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NATO Leader Blasts Trump’s Suggestion He Would Encourage Russian Invasion of U.S. Allies
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Posted on 02/11/2024 11:15:28 AM PST by Brilliant

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To: Brilliant

funny, it dint cause any problems years ago when he actually made the statement...


41 posted on 02/11/2024 12:36:59 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Don’t disagree. He gave his opponents ammunition to try to paint him as “dangerous.”

However, Trump - and his allies - can get counter this by now saying “No, I don’t really want our allies invaded. But if I hadn’t said that, we wouldn’t be talking about their lack of paying their owed dues, would we? You would have just ignored the issue again. They are making themselves vulnerable by not paying their dues. Not me and whatever you think of my comments.”


42 posted on 02/11/2024 12:41:22 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Brilliant
Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022 and intense fighting continues.

Anything special happen before that? Something involving a woman named Victoria, something named Lindsay and McCain? Perhaps a fellow named Damon Wilson, president/CEO of the NED who lives with his husband in DC?

43 posted on 02/11/2024 12:41:53 PM PST by Pollard (Hi)
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To: BobL

Check


44 posted on 02/11/2024 12:42:30 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: CA Conservative

It does lower the ceiling of potential maximum support, yes. Especially given the press will exploit it - they were handed ammunition they didn’t even have to fabricate.


45 posted on 02/11/2024 12:42:44 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Cobra64

Yep I dont get why the OMG OMG what did Trump say..he’s been saying this since 2015 its not new


46 posted on 02/11/2024 12:45:27 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Nateman
"The United States could have been a big neutral Continent far away from competing powers but our own politicians couldn’t wait for their own opportunity to play Empire Builder. So they added an Income tax to pay for their fancy war machines and the rest has been downhill ever since."

So true your statement.

From America's greatest President (1796)...

"Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people, under an efficient government, the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.

Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice?"

47 posted on 02/11/2024 12:57:31 PM PST by CapnJack ( )
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To: Nateman

Once we gained the Philippines and Hawaii after the Spanish-American War, we had to expand our Pacific Fleet, at the expense of our Atlantic Fleet, thereby making us dependent on The Royal Navy, and tied to Britain.


48 posted on 02/11/2024 12:59:21 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Brilliant

The mutuality of a NATO Alliance has gradually morphed over the decades into the singularity of a NATO Reliance with US’ wealthy EU partners relying on the US to do all the heavy lifting, militarily, monetarily, providing advanced intelligence and weaponry for their land war threats while they are useless to us in defense of our homeland which will come in the way of a high tech air and missile attack, not a land war. As such, the treaty needs to be amended with member states required to form the joint standing military they have been pretending they want to institute for ages to defend Europe by a date certain and immediately required to up their countries’ defense spending to 2% of GDP. Barring that, we should leave the Reliance. We don’t need to be paying child support for someone else’s baby while we are trying to raise our own.


49 posted on 02/11/2024 1:13:43 PM PST by chuckee
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To: Pollard
Anything special happen before that?

Yes, Putin seized and annexed Crimea in 2014 while Obama and the West did nothing. Then Putin started a separatist war in Ukraine's south-east.

50 posted on 02/11/2024 1:47:41 PM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: CapnJack
"The United States could have been a big neutral Continent far away from competing powers but our own politicians couldn’t wait for their own opportunity to play Empire Builder.

So true your statement.

From America's greatest President (1796).

US in 1796 had a great ocean separating us from the rest of the world and even then we needed to build a navy to fight the Barbary pirates.

Isolationism in the US before WW2 was a strong movement but clearly wrong.


51 posted on 02/11/2024 2:01:59 PM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I agree. They were in a circular firing squad. I wish he thought about these things. I think the major reason we’ve suffered election losses is because too many of us are concerned with patting Trump on the back foreverything he says or does, even when we know it’ll be a self inflicted wound that takes him off a winning message. Our whole goal should be getting him reelected & making sure he runs a disciplined campaign. Biden was lost and was literally just pooing his diaper on a public stage, it was getting coverage- and now Trump lobs a grenade & we are talking about this idiocy. Main political rule: first, do yourself no harm 🫣


52 posted on 02/11/2024 2:05:26 PM PST by redheadedshannon
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To: dfwgator
Yes, socialism works when you don’t have to pay for your own defense.

It doesn't work then either, but you have more of other people's money to spend for awhile. Gives parasitic socialist 'leaders' (and they are all parasitic by definition) more time to try to convince everyone they 'got socialism to work' - all while hiding the fact that they've been accumulating tremendous public debt to sustain their 'free' programs.

53 posted on 02/11/2024 3:04:27 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: amnestynone

Exactly.


54 posted on 02/11/2024 3:20:04 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: TornadoAlley3

The Trump administration is the only one in decades that has NOT gotten us into wars.


55 posted on 02/11/2024 3:29:41 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: tlozo

And now we have miltary units scattered around the world in probably 75+ countries ... for what purpose?

The CIA constantly gets us in to conflicts meddeling around with governments in other countries.

And where has it got us?

We have so many troubles at home and we still give out hundreds of billions around the world ... money we don’t have.


56 posted on 02/11/2024 5:06:38 PM PST by CapnJack ( )
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To: Brilliant

Anyone who has observed Donald Trump very long knows how this ends: To the benefit of the US, one way or the other. It will either make NATO stronger or expose it as a paper tiger. If the latter, better to know it sooner than later.


57 posted on 02/11/2024 8:43:42 PM PST by Paraclete
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To: Brilliant

I’m pretty sure it was a tongue in cheek comment.


58 posted on 02/11/2024 8:45:18 PM PST by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: Nateman

Our own politicians are undoubtedly handed many $$$ by the munitions makers, foreign bigwigs, etc. . Otherwise how do candidates with law or business degrees get elected when they have perhaps a million or two in the banks and leave congress as multimillionaires. Just look at Joe Biden’s huge house in Delaware, worth millions. He had it as a congressman.

Nice thing about Trump is that he already had the billions when elected, making him unbribable. Can’t have that!!!!


59 posted on 02/11/2024 8:53:24 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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