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Abortion activists challenge candidate
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/16/02 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 03/16/2002 1:18:58 PM PST by TheAngryClam

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:39:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

GOP gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon Jr. has promised he will "change the topic" if asked about controversial issues like abortion in the coming campaign, but pro-choice activists defiantly signaled this week that he won't have an easy time of it.


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; billsimon; calgov2002; graydavis
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With friends like Stinson... she claims to be a Republican but endorsed Davis and is trying to make abortion, and by extension, Simon the issue of this campaign. Davis should be the issue. I hate RINOs. Hopefully the rest of the Riordanites don't decide to follow her lead, though I think Parsky already is.

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1 posted on 03/16/2002 1:18:58 PM PST by TheAngryClam
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2 posted on 03/16/2002 1:19:52 PM PST by TheAngryClam
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Michelman warned supporters that with the coming elections, "Roe vs. Wade is hanging by a thread" in critical U.S. Senate races and that the availability of legal abortions is threatened in dozens of states in governor races across the country, including California.

Well then, Katie honey...maybe it's because We the People are getting sick and tired of baby-killing?

3 posted on 03/16/2002 1:37:40 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: TheAngryClam
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4 posted on 03/16/2002 1:39:07 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: TheAngryClam
Kate Michelman, the nation's leading abortion rights activist

Is there a rating system?

5 posted on 03/16/2002 1:53:32 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: TheAngryClam
If I were Bill Simon I would say, "Yes I am pro-life. To be pro-life means standing against any evil instituion that cheapens human life, including abortion. I know this will cost me some votes, but I would rather be right than be governor."
6 posted on 03/16/2002 1:58:41 PM PST by Commander8
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To: TheAngryClam
Calling Stinson a RINO is an insult to RINOs everywhere. This is a disruptor out to drive a wedge in Republican ranks. She is a one-issue person who wants to destroy the party in order to make abortions abundant. An effective tactic. Maybe we should try it in the Democratic ranks ... oh yeah, the press would just ignore us to the same degree they fawn over no-account disruptors on the Left like her.
7 posted on 03/16/2002 2:23:43 PM PST by WOSG
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To: TheAngryClam
BTW, what is this malarkey about Californians being so prochoice that a prolife candidate is unelectable??? polls show that Davis, NARAL and NOW are the extremists on this issue, no Bill Simon.

abortion poll article

ABORTION POLL: Americans Conflicted on Abortion Rights, Restrictions, Los Angeles Times Poll Reveals

More than 25 years after the Supreme Court's landmark Roe v. Wade decision, a Los Angeles Times poll suggests that support for abortion rights may be waning as "Americans adopt a more nuanced view of the circumstances under which abortions should be allowed." The poll surveyed 2,071 Americans -- 986 men and 1,085 women -- from June 8-13 found that only 43% of current survey respondents support Roe v. Wade, down from 46% in 1996 and 56% in 1991. However, the poll also found "continued opposition" to a constitutional ban on the procedure. Although more than 50% of the individuals surveyed believe that abortion should either be illegal in all circumstances or legal only in cases of rape, incest or when a woman's life is in danger, more than two-thirds said that, regardless of their own opinion, the decision to end a pregnancy should be left to a woman and her physician. Further, while 57% of respondents consider abortion an act of murder, more than half that group believe that a woman should have the right to choose an abortion. "Americans, in terms of their own code of morality, may view abortion as murder and may be comfortable with it being illegal, but most Americans don't want to impose that on other people," Susan Carroll, a senior research associate at the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University, said.

More Results Nearly two-thirds of respondents said that abortion should be illegal after the first trimester, with 65% opposing abortions in the second trimester. Female respondents felt more strongly about the issue, as 72% of female respondents supported a ban on second-trimester abortions, compared with 58% of men. Eighty- five percent of those surveyed support abortion when a woman's physical health is at risk, 54% when her emotional health is at risk, and 66% when the fetus is at risk for an abnormality. Regarding the use of the abortifacient RU-486, 43% favor making the drug widely available, up from 32% 11 years ago, and 46% oppose making the drug widely available.

8 posted on 03/16/2002 2:38:29 PM PST by WOSG
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Simon is getting some bad advice. His "don't ask, won't tell" positioning only invites continued debate and controversy. Experience has shown that the way to deal with this issue is just as Reagan did: State your positon. Say sincere people can disagree. But, that's just the way it is. Next question.

Mr. Simon has to learn quick that politics is hardball, not dodge ball.

9 posted on 03/16/2002 2:47:27 PM PST by elwoodp
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To: WOSG
And another thing: Hispanics are strongly pro-life. Simon could get traction responding to the chrages from the pro-abortion crowd by turning their extremism as a weapon to cut into Hispanic constituencies.

California Hispanic voters prefer tax rebate

" California Hispanic voters are eclectic in their views. On some issues they are clearly Democratic and Liberal, and yet on others, they are clearly more conservative than the nation as a whole. John Zogby "

" ... In addition, while California Hispanic respondents overall believed (68.7%) that abortion is manslaughter, 63.4% of the English-speaking Hispanics believed abortion is manslaughter compared to a more overwhelming 87.1% of the Spanish-speaking Hispanics who believed abortion is manslaughter. *Similar questions were posed to 1,000 adults nationwide during the first "American Values" survey conducted August 1999. "

10 posted on 03/16/2002 2:55:20 PM PST by WOSG
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To: TheAngryClam
When they see murder, they will hate it.

http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/abortionimages/24week/01_24.jpg

This is one of the less graphic pictures. ONLY FOR STRONG PEOPLE!

11 posted on 03/16/2002 2:56:57 PM PST by Chad Bagwell
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To: elwoodp
Your advice is sound, but dont underestimate Bill Simon. Bill Simon and his campaign had expected this and said as much. They expected that the media would harp on this. It's one of Davis' issues and not the issues Simon's campaign is running, so of course the media will run interference for Davis and will keep bringing this up, all the while giving platforms for the extremists like Michelman.

I showed some data from polls that show that Simon could not just state his position, but also say " ... I am in agreement with most of the people of California. My opponent is supported by the extremists on this issue. Next question."

12 posted on 03/16/2002 2:59:59 PM PST by WOSG
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"Bill Simon has been very clear that he is anti-choice, . . . and he doesn't represent the interests of women on the issue of reproductive rights."

Gee whiz....how many euphemisms can someone cram into one sentence?

13 posted on 03/16/2002 3:06:52 PM PST by Skooz
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To: pray4liberty
Dont get me wrong when I say this, I am a pro-life person. However this is such a non issue even if roe v wade is overturned. Unless the american people and most important the residents of the state of California have a change of heart (which we should at every opportunity try to change hearts on the subject, abortion is here to stay.

I am a huge Simon supporter, but there are more issues just as important that I want to focus my energies on.

14 posted on 03/16/2002 3:14:36 PM PST by Beeline40@aol.com
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To: TheAngryClam; ron dog, ernest at the beach; all
The whole thing is a non issue!

Until we get enough conservative judges in SCOTUS to over turn Roe B Wade, no governor of any state can stop abortions.

The lefties know this and Simon should just stand up and say I'm pro life, but I can do nothing about abortions and you know that!

Before conservatives jump on me, I am 100% pro life. However, the reality is that electing Simon to be governor of California will not have any impact on abortions in California while he is governor.

To stop abortions, we must elect enough conservative US senators to have a clear majority in the senate. Then GW has to nominate conservative judges for the Supreme Court and the senate needs to approve them. When we have enough, the baby murdering judgement will be set aside.

Until then we need to stop the left wing maggots on their number one card, the abortion card. It is a non issue until the Supreme Court changes the ruling. Simon and other republican governors cannot stop abortion. It is that simple!

15 posted on 03/16/2002 3:18:29 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Tell it on the mountain, Grampa!
16 posted on 03/16/2002 3:24:28 PM PST by Pistias
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To: TheAngryClam
Parsky is not backing Simon?

If I remember correctly, Simon beat Riordan by a bigger marging with women, than overall.

Has Demcrats for life ever been quoted by the media?

17 posted on 03/16/2002 3:24:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Grampa Dave
You said it better than I could. The lefties want to keep this issue alive, when we should be looking at the big picture, and we fall for it every time.
18 posted on 03/16/2002 3:25:33 PM PST by Beeline40@aol.com
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To: TheAngryClam
"California women deserve to know where (Simon) stands on reproductive rights issues," including stem cell research, funding for teen sex education and state-financed distribution of drugs like RU-486, said Harriet Stinson, founder of Republicans for Choice.

State-financed ? Oh, I forgot that Kalifornia is flush with cash.(/sarcasm)

19 posted on 03/16/2002 3:30:50 PM PST by Mark
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To: Grampa Dave
Your position seems to be the same as Simon's. The one addition I will make is there are some issues the governor can have an impact: unborn protection laws; informed consent laws; waiting period laws; Partial birth abortion laws(possibly)etc. For example, Viriginia's legislature passed some kind or right-to-know act last week, which the governor may veto.
20 posted on 03/16/2002 3:34:00 PM PST by nickcarraway
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