[DownInFlames]

Nuts

[OKSooner]

Well, they’re populating Milt’s planet for him in advance for when he becomes a Mormon diety. The Planet Milt.

[MMusson]

They marry their dead relatives and ‘save’ them as part of their family. That is why Mormons are so big on genealogy.

And, like any good multi-level marketing program, the more you save under you, the higher up the ladder you go.

[Chickensoup]

You know. It’s really not my business.

[fightin kentuckian]

This poor woman who was victimized by the church because she wanted to do things counter to church teachings.

Now that she’s doing those those things she’s pissed because she wants the church to embrace her new lifestyle, she still wants to be in the church but she’s hurt because the church won’t embrace her.

Now she wants payback and starts badmouthing the church. Sounds a lot what a lot of ex Catholics did in the 90s.

[Dr. Sivana]

I have a cousin who abandoned the Catholicism that she was raised in and became Mormon after marrying one for her second marriage (her first marriage was to the 1st Mate of the Exxon Valdez. The captain was a drunkard.)

Anyway, she’s welcome to do the genealogical research on my mother’s side of the family. Saves us the heavy lifting of filling in ancestry.com. The ceremony is pointless, and is invalid even on the living, as Mormons are not Trinitarian.

They can be excellent allies in certain political battles, and I do not hold it against them that they take care of their own. To the degree that their belief system is compatible with Natural Law, they can be political allies, as we address the differences in other spheres.

[monkeyshine]

Unless there is something abusive going on it just sounds like they send people to take pictures at a cemetery. Doesn’t really sound all that bizarre. What they do afterwards I have no idea.

The Hollywood Forever cemetery hosts holiday parties, food events, and outdoor movie screenings Now that is bizarre.

[nfldgirl]

Assistant “Principle”?

🤦🤦🤦

[Gnome1949]

God gave all his living children FREE WILL. Our choice. Our consequences.

[fightin kentuckian]

A lot of you anti-Mormons have no idea what you’re talking about. You hear lies and misleading propaganda, much like this article, all the time. And you hear it from rabid Mormon haters.

This i like a liberal dimocrat telling people about Republican views and policies, and you take it as fact.

Mormons are in fact Christians and read the Bible and teach the Bible and pray to Jesus Christ and God the Father. And anyone who says different is a damn liar.

If you really, want to know about Mormonism why not have a conversation with those two young men or women the next time they knock on your door or ask a friend you trust who is a Mormon or ask one of the many Mormons on FR. And don’t argue, simply ask questions to clarify what you’ve heard.

[Zuriel]

Classic case of pulling a scripture out of context, and building a doctrine around it.

1 Cor. 15:29 (written 30+ years after Christ’s resurrection) is in the middle of Paul defense of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, using the hypothetical view of if Christ is not risen, then converts of his that had died since, were followers in vain. Therefore, anyone being baptized into Christ, has been “baptized for the dead” Christ and his dead followers, and not for the living Christ (and those asleep in Christ).

Smith was not a martyr, he was a false prophet.

[Mean Daddy]

This is the main reason that they’re a great resource for family genealogy as they’re back tracking and researching your family to baptize.

[Tennessee Nana]

Whats with the multiple Mormon articles ???

[AppyPappy]

I’m struggling to figure out why I should care about this

[Paal Gulli]

I could never figure out why Mormons are willing to spend so much money on collecting, storing and distributing all the genealogy data they do. Come to find out, that’s the reason. They believe a descendant of someone who has dies “lost” can be baptized “by proxy” for their ancestor. But this can’t be done if you don’t know who your ancestors were.

They’re literally recruiting the dead. Which sounds like a demoncrat party campaign slogan.

[Elsie]

Is this yet ANOTHER offshoot of J. Smith's religion, or the 'REAL' one based in SLC?

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 With the Mormons (to be precise, the members of The Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - based in Salt Lake City) intent on being called “Christians” after so many years of eschewing that word, and despite the fact that there are so many fundamental theological differences between Christianity and Mormonism, I often wonder: 

How do members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints feel about calling the members of its various spin-off sects Latter-Day Saints, Christians, or Mormons? Or about those sects calling themselves Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? (There was an earlier campaign by LDS to have journalism style books use the word “Mormon” to refer only to LDS, and not RLDS, FLDS, or other LDS sects).

For a man who bragged about holding things together, Joseph Smith, Jr. doesn’t appear go have done a good job of it during his lifetime. Wycam Clark’s “Pure Church of Christ” spun off in 1831. This trend continued. There were six LDS sects spawned in the 1830s, eight in the 1840s, two in the 1850s, and seven in the 1860s.

Do those responsible for the “Mormons are Christians” campaign consider these denominations to be Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? Surely many of these denominations are much closer to mainstream LDS than LDS is to Christianity. Many stick to Smith’s teachings and old temple endowment ceremonies.

Short Creek Community
Latter Day Church of Christ
Apostolic United Brethren
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness [sic] of Times
Church of the Lamb of God
Church of the New Covenant in Christ
Confederate Nations of Israel
Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
School of the Prophets
Centennial Park
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God
True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
The Church of the Firstborn and the General Assembly of Heaven

Blackmore/Bountiful Community
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ
Order of Enoch
Aaronic Order
Zion’s Order, Inc.
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ (Bullaite)
Community of Christ
Church of Jesus Christ (Toneyite)
Independent RLDS / Restoration Branches
Church of Jesus Christ Restored 1830
Church of Christ (Lion of God Ministry/Clarkite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Zion’s Branch)
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Fettingite) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ at Halley’s Bluff (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Restored) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ “With the Elijah Message” (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Hancock) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Burtite) (Hendrickite)
Church of Israel (Hendrickite)
Church of Christ with the Elijah Message (The Assured Way of the Lord) (Hendrickite)
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Restored Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
Holy Church of Jesus Christ (Strangite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Drewite) (Strangite)
True Church of Jesus Christ Restored (Strangite)
Pentecostal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Whitmerite)

Or these defunct sects:

Pure Church of Christ (Clarkite)
Independent Church (Hotonite)
Church of Christ (Boothite)
Church of Christ (Parrishite)
Alston Church
Church of Christ (Chubbyite)
Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Church of Christ (Pageite)
True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (this one was particularly curious - started by William Law, editor of The Nauvoo Expositor, just one of many sects started in opposition to plural marriage)
The Church of Zion (Godbeite)
United Order Family of Christ
Church of the Potter Christ
Church of the Firstborn (Morrisite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gibsonite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Most High
Church of the Christian Brotherhood
Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion (Rigdonite) Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Primative Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Christ (Aaron Smith)
Church of the Messiah (Adamsite)
Church of Christ (Wrightite)
Church of Christ (Whitmerite)
Church of Christ (Brewsterite)
The Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Congregation of Jehovah’s Presbytery of Zion
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gladdenite)
Independent Latter Day Saints of Nigeria
Independent Latter Day Saints of Ghana
Apostolic Divine Church of Ghana

Are members of those LDS groups “Mormons”? “Latter Day Saints?” “Christians?”

Do the folks in Salt Lake City have a problem with any of those groups, who believe in the restoration of the original church by Joseph Smith, calling themselves Mormons or Saints?

Most of these divisions in the Latter-Day Saint movement occurred over the issue of polygamy or succession of the Prophet. Sects broke off when Joseph Smith was still alive, and when Brigham Young was named prophet, because they didn’t believe in the practice of plural marriage – either publicly, or in some cases when it was practiced in private and denied in public.

Of course, there was the great split between Rocky Mountain Saints and Prairie Saints, when LDS members couldn’t agree on a successor prophet to Smith, Jr., and the church went to Utah, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, and Pennsylvania under Brigham Young, Sidney Rigdon (senior member of the First Presidency), James Strang, Lyman Wight, Alpheus Cutler, William Smith, David Whitmer (a BOM witness), or Joseph Smith III (son of Joseph Smith, Jr.). Almost all of these individuals still has multiple sects in existence that date to an 1844 decision about who should be the next President/Prophet of the church.

The Prairie Saints split into sects over the issue of whether Smith practiced polygamy. Rocky Mountain Saints had many, many spinoff sects after the 1890 Manifesto – groups that still practice plural marriage.

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Thanks to ScoutMaster for all the hard work here!

[wgmalabama]

There is or was a big Mormon mafia on FR. You got kicked if you didn’t support mittens “the magic underwear” for his president run. Could have been here for 10 years but if the 2007/2008 war on mittens you got booted. I believe that is when FR lost lots of its activism and intelligence.

[LadyDoc]

Some were doing this in the early Christian church, and it was condemned.

However, if you believe only the baptized are saved, you worry that your beloved ancestors might not be with you in heaven, so baptizing the dead is a ceremony that lets you help them.

It is a gift of mercy,

We Catholics believe in baptism of desire and praying for the dead. That drives the Baptists crazy too.

I don't agree with the LDS ideas of Jesus and heaven, but baptism of the dead is an act of charity not something bad.

as for being creepy, well all religions are creepy to outsiders, especially when zealots distort what is going on.

[Scrambler Bob]

Alyssa Grenfell, 31, who now works as an assistant principle in Austin,
= = =

I suspect she is a principal.

Unless that is left-over Mormon stuff to be a principle.

(Principal is your ‘pal’)

[MayflowerMadam]

Cults are gonna cult; it’s what they do.

Baptising and/or praying for the dead is hooey. THEY’RE DEAD and currently are dealing with the decisions they made, or didn’t make, in life.