Is It Time to Secede?

ToogoodReports.com ^ | 04/03/2002 | Chuck Baldwin

[sheltonmac]

A recent column written by Dr. Walter Williams succinctly stated the constitutional case for secession. His history is accurate and his reasoning is sound. The bottom line is that the Founding Fathers fully acknowledged the right of states to secede from the Union should they choose to do so. Abraham Lincoln was wrong in 1861. The war waged by the separatist South was indeed "A War Against Northern Aggression."

Obviously, the rightness of the Southern cause is overshadowed by its defeat. However, the propaganda war waged against the South during the past 50 years rivals Lincoln's war, and then some.

Great Southern leaders such as Davis, Lee, and Jackson have been sullied and denigrated to the point that even their great character and virtue have been thoroughly expunged from the minds of the American people, not to mention the great cause of independence for which they fought. It is the height of inconsistency to demean Lee and his fellow Confederates while at the same time honoring Washington and his fellow revolutionaries. The cause of one was the cause of both. Of course, today's socialists (which are found in both major political parties) solve that problem by repudiating both the Founding Fathers and the Southern Confederacy.

Herein lies the real agenda: it is the goal of socialists to squash the spirit of independence from the minds and hearts of the American people. As long as dependence upon government is the result, it does not matter whether one calls himself a Republican or Democrat.

It appears painfully obvious that neither political Party intends to return America to the principles of self-government. Both of them are determined to create bigger and bigger government, more bureaucracy, more dependence, and less freedom.

Therefore, the question begs to be asked, "When is secession in order?" How long will free men tolerate ever-increasing encroachment upon their liberties? When will they say, "Enough is enough," and declare their independence again?

If Mormons can move in mass to the state of Utah and subsequently control its government, could not freedom-loving people do the same in another state? Could not that state legislature then declare itself free and independent? If so, which state? If the causes are not sufficient for such action now, when will they be?

Furthermore, we can no longer look to our political leaders or to our religious leaders to help us. They have all become lackeys for the establishment socialists who control the affairs of state. Forget the Republican Party; it is a lost cause! At some point, the people of this country must act for themselves.

Williams's argument for secession is as valid today as the South's was in 1861. It needs to be considered again.

[sheltonmac]

Bump

[anniegetyourgun]

I vote for Texas - good natural resources, plenty of acreage, and pretty decent weather in most parts. When do we all move, how do we get the leftist freaks out, when do we announce secession from the union, and will we still call it the nation of Texas?

[Republic of Texas]

As for the state, there is only one, TEXAS! Y'all come on down, we have experience in beating tyrannical nations.

[Restorer]

If Mormons can move in mass to the state of Utah and subsequently control its government1. That's en masse.

2. When the Mormons moved to Utah, it wasn't a state. It wasn't even a part of the territory of the US. (Or at least most of it wasn't.)

Considering how well the last attempt at secession worked out, you would think people would try to find some other, less suicidal way of influencing the society they live in.

[Republic of Texas]

Just have to relocate a few socialists from Austin, Houston and Dallas. It will be a welcome change to see them go.

[watcher1]

Forget the Republican Party; it is a lost cause!

Just the RINOS

[Kerberos]

"How long will free men tolerate ever-increasing encroachment upon their liberties? "

As long as the government doesn't tax us to the point that we are unable to eak at a meager existence we will look the other way. We will pretend it only affects the bad people.

As long as we are allowed to maintain our house in the suburb, two cars in the garage, and a well kept lawn, there will be no revolution.

[Steve Eisenberg]

I thought that part of the greatness of Lee's character was that he accepted the results of the war and afterwards became a constructive and loyal U.S. citizen. Maybe the author of this article could consider emulating General Lee.

[ancient_geezer]

Walter Williams is usually right in economics. But some hold a somewhat differing opinion in subjects outside his expertise:

Posted earlier today on FR ---> Walter Williams: Wrong on Secession

[TomGuy]

As idealistic as the concept may seem, it would not prove very practical. Assuming such secession occurs. It would first be regional--southeast, southwest, northeast, northwest. Then, individual states would break off. Before long, the result would be something resembling the Balkans of Europe--a bunch of little countries, warring against neighbors, competing for goods and services, etc. Very few of these little "countries" would have ample self-containment to be very successful. Not all states, for example, produce enough food for their own populations because not all are primarily agricultural. Then, of course, would be the greater potential for outside invasion and conquest.

[Mini-14]

Texas is great, but unfortunately I had to leave several months ago to accept a job in Illinois. Until the economy recovers in Texas a few years from now, I think I'll have to stay up here.

[anniegetyourgun]

What do you think of my idea in #3?

[Tauzero]

Thanks for the ping. Good article.

Got a pointer to the original Williams article?

[AK2KX]

you would think people would try to find some other, less suicidal way of influencing the society they live in.

Those that secede don't ask for violence. The powers that be seek to quash dissent by killing those who only wish to be left alone to form their own society. Why would an attempt at secession by Texas, let's say, be justification to kill thousands of people who only wish to be left alone?

[anniegetyourgun]

Perhaps if some of us from other states offered to swap homes with them? I'll bet there are plenty of libs in TX who would feel so much more at home here in Seattle.....especially the ones with rings in their noses.

[NovemberCharlie]

And we already have a secessionist constitution floating around.

Texas Constitution 2000

[anniegetyourgun]

I'm ready to go and I think we could work out a peaceful settlement with the Leftists in TX who wouldn't want to stay. Perhaps we could make a deal with N. Mexico - they get 5 libs for every 1 conservative they can find and we trade?

[Pern]

I'm in! And I have to agree with the Texans. Texas would be the best place for a new nation (why did you guys join the U.S. in the first place?) I've been entertaining the idea of moving to the Port Arthur or Galveston area for some time now, just haven't talked my wife into it (she's a beach bunny from Pensacola). Any Freepers live near there? This CoonAss is really getting tired of the Great Corruption State, Louisiana.

[Brad C.]

North to Alaska!

More land, more resources, more water, more of everything.