[sourcery]

Ping!

[ffusco]

tin foil hat alert! You forgot to mention that the treasury dept is really an offshore corporation liscensd by the Fed to mint money and collect usary fees known as a sales tax-totally illegal! Also aliens are examining me rectally.

[Torie]

And if you fail to report that you owe taxes, and fail to pay them, you might go to jail, and I certainly hope that you would go to jail. I think these tax protestors and cheats and just selfish bastards who hide behind tendentious and species logic and reasoning to mask the truly noisome nature of their own greed. Even better than jailing them, would be to put them in stocks in the public square, under a sign that says "I am a selfish tax cheat, who wanted you to pay my share of the bill for the general welfare. Nothing harder than a rotton tomato may be thrown at me. Thank you for your cooperation."

[southern rock]

Taxation is Theft

Yes it is. Good article. Bump!

[jrherreid]

Ookay--so, the government should just hold monthly bake sales in order to raise funds?

[Tymesup]

Thanks for the post.

[weegee]

Anarchists claim "Property is theft".

Anyone have other things that have been equated with "theft"?

[ancient_geezer]

You left out an additional argument,

The nation instituted under the Constitution was designed to achieve certain strategic goals, by specific and enumerated powers and tactical means.

The intent and strategic goals:

We the People of the United States, in Order to

• form a more perfect Union,
• establish Justice,
• insure domestic Tranquility,
• provide for the common defense,
• promote the general Welfare, and
• secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,

do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

That document, the "Constitution for the United States of America", is a statement of a will, an intent and law, a trust ratified by the People who ordained and established that nation compounded out of those People's own sovereign rights, properties and wealth as a bequest, that the intended protections and goals be propogated in trust to themselves and their Posterity as beneficiaries.

The means to finance and perpetuate that trust, to achieve the stated goals, was selected to be through levies of taxes in regard to its beneficiaries, the citizens of that nation. The specific means of those levies at the discretion of representative members of those beneficiaries in accord with the provisions of that trust.

REFER: Constitution, Article I. Section 8, clause 1

So long as an individual may partake in the benefits and protections of that trust, one is lawfully bound to its provisions and to its support.

The individual may choose to rescind that birthright and duty laid by that trust through renouncing citizenship and leaving its shores and protection. In that lay the choice of the individual, "the consent of the governed" that renders the requirement of financial support by its beneficiaries through levy of taxes something other than mere "Theft".

[Lil'freeper]

A little bump your way.

[A CA Guy]

They don't care about your feelings or thought on the issue. The Treasury wants the $3.32 you owe in tax for your yearly earnings NOW!

[xzins]

All told, state & fed (fica, ss, & med) took about 20 grand from me this year. I feel robbed. The unaccountability of lost federal cash really bothers me. Liberal claptrap getting some of my cash drives me up the wall, but my fair share goes to fund those clowns, too.

NRST is the only fair tax. But idiots can still misspend even that.

[biblewonk]

Taxation Is Theft

If you really think that, get used to feeling ripped off for the rest of your life unless you are in prison.

[ThJ1800]

Bump for later

[Badray]

I don't have time right now to read through your arguments, but I find it amazing how willing some are to defend this current mess of a tax system because it's 'the law' regardless of how unAmerican the sytem is.

My question is this:

Who is more immoral:

1] the 'tax protester' who doesn't pay, but supports himself and 'takes' nothing from the system or

2] the person who doesn't support himself but lives off the earnings of hard working people who do pay taxes or

3] the government that imposes such a system on it's citizens?

[Tralfaze McWatt]

For me, taxes are considerably less onerous the closer the taxing authority is to the location of my business and home residence. Thus, local taxes are okay, because I believe I can be more of an active and effective participant in the process of deciding how the money is spent. The further a taxing authority gets from from my locale, the more justifiably suspicious I become of any tax collection and disbursement process. Thus, it is important to me that any remote taxing authority, such as the federal government, have clearly defined and limited powers which it is authorized to exercise when using tax money. Otherwise, as far as I'm concerned, waste and tyranny is inevitable. The U.S. constitution was supposed to be the legal framework that codified the state-fed contract that expressly limited the powers of the feds to use tax monies for specific, and limited national public purposes. It is quite apparent today that the Feds have not adhered to either the spirit or letter of the constitutional limitations of federal power. The Feds have been operating outside the express constitutional limitations of Fed power for quite some time now. The situation is getting worse as we speak. For me, as long as the Feds were to have confined themselves to the limited powers expressed in the letter and original spirit of the constitution, it had a morally justifiable right to taxation. Since it has failed to confine itself, the Feds have at least lost any moral authority to taxation. All authority that the Feds have left now is merely a self-defined and legally contrived authority, with associated police powers to collect taxes and disburse according to the whim of the mass media-inspired political class. This is not a good situation, the lack of moral authority for most current Fed activities, and I fear it is only going to get worse with time. Increased federal oppression of dissent from mass-media inspired political correctness is inevitable.

[Eternal_Bear]

Time to decentralize the Federal Government immediately! Trim it back to where it should be to protecting our borders and not interfering in our daily lives. Only commie liberals want more government! Slash taxes to the bone and no conscription either!

[TopQuark]

It is amazing how many people do exactly what you have done: spend an enormous time on reinventing the wheel. They do it in great detail, so that the product resembles a refined though.

Alk this instead of opening a book or two.

I have no clue where you got the arguments for taxation that you proceed to dismantle: most certainly, you have omitted the economic ones given in most economic texts. And the arguments that you do impute to the proponents are misrepresented.

[Dick Bachert]

IF YOU WANT THIS MAN – AND MEN LIKE HIM – TO REMAIN IN CONTROL OF YOUR ECONOMIC AND PERSONAL DESTINY, CONTINUE TO TOLERATE THE CURRENT MARXIST INCOME TAX SYSTEM.

ONE MORE TIME:

IT’S ABOUT P O W E R AND C O N T R O L!!

SIGN THE PETITION AT HTTP://WWW.VOTR.ORG. Then find out how you can do more to end American’s peculiar SPRING MADNESS.

[apochromat]

The trick I used a long time ago was to convince myself that my salary would be that much less if there were no income taxes. No one has been able to disprove this theory to me, probably because I'm sure it allows me to avoid lots of helpless aggravation. :)

[Pistias]

We are morally enjoined to help those in need--the lazy are not in need, they are in need of instruction. Which is, of course, not to say that it is morally justifiable (though it may be) nor prudent (which I am willing to say it is not) to take from one and give to one more in need. But take care not to cut the branch out from under you.