The epic failure of American Catholicism over the last 40-50 years rolled out in all its glory. It's little wonder that Obama is emboldened in his confrontation with the Catholic Church and its bishops. He believes, rightly, that significant numbers of those who self-identify as Catholics have long ago made their peace with the "culture of death".
We evangelicals on the other hand love hearing him speak openly about such things.
The Church should have publicly excommunicated public figures claiming to be Catholic while rejecting Church teachings on moral issues.
Same must be said for the Evangelical churches. Bill Clinton and James Earl Carter come to mind. I’m certain there are many other “Baptists” that should be excommunicated.
If this alienated large swathes of people and they left the Church, all the better. A smaller, purer, stronger Church will always accomplish much greater things than a large, worldly, weak church.
Personally, I believe that all of this emphasis on the ‘Catholic’ vote is aligned to a significant aspect of Obama’s plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVN2MMuiedI&feature=sdig
*Note what a divisive man Obama is with rich/poor, minority/majority, Catholic-in-name-only/practicing Catholic.
Pure Alinsky tactics!
The hysterical left has succeeded in using contraception as a wedge issue, and Rick fell into the trap. I’m waiting for the current 0ccupant to be vetted and held accountable. It’s not happening because we let them frame the debate. Meanwhile, Mitt, like McCain tells us what a fine fellow 0 is.
Unfgortunately, just like Romney, many Catholics tend to be pro-abortion...
That’s because Catholics in the USA are union first.
Even practicing Catholics seldom vote on religious issues. For the most part they vote for who they think is the better candidate.
That being said I think Santorum won among Catholics who attend mass.
The real issue here is that many Catholics have dealt with the Rick Santorums of the world. They were the head altar boy, teacher’s pet types who took their hall monitor job way too seriously. They were the perfect little Catholic with a Lancelot complex. They were very annoying as holier than thou children and still are as presidential candidates.
The Pope needs to get over here and tell Catholics that they cannot be Catholic on a Sunday or when it suits them and then be voting for killing babies and same sex etc.
A memo needs to go out as well to every Catholic church mentioning this and remind most Catholics up in the north to get a grip .
The north east should be the most conservative area in the country but alas most Catholics up there seem to ignore their so called faith.
marshmallow:
So by my count, 43% for Romney vs 31% for Santorum equals 74%. What about the other 26% of Catholic vote. Obviously, the 31% that went for Santorum plus the 26% that went for Newt or Ron Paul means that 57% of the Catholic vote was split among Santorum [Catholic], Newt [Recently received into Full communion in the Catholic Church] and Ron Paul [I have no idea what his religous affiliation is].
So again, when you see statistics like this reported by the media, and in this case any media, CNN, Fox, WSJ, NYT, WashPo, etc, etc, always read more into it as reporters like to report things to shape the story the way they want to. In this case, CNN’s article implies that Romney won all of the “Catholic vote” in Ohio, what he won was a plurality and in political terms a 57% vote against someone is in football terms a “Rear end kicking.”
The Demo-Coms and their demo-comic followers in the media were allowed to obfuscate eugenics which is an integral part of Obama/Romneycare and reduce it into the mourning pill.
There are two issues here. Obama and his Demo-comic followers which includes a CINO (who should be excomminicated period) are preaching eugenics, population control. which is part of the Obamacare package. They are on record and actually say so. I am not going to reference it here but their statements are out there.
The second issue is its constitutionality imposing government position on religious groups. And BTW one graoup has been excluded on the Health care ...the Amish
.Demanding changes of acceptance in core cultural values held by religious groups and advancing eugenics meaning infantacide and condeming seniors to soylent green centers certainly does have a place in the political discussion. Particularly when that is being shoved on religious groups by the Demo-Coms . Especially when they’re ignoring constitutional rights...Two groups late in the last century led in that development the Nazis and the Communists. The Nazis began with smoking then terminating Down Syndrome children and on to mentaly defective children and adults.
Where the Santorum campaign failed was to allow the media and the opposition to describe the issue and reduce it into popping a morning pill. Furthurmore in Ohio’s case you had some major market so called “conservative” talk show hosts ridiculing Santorum on this issue not just the dummers on MSM.
Whether unfortunately Santorum decides to shy away from this issue or re-frame it is up to him and his advisors. But he should be encouraged to adjust the focus. One way the bishops can help is use the mechanisms they have to do so...after all they have shut down parishes which retained the latin mass but can’t speakout and act on this despicable movement .
How did he do in Steubenville, OH?
Why would any Catholic vote for Mormon Romney, the flip-flopper and big spender that broke Massachesetts treasury?
Loudly Catholic Santorum loses Ohio Catholics CINOs
And would have us believe the same.......my answer...........no way!
mark
I bet they won’t make such an easy peace with the Angel of Death.
I think that the great strategist, big thinker, and convert to Catholicism Gingrich, is well aware of this Catholic voting problem, and I think that he knows how to get in there and penetrate that wall, and do some political “evangelicalism” of the Catholic vote, getting into their skulls that the conservative movement and the GOP is where they all need to be.
I see a President Gingrich as taking on the Catholic vote as one of his big picture issues to fix during his administration, and I think that when he was finished that we could start counting on a majority of that Catholic vote, going our way.
Gingrich is not just a placeholder, a rino Republican who happens to be Catholic, he is a leader, a problem fixer, a red meat conservative politician who went from the right wing Southern Evangelical denominations to the Catholic church, my guess is that he would like to get his now fellow Catholics voting like his fellow Southern Baptists of his past. Let’s face it Newt is something of a Crusader.
Does Ohio have an open primary? If so, the old urban ethnic union Democrats strike again.