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To: Luis Gonzalez

Let me post Jefferson's words once again, try having someone read them to you if need be.

You have permission to read this and to get help if you can't:

 

the FOUNDING FATHERS UNLEASHED Our Constitution provides the legitimate foundations of this country as a free nation that is of the people and by the people but, we must read beyond it words and read it's authors words and thoughts in order to understand the warnings they have sent through generations to it's application in todays world.


warning...

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
- John Adams, October 11, 1798

warning...

"Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly corrupted that was afterwards restored to virtue?... And without virtue, there can be no political liberty....Will you tell me how to prevent riches from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance, vice and folly?..."

- John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson

The entire argument about sexual behavior is so simple it can be reduced to the following: Should there be any social rules about what sexual activity a human being engages in?

If the answer is no then everyone should just shut up...hetero is okay, cousins are okay, polygamy is okay, bi is okay; gay is okay, 13-year olds are okay, and one or one-hundred-at-a-time are okay, et. al.

However, if a society decides that certain rules about who does whom when and where is functional and perhaps even necessary, all that is left is to decide is WHAT are the rules of sexual behavior and WHO shall make them...simple. Those who follow the 'rules' are then NORMAL and all the rest are PERVERTS... so very, very simple...you decide.

Van & Katherine Jenerette

www.jenerette.com �

242 posted on 04/26/2003 9:22 PM EDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)

190 posted on 06/03/2003 10:57:46 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
"Should there be any social rules about what sexual activity a human being engages in?"

Red herring.

The question is: Does the US Government have the constitutional authority to regulate the sexual preferences of consenting adults who wish to engage in same sex relationships?

And further to that: Has the Federal government (or any government for that matter) been deputized by the Almighty to enforce His rules and regulations here on Earth? Or will the issues of sin be settled by the TRUE SUPREME COURT, one not bound by our Constitution?

One last thing.

If we are to pay attention to the opinions of 18th Century American politicians about the fact that our Constitution was made only for moral and religious people, are we in turn going to apply 18th Century morality and religious concepts to our society in general to see if we fall under their definition of moral and religious people?

Because you, me and nearly everyone alive today will fail miserably.

In the eyes of the Founders, and judged by their standards, we are a society of reprobates, immoral, heathens. And that would be before they even dealt with the issue of homosexuality, which they would most likely see as the natural side-effect to our own debauchery.

192 posted on 06/03/2003 4:08:46 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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