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A European Court Vindicates a Fashion Designer Whose Images Upset Catholics
The Economist ^ | 2/5/18 | Erasmus

Posted on 02/09/2018 4:46:49 PM PST by marshmallow

A court victory for a designer accused of blasphemy

THIS week the European Court of Human Rights handed down a verdict, which law-and-religion pundits will be pondering for years to come. It vindicated Sekmadienis, a company selling the work of Robert Kalinkin, a Lithuanian fashion designer. The seller had been fined for using images of Jesus and the Virgin Mary which Catholics found offensive.

The case refers to a Kalinkin campaign in 2012 which featured a bare-chested young man and a woman, both with halos: the man was sporting jeans and tattoos, and the female figure wore a white dress with a string of beads. The captions consisted of lines such as: “Jesus, what trousers!”, “Dear Mary, what a dress!” and “Jesus, Mary, what are you wearing?”

After receiving some complaints about the images, Lithuania’s State Consumer Protection Agency (SPCA) consulted the bishops of the Catholic church, to which nearly 80% of Lithuanians adhere. This led to Sekmadienis being fined €580 ($723) for, among other things, “encouraging a frivolous attitude towards the ethical values of the Christian faith.”

This week’s ruling by the ECHR, an organ of the 47-nation Council of Europe, found that the company’s freedom of expression had been violated. It accepted that liberty of expression carried certain responsibilities, including a duty not to be “gratuitously offensive or profane” but it considered that the images in question did not fall into that category. It noted that freedom of expression extended to ideas which “offend, shock or disturb”.

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To: HiTech RedNeck

Meanwhile, the guy who put stickers on his car saying things like, “Possess me Jesus,” is morally superior to the girl with a Mary dress?

The key point is what you said-—

“It doesn’t matter.”


21 posted on 02/09/2018 5:54:22 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: Rashputin

Mary’s mother had tats? Well, I swan.


22 posted on 02/09/2018 5:55:25 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: sparklite2

We could understand the stickers more. The best I could say about the clothes would be “confusion.”


23 posted on 02/09/2018 5:56:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I see nothing confusing about the dress in the picture.
It’s actually pretty plain. The court made the right call.


24 posted on 02/09/2018 5:58:44 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: sparklite2

I’d never have pulled the court or government into it. I’m talking at a spiritual level, which neither entity is suited to address.


25 posted on 02/09/2018 6:00:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: sparklite2
This is blasphemy?

No, but …

This is.

26 posted on 02/09/2018 6:15:25 PM PST by CMRosary (Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
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To: CMRosary
Forgive me, Father,
but this made me LOL.

supper

The Vatican expressed outrage at an Obama-era US Department
of State's "living art" representation of Leonardo da Vinci's
The Last Supper
, which featured Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta
but without that annoying Christ.

27 posted on 02/09/2018 6:21:34 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, ok, and we can be sure the European Court of human rights will ensure everyone has rights to anything and everything, except religion that is!

Keep in mind this Court is the same group of high-principled folks who killed Baby Charlie, and similar verdicts. I know it seems different, but here we see religion and life values, a fine line.


28 posted on 02/09/2018 6:23:41 PM PST by Marchmain (free exercise)
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To: Marchmain

This crass sacrilegious merchant isn’t there trying to hush up the priests and preachers. Or murder anybody. I never was too happy about governments going in for matters that the bible assigns to churches. That’ll degrade both government and church.

I do think that churches ought to be preaching about it, heeding the obvious opportunity to state that physical fabrics don’t make anybody holy.


29 posted on 02/09/2018 6:34:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: CMRosary

Also, it’s ungrammatical. “Jeans” is plural, not singular.


30 posted on 02/09/2018 7:02:32 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Also, it’s ungrammatical. “Jeans” is plural, not singular.

Jean is the material; jeans are the pants made therefrom. But I should think that Christians of any denomination would be offended by that image, not merely Catholics.

31 posted on 02/09/2018 7:15:49 PM PST by CMRosary (Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
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To: CMRosary

The tattoos offend me.

Jesus said to take care of your body. Tattoos don’t do that in my opinion.


32 posted on 02/09/2018 7:36:15 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sparklite2

Right on! Both pictures are actually quite attractive. I wouldn’t be shocked to see those up in a church aiming at young, hip Catholics.


33 posted on 02/09/2018 8:11:59 PM PST by mairdie
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To: Salvation
The tattoos offend me.

I find them off-putting, at best. It’s an interesting, if unsurprising, phenomenon, though: What almighty God declared good, mankind presumes to “improve” upon (q.v. Leviticus 19:28), a presumption which calls attention to the person, rather than the Creator—truly a sign of the times.

34 posted on 02/09/2018 9:52:13 PM PST by CMRosary (Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!)
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To: marshmallow

I wonder what the Freedom From Religion Foundation is going to say to Sekmadienis about it.

Or do they only care about the USA.


35 posted on 02/10/2018 7:49:49 AM PST by kevin_in_so_cal (He sold all he owned, and bought the field.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I wrote a song about a redneck Jesus.

Our Puerto Rican deacon gave a sermon on the theme, "Jesus era un ranchero." It's just true. Nazareth was the sticks. Not just the sticks, but the (Jewish) fundamentalist sticks. That's why they went ballistic when Jesus rejected Hebrew nationalism in the synagogue.

36 posted on 02/10/2018 6:32:23 PM PST by Tax-chick (Harvey Weinstein was married to a beautiful model.)
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To: marshmallow
The seller had been fined for using images of Jesus and the Virgin Mary which Catholics found offensive.

Huh?

How is this POSSIBLE, for NO ONE knows what these two LOOKED like!

37 posted on 02/10/2018 7:04:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If you’re a Catholic you’re going to be super sensitive about Mary and not debase her name and fame.

Not the Biblical Mary.

But Rome's 'Mary' has MANY names and titles and is 'famous' for MANY things...


 
 
 
 
 



 

The way it's written:

 
Galatians 4:4-5
But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship.
 
 
 
The way Rome teaches it:
 
Galatians 4:4-5
But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a....
 
Co-Redemptrix, 
Ark of the Covenant,
Beloved daughter of the Father,
Cause of Our Joy,
Cause of our Salvation ,
Comfort of the Afflicted,
Destroyer of Heresy,
Ever-virgin ,
Favoured Daughter of the Father,
Gate of Heaven,
God-bearer,
Health of the Sick,
Help of Christians,
Holy Mary,
Holy Mother of God,
Holy Virgin of Virgins,
House of Gold,
Joy of the Just,
Majesty,
Mirror of Justice,
Morning Star,
Most Holy,
Mother Admirable,
Mother Inviolate,
Mother Most Amiable,
Mother Most Chaste,
Mother Most Pure,
Mother of Christ,
Mother of Divine Grace,
Mother of God,
Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Mercy,
Mother of Orphans,
Mother of Our Creator,
Mother of Our Redeemer,
Mother of Sorrows,
Mother of the Church,
Mother of the Poor,
Mother of the Word,
Mother of the Word Incarnate,
Mother Thrice Admirable,
Mother Undefiled,
Mystical Rose,
Nova Eva (the New Eve),
Our Lady of Compassion,
Our Lady of Confidence,
Our Lady of Victory,
Our Lady, Star of the Sea,
Our Mother of Perpetual Help,
Queen Assumed Into Heaven,
Queen Conceived Without Original Sin,
Queen of All Saints,
Queen of Angels,
Queen of Apostles,
Queen of Confessors,
Queen of Families,
Queen of Heaven,
Queen of Martyrs,
Queen of Patriarchs,
Queen of Peace,
Queen of Prophets,
Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
Queen of Virgins,
Ravisher of Hearts,
Refuge of Sinners,
Seat of Wisdom,
She Who Shows the Way,
Singular Vessel of Devotion,
Spiritual Vessel,
Spouse of the Holy Spirit,
Sovereign Mistress of the Angels, 
Tabernacle of the Lord,
Temple of the Holy Spirit,
Temple of the Most Holy Trinity,
Throne of Wisdom,
Tower of David,
Tower of Ivory,
Treasure House of God's Graces,
Untier of Knots,
Vessel of Honor,
Virgin God-bearer,
Virgin Most Faithful,
Virgin Most Merciful,
Virgin Most Powerful,
Virgin Most Prudent,
Virgin Most Renowned,
Virgin Most Venerable
Virgin of virgins,                           born under the law, to HELP redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship; sooner or later; and not spend TOO much time in Purgatory.
 

 
 
 

38 posted on 02/10/2018 7:08:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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