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We Don’t Want a Border Deal-We want deportations
Frontpagemagazine ^ | February 13, 2024 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 02/13/2024 6:25:04 AM PST by SJackson

Maybe Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is playing 5D chess and everyone else is simply picking their noses. And maybe picking Oklahoma Senator James Lankford to negotiate on behalf of Republicans was a stroke of genius – he was just reelected in 2022, so any anger he inspires will likely dissipate before he faces voters again. And just maybe McConnell knew that any deal would be unacceptable to Republicans because Democrats want open borders, so he set up this scenario so he could claim to have tried, then will separate out the foreign aid part, which is all he really cares about. Maybe. But I don’t care. A message needs to be sent here that we, the people, do not want a “deal” on the border, we want a border. A border that is vigorously enforced, and we want a government that deports everyone here illegally. And we want it done quickly.

Expect Democrats to start whining about how they “gave up” the idea of amnesty and citizenship for the illegal aliens already here is some sort of “compromise.” But they didn’t. Citizenship is their ultimate goal, and as long as the illegals are here, it’s still on the table for the future.

But their immediate need is to flood the zone for federal aid distribution and Congressional district redrawing purposes.

See, thanks to Democrats, immigrants count in the census, and their status – either being here illegally or legally – has no impact on what our government does with those numbers. Federal aid to cities and states is disbursed by population, not citizen population, so more illegals means more money; it means states get to gerrymander differently to protect Democrat congressional seats. These people are evil, not stupid.

This bill is an embarrassment to anyone interested in securing our border.

Democrats, after years of insisting there was no crisis at the border, that it was secure and Republicans were simply fearmongering on the issue, have now switched to, “If you want a secure border, this bill creates one.” If the second statement is true, the first one can’t be. If the first statements were true, the second one is a lie.

Of course, we know Democrats have been lying all along; they have no interest in a secure border because an open one serves their purposes. So, they lie about everything.

Democrats have to lie because the truth does them no favors. “Illegal aliens commit fewer crimes than Americans do.” That’s an easy claim to make because Democrats forbid the collection of data to prove it in states they control and on the federal level. That it can’t be proven isn’t what matters, that it can’t be disproven is all that does.

They do this everywhere. “Crime is actually down,” is another one of their lies. Violent crime is up, as is assault and sex crimes. What’s “down” is property crimes and theft, largely because there’s no point in reporting them since liberal prosecutors won’t prosecute the criminals. It’s not like the crimes aren’t happening, it’s that people are being conditioned by Soros-funded prosecutors to not bother calling the cops anymore unless someone is dead, sexually assaulted or beaten. It’s like if you killed all the sick people, then threw yourself a parade for having such a healthy population.

Most of what Democrats say is wildly dishonest, but few lies are greater than what they say about the border.

This bill, they insist, will require the President to shut down the border if they catch 5,000 illegals, on average, for 7 days.

First, would you trust this administration with accurately counting and reporting those numbers? Second, this provision, which is still incredibly weak, can be waived by the President in case of an “emergency.” What constitutes an emergency is open to anything a President thinks it to be – like, say, a bunch of illegal aliens crashing to border. Yes, it’s that stupid.

It also creates a new “right” for illegals to get lawyers, and uses our tax money (actually our great grandkids’ credit cards, because our tax money is already spent) to pay for it. We pay for their lawyers, those liberal lawyers donate to Democrats, Democrats keep funding lawyers for illegals…lather, rinse, repeat – the circle of life in DC.

To hell with all of these people. It needs to be made clear that selling us out will not be tolerated. A bill without any deportation is unacceptable, in fact, only a bill with only deportation and massive fines for anyone who hires them before they’re found is all we’ll accept. The only funding should be for 100,000 (temporary, but for as long as it takes) deputy ICE agents to identify illegals to ICE itself and for flights out of the country. Where they want to go does not matter, just out of here. Let where they land deal with the rest.

It also needs to eliminate funding for any state that allows illegals to collect any welfare benefits that receive federal tax dollars. States can do what they want with their money, they don’t get the same ability with federal money.

And end birthright citizenship, period. It was never meant to be that way and everyone knows it, kill it now and forever.

Washington, DC, can choke on this bill. In fact, they can choke on every bill. Any and all patience or caring about illegal immigrants is gone, the American people are sick of it and all they lying about it. Get the illegals out, or get the politicians who enable it or who are even slightly soft on it, out.

I get that this will lead to nothing changing, but better no deal than a counter-productive bad one.

Until then, avoid places that employ illegals, or allow them to congregate in their parking lots looking for under-the-table work. Metaphorically spit on the politicians who protect them, blow off any friends who support them. As a Catholic, join me in stopping giving money to the church to enable them, whatever your church. Be done with it. Anyone, any group or organization “welcoming” illegals is giving you the finger, give it right back. They’re only able to do what they do because we engage in commerce with them. Stop it.

This is a time for choosing, Americans or not? There is no tie, it’s one or the other. Until we can get rid of the welcome mats in our own party, and the enablers in theirs, we have to enforce the line that needs to be drawn the best way we can, with our wallets and then our votes.

No dice, no deal; deportations. The time for deals is over, they had their chance and blew it. This isn’t the start of negotiations, it’s the end of them. We’ll see where the American people really are in November. Until then, nothing.


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1 posted on 02/13/2024 6:25:04 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
--- "We Don’t Want a Border Deal-We want deportations"

Second the motion!

2 posted on 02/13/2024 6:27:11 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: SJackson

I want a wall more than deportations. Close second though. Realistically, deportations are irrelevant with an open border.


3 posted on 02/13/2024 6:29:09 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Hmmm. How about both?


4 posted on 02/13/2024 6:30:04 AM PST by lilypad
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To: lilypad

Maybe if the illegals see their asses tossed out they won’t be in such a hurry to cross. Where’s that leave the cartels? That’s another issue.


5 posted on 02/13/2024 6:31:16 AM PST by lilypad
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To: SJackson

“...they had their chance and blew it.”

Too close to the quadrennial national “all the marbles” (except for 2/3 of the Senate) election for a deal with the communists.

Foreign war aid has been handled way too nonchalantly and seems now to be too unpopular with the voting public to pass without a “deal” that is now impossible.

So Israel and Ukraine had better sue for peace.


6 posted on 02/13/2024 6:35:01 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: SJackson

Exactly. Closing the border is the first step. Removing benefits of all kinds is second because people will deport themselves without all those freebies, then finish the wall.

Deport the ones who did not self deport. Deport all who are in gangs and committing felonies. There is a lot to do.

We don’t need a lame bill that helps illegals, we need one that helps American citizens.

Change the law of refugees and make that status only under dire circumstances, not financial ones either.


7 posted on 02/13/2024 6:37:28 AM PST by dforest
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To: lilypad

(Maybe if the illegals see their asses tossed out they won’t be in such a hurry to cross.)

That’s exactly what happened when President Eisenhower initiated his government program ‘Operation Wetback’. Tons of Mexicans self deported instead of being rounded up and sent by ship in the Gulf of Mexico/Pacific Ocean deep into southern Mexico.


8 posted on 02/13/2024 6:42:05 AM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“...deportations are irrelevant with an open border...”

Good point PA.

Not a total waste of effort, but close to it.


9 posted on 02/13/2024 6:43:14 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Would Mexico now accept what we’d disgorge?


10 posted on 02/13/2024 6:44:58 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: SJackson; All

Good ideas in the article and in the comments.

Mayorkas is one of the TRAITORS.


11 posted on 02/13/2024 6:45:18 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: SJackson
100% Deportations and complete the wall, only with enhancements.
Something like what Egypt has to keep out those Levantine Arabs.



12 posted on 02/13/2024 6:48:29 AM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: SJackson

I wants bofe.


13 posted on 02/13/2024 6:52:51 AM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: SJackson

1. illegals have 30 days to self-deport. Get out.
2. After 30 days, any illegals found will be forcefully deported, to the location of our choosing.
3. Immediately develop a strict, well controlled guest worker program
4. Self-deportees will be eligible. Those forcefully deported forfeit any guest worker privileges lifetime.
5. effective immediately, anyone who employs illegals are subject to a fine of $5,000 per illegal per day. This includes individuals with day laborers. Repeated offenses will result in loss of any business licenses.
6. Anchor babies are hereby rescinded. Children share the citizenship of their parents.
6. Deportees who return illegally will be tried and sentenced to prison in desert tent camps for no less than five years.


14 posted on 02/13/2024 6:55:35 AM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: SJackson

Hmmmmm. Three years have gone by with virtual silence coming from the Republicans on the border. In fact, many support it being open. That translates to MILLIONS of illegals inside our country today.

Elections coming up in November, so it is time to tell us conservatives what we want to hear so we vote them back in. It works for them.

Prepare for ads promising action to close the border.

I no longer believe them. Same old game.


15 posted on 02/13/2024 7:00:19 AM PST by xenia ( “The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it” George Orwell)
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To: SJackson
We Don’t Want a Border Deal-We want deportations public hangings (including elected officials who sat and did nothing to stop this).
16 posted on 02/13/2024 7:05:16 AM PST by BipolarBob (One flew East and one flew West . . .)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“Building a wall is a red herring”

“The fundamental problem is that anyone can claim asylum with zero proof, which means all of Earth can come to America.”

Elon Musk


17 posted on 02/13/2024 7:14:29 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SJackson

I want the DOJ to prosecute Catholic Charities, The Red Cross, and every other single “NGO” that is assisting millions of illegal migrants to break Federal law.

what a statement that would send


18 posted on 02/13/2024 7:15:50 AM PST by PGR88
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To: cyclotic

“a fine of $5,000 per illegal per day”

Excessive fines are unconstitutional.

A daily fine equal to the applicable hourly minimum wage*8 is something the courts would deem reasonable.

This might be tripled for a party who has been fined prior to the violation.


19 posted on 02/13/2024 7:19:44 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SJackson

In early November, France’s national assembly passed an immigration law proposed by its president, Emmanuel Macron. The law is meant to address the main problem with immigration enforcement in Europe—the category of migrants who in France are called OQTFs. To explain: Angry voters have compelled governments across Europe to tighten laws on labor migration. But governments supposedly cannot tighten laws on political asylum, because those are regulated by the 1951 United Nations Convention on Refugees. This means that virtually every economic migrant picked up in a smuggler boat off the Italian coast (or in one of the rescue boats sent by progressive foundations to ply the waters nearby) claims to be a victim of political persecution seeking asylum. This gives newcomers the right to a lengthy sojourn in Europe while awaiting an asylum hearing. Nowadays most such claims are rejected, but it is expensive and bureaucratically difficult to ship the applicants back to where they came from. The denied applicant is simply dismissed with a written notice that he is required to leave French territory (obligé de quitter le territoire français, or OQTF). He almost never does. Macron’s bill would, among other things, end this charade by restoring the criminal offense of illegally staying in the country, a measure that 82% of French citizens back.

The Macron bill is not particularly robust. It contains a giant loophole inserted at the behest of corporations—permitting the hiring of undocumented migrants for “occupations under pressure.” This may wind up undoing everything the bill achieves, much as the anti-discrimination provisions in the U.S. immigration reform of 1986 ended up promoting rather than controlling migration.

Today Denmark, where financial support for asylum seekers is negligible and where it takes an average of 19 years for a migrant to become a citizen, gets about 2,000 asylum applications in an average year. Germany is expected to get 400,000 by the end of 2023. Denmark is the country on which virtually all European governments have announced they wish to pattern their policies.

https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/germany-growing-desperate/


20 posted on 02/13/2024 7:21:44 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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