

https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/


33 posted on 02/04/2024 11:34:54 AM PST by EEGator
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To: trotskylvalia

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever.”


34 posted on 02/04/2024 11:36:42 AM PST by EEGator
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To: leopud

Bent shaft doesn’t bode well.


35 posted on 02/04/2024 11:38:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gen.Blather
--- "The UK, like other European powers has been funding its socialist policies off the military budget for a very long time. This is why they never meet their agreed NATO spending target of 2 percent. And, why they can’t."

Agreed, and thanks for the clear-headed summary.

My wife and I lived had legal residency in Germany before her retirement and our return to the states. I have worked in many nations in Europe, and attest that your view is correct. The aim of the European socialists in all their seeming flavors is one thing: provide welfare to an many as possible to assure votes for themselves, and rely therefore on the US as the "world policeman."

This is why so many of the European "forces" are withered, and many face the same recruitment problems now which afflict the American Leftists' dream of a "tranny, woke and perverse, effeminate" military. In which so many no longer wish to serve voluntarily.

One minor correction: we aren't affording it either, as the rapidly growing national debt testifies. "Liberalism" has run its course, and spent itself -- in the US as in Europe -- in indebted servitude.

Something's going to stop, because it can't go on. Period.

Best wishes.

36 posted on 02/04/2024 12:11:06 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: ansel12; All

“The U.K. meets the NATO goal.”


That’s the point !

The UK actually meets the supposed goal, and it is still a shambles.


37 posted on 02/04/2024 2:48:27 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

It wasn’t the point, it was a fact correction, settle down.


38 posted on 02/04/2024 2:55:51 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12; All

Some artificial spending number <> actual military capability.

It may be necessary, but not sufficient.

Look at Poland.

They are spending big, but on high tech gold plated toys like F35 and Abrams.

The lesson form the Counteroffensive is they should be buying artillery guns, artillery shells, landmines, entrenching equipment and drones.

But the MIC isn’t interested in high volume, low margin weapons, those get made in gov’t owned factories.

The MIC wants complex high cost low volume gold plated weapon, which have much more scope for bribes, payoffs and ripoffs for the elite.


39 posted on 02/04/2024 3:45:29 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

See post 38, “it was a fact correction, settle down.”.


40 posted on 02/04/2024 3:47:47 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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