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To: Steven Tyler
Jeffrey Sachs: Biden Has DESTROYED Ukraine, More Funding Would Be INSANE

The longer it continues, the less there will be of Ukraine.

➡️Russia will capture more territory.

➡️Russia will capture Odessa, Kiev.

➡️It was about NATO enlargement, where the Russians said, no NATO on our borders.

➡️Americans who were following this, like our CIA director Bill Burns, who was then the US ambassador to Russia in 2008, said, this is crazy. No way.

➡️The entire Russian political class is against this.

➡️But Biden and Obama and Hillary Clinton and Victoria Nuland, Jake Sullivan, Tony Blinken, they just barged ahead. They've wrecked everything.

That's our American foreign policy.

That's when this war started.

This war didn't start in February 2022.

It started in February 2014.

It started with Nuland.

It started with Blinken.

It started with Sullivan.

It started with Biden, who was a key person in that whole thing.

Prof Sachs: Well, first of all, this is purely money down the drain. So if they want to rip up another $61 billion, which is not chump change, they seem intent on doing it, but it will mean nothing except more destruction for Ukraine. The fact of the matter is, if you don't listen to the nonsense in our mainstream media but listen to your show and others, people would know that this war has destroyed Ukraine. And the longer it continues, the less there will be of Ukraine. It's very simple, actually.

Because the most basic point of this war, which is that we overthrew a government in Ukraine in 2014 that wanted neutrality so that we could push NATO enlargement, was reckless, stupid, and doomed to fail, and it failed. Now Biden is just trying to hide the failure to get past November, but the failure is seen on the battleground every day. If the Republicans play into this, its unbelievable shame on them.

This is Biden's project. So this is the first starting point. You don't throw good lives after those already dead and good money after bad when you have an absolute failure and disaster on your hands. By the way, this is like every american effort. I'm old enough to remember Vietnam. The same words said about Vietnam. We do this over and over and over again in the US because our so called leaders have no sense and they don't think ahead. So, yes, we have to stop this. But the one thing that we don't do, and it's really a bit of a mystery to me, it's the worst I've seen in my whole lifetime. We don't negotiate. Does Biden call Putin, say, we need to talk? No, that would be weakness. That would be appeasement.

They don't even have the idea that you negotiate anything. And, you know, if you try everything by a military approach and a failed one, and you do it in these proxy wars where it's the people themselves in these countries that are dying on the front lines, and you don't know anything about diplomacy? Well, you make a complete mess of the world. And so the answer is the first thing is the US and Russia should talk to each other because there's a cause of this war and that's NATO enlargement. And by the way, that's no secret and that's not propaganda. Even the secretary general of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg, said that absolutely explicitly, as did the top negotiator for Zelensky, Davyd Arakhamia. This is a war about NATO enlargement.

So why doesn't Biden call up Putin, say, you know what, we gotta stop the war. And that whole NATO enlargement that I was party to going back to the 1990s and to 2014 coup and all that was a bad idea. Figure out how to stop the war, recognize mutual security, and stop the bloodshed and massacres in Ukraine. If Biden were really acting like a president, that's what he would do.

I told them so from the beginning that this would be a complete disaster for Ukraine. People don't want to hear this. They don't understand. They don't know enough about American history. I told them Ukraine is going to be like Afghanistan and boy is it like Afghanistan right now. So they didn't want to hear. That's not right. That's not fair. Professor Sachs. I was telling them facts. I was giving them some good advice. They didn't want to hear that. They wanted to hear about victory, glory, how Ukraine's going to succeed, that great counteroffensive, all the rest, all the baloney. But I said from the beginning that this would be a disaster. I said this is just the latest neocon debacle. And I said explicitly it was going to leave Ukraine like Afghanistan and it was completely avoidable. So that's what I tell them. I'm sorry. Listen, pay attention. Learn something. That's what I say to them.

97 posted on 04/21/2024 8:14:09 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Trump knows how to,negotiate Biden et Al placate with the goal of enriching themselves.

Lost in all of this is Obama letting Hillary set the table with her feckless performance in a leadership role


105 posted on 04/21/2024 8:20:57 AM PDT by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: kabar
Exactly Nuland was behind much of the strategy of Ukraine which is why it wound up being such a disaster.

You have to know that she allowed all the underground goings on from child smuggling to creating deadly virus’ to arms and drug smuggling. Underground in ukraine:


110 posted on 04/21/2024 8:28:38 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT))
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To: kabar

So, Ukraine should just summit to Russia?

I don’t understand you. Russia has no right to own Ukraine than we Mexico.

Explain to me why Ukrainians should not be their own people with their own government, when we have 193 recognized countries in the United Nations, Ukraine being one of them?


125 posted on 04/21/2024 9:08:21 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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