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Oral Argument In J6 SCOTUS Case Lays Bare DOJ’s Partisan Lawfare
The Federalist ^ | 04/17/2024 | Margot Cleveland

Posted on 04/17/2024 10:10:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The solicitor general’s argument painted a picture of the Biden administration enlarging or contracting statutory language to serve political purposes.

The Supreme Court heard oral argument Tuesday in a criminal appeal challenging the Biden administration’s use of a catch-all provision in a federal statute focused on the destruction of evidence to charge hundreds of J6 defendants with a 20-year felony. Over the course of the hour-long argument, the government made clear its view that the federal statute at issue, 18 U.S.C. 1512(c)(2), had an expansive reach — other than when Antifa burns a courthouse, a member of Congress pulls a fire alarm, or mostly peaceful protesters delay court or congressional proceedings.

Anyone paying the slightest attention to the Biden administration’s prosecution of J6 protesters and its slap-on-the-wrist coddling of other protesters knows there’s a double standard in play. But the justices’ questioning of the Biden administration during Tuesday’s oral argument in Fischer v. United States forced the government to attempt to justify that disparate treatment.

“[T]here have been many violent protests that have interfered with proceedings,” Justice Thomas opened the questioning of Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar. “Has the government applied this provision to other protests in the past?” the justice queried.

After sidestepping the question, Prelogar replied that she couldn’t give an example of Section 1512(c)(2) being enforced “in a situation where people have violently stormed a building in order to prevent an official proceeding,” because nothing like Jan. 6, 2021, had ever happened before.

Justice Gorsuch then posed several more hypotheticals: “Would a sit-in that disrupts a trial or access to a federal courthouse qualify? Would a heckler in today’s audience qualify, or at the State of the Union address? Would pulling a fire alarm before a vote qualify for 20 years in federal prison?”

Prelogar responded in the negative, saying none of those events would likely qualify because, in the Biden administration’s view, Section 1512(c)(2) does not reach “conduct that has only a minimal effect on official proceedings.”

The text of Section 1512(c), however, does not exempt de minimis interference with official proceedings. Rather, subsection (c) provides: 

(c) Whoever corruptly — 

(1) alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or 

(2) otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so, 

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

So, why would the Biden administration seek to exempt protests or other disturbances that have only a minimal effect on official proceedings from the scope of Section 1512(c)?

Simply put, because the Department of Justice has never used Section 1512(c) in the way it is being used against the J6 protesters.

In charging Fischer, the defendant in the case, as well as hundreds of other individuals involved in the Capitol demonstration on Jan. 6, 2021, the DOJ relies on subsection (2) quoted above, maintaining that subsection, in effect, criminalizes the obstruction, influence, or impeding of an official proceeding, no matter the conduct at issue.

That reading of Section 1512(c)(2) conflicts with the DOJ’s historical interpretation of subsection (2), which limited prosecutions to situations where the defendant had interfered with evidence that would be used in an official proceeding. To explain away the lack of prior prosecutions of protesters under Section 1512(c)(2), the Biden administration needed to make the statute about only non-minimal interferences.

Prelogar also argued that prosecutions under Section 1512(c)(2) were rare because the government lacked evidence in most cases to show the protester intended to impede a specific proceeding.

“Maybe you’re protesting a branch of government, you’re outside this court, but you don’t have this specific argument in mind,” that would not be a violation of Section 1512(c)(2), according to Prelogar. The solicitor general also stressed the need for the government to show a “nexus” between the protest and the official proceedings to prosecute under the statute at issue.

Prelogar’s argument to the court seemed to serve a dual purpose: to placate the court’s concerns that the government’s reading of Section 1512(c)(2) is overbroad and to convince the justices that the DOJ applies the statute uniformly.

Judging by the questions and responses from the bench, a majority of the justices remained unconvinced — as they should be. Far from establishing that the DOJ enforces Section 1512(c)(2) uniformly, the solicitor general’s argument painted a picture of the Biden administration enlarging or contracting the statutory language to serve political purposes.

From Tuesday’s argument, it appears unlikely a majority of the court will acquiesce in the Biden administration’s reading of Section 1512(c)(2) as creating an independent obstruction of official proceedings felony. Rather, the questioning from a majority of the justices suggests the Supreme Court will hold that subsection (2) only criminalizes conduct that impairs evidence for use in an official proceeding — which is the better reading of the statute.


Margot Cleveland is an investigative journalist and legal analyst and serves as The Federalist’s senior legal correspondent. Margot’s work has been published at The Wall Street Journal, The American Spectator, the New Criterion, National Review Online, Townhall.com, the Daily Signal, USA Today, and the Detroit Free Press.

She is also a regular guest on nationally syndicated radio programs and on Fox News, Fox Business, and Newsmax. Cleveland is a lawyer and a graduate of the Notre Dame Law School, where she earned the Hoynes Prize—the law school’s highest honor. She later served for nearly 25 years as a permanent law clerk for a federal appellate judge on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals.

Cleveland is a former full-time university faculty member and now teaches as an adjunct from time to time. Cleveland is also of counsel for the New Civil Liberties Alliance.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jacksmith; jan6; lawfare; supremecourt

1 posted on 04/17/2024 10:10:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Depending on the politics — $50 fine for the anti-Kavanaugh protestors and 20 years for the Trump supporters.

Hope SCOTUS introduces some sanity to this.


2 posted on 04/17/2024 10:16:02 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: SeekAndFind

Free all Biden regime political prisoners.


3 posted on 04/17/2024 10:23:33 AM PDT by Signalman
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Biden’s Solicitor General’s argument to the court seemed to serve a dual purpose:
<><>to placate the court’s concerns that the govt’s reading of Section 1512(c)(2) is overbroad
<><>and to convince the justices that the DOJ applies the statute uniformly.

Yet, judging by the questions and responses from the bench, a majority of the justices remained unconvinced.

Far from establishing that the Biden DOJ enforces Section 1512(c)(2) uniformly,
<><>his solicitor general’s argument painted a far different picture
<><>that the Biden admin acted solely in its own interests
<><>that it enlarged or contracted statutory language to serve its political purposes of the moment.


4 posted on 04/17/2024 10:26:54 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Section 1512(d)(2) should be declared unconstitutional, as it is overly broad to the point that it interferes with First Amendment guarantees. A reasonable person would not know if their action is unlawful under this statute.


5 posted on 04/17/2024 10:43:51 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this is the guy that was doing the arguments about the law being misused in the case of the J6 defendants? If so then I can say that he did a terrible job. It was the justices themselves that brought up the good arguments.


6 posted on 04/17/2024 11:18:35 AM PDT by Revel
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To: SeekAndFind

Sotomayer and Kagan seemed to be thinking that Congress passed a law with the intent to be as broad as possible and to anything which caused annoyance in regards a legislative session, hearing, or task.


7 posted on 04/17/2024 11:37:59 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Revel

The Solicitor General is the Federal Government’s advocate. He was saying that it was appropriate to use the law that way in regards the J6 defendants.


8 posted on 04/17/2024 11:40:02 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

It would be good, to have the Supreme Court rule in a way that frees most of the J6 Protesters.

It would also be good for the DOJ to get slapped down to size for lawfare.


9 posted on 04/17/2024 12:51:22 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: SeekAndFind

They noticed it was a scam


10 posted on 04/17/2024 12:58:29 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: lepton

Go listen. He was not well prepared to back up his arguments. He missed the ball the entire time. He was tripping all over himself. He was trying to argue from a purely intellectual level without backing anything up with real life examples. Luckily the justices ended up doing that for him later in the proceedings. This is not the kind of lawyer you would want unless you wanted to lose.

Vivafrei covered it live on Rumble. Go listen.


11 posted on 04/17/2024 1:44:39 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

His podcast was on my list for tonight - but that’s still not responsive to what I posted.

The article is about the Solicitor General’s comments. I clarified who the Solicitor General is, and what side he is on. The Solicitor General is not the guy that was doing the arguments about the law being misused in the case of the J6 defendants.


12 posted on 04/17/2024 2:13:26 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Good to know. It is very difficult to figure out who people are when listening to the USSC arguments. My knowledge on who is involved is extremely limited. But I felt very frustrated about the lawyer making the arguments. Viva was as well. I actually said to myself before Viva “why do you need C1 if C2 covers everything”. It was so obvious an argument. But the lawyer was not making it.


13 posted on 04/17/2024 2:45:45 PM PDT by Revel
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