Bill would keep U.S. out of world court

WND ^ | 4/12/02 | Jon Dougherty

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

A Texas lawmaker has drafted a bill that would ban the United States from participating in the newly formed International Criminal Court.

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, is set to introduce "The American Servicemember and Citizen Protection Act of 2002," which he said "repudiates ICC jurisdiction over American citizens." The bill essentially provides that "the International Criminal Court is not valid with respect to the United States," said a draft copy obtained by WorldNetDaily.

Paul said his bill seeks to protect "American citizens against the ICC by urging President Bush to rescind the foolish Clinton administration signature of the ICC treaty." It would also ban "the use of U.S. taxpayer funds for the court, and deems ICC actions against U.S. servicemen acts of aggression against America," said a statement issued by Paul's office.

"The ICC is completely illegitimate, even under the U.N.’s own charter," Paul said.

"We characterize this legislation as a counteroffensive at this point," Jeff Deist, a spokesman for Paul, told WorldNetDaily. "Congressman Paul has many findings in the bill that lays out the case against the legitimacy and authority of the (ICC)."

Among them, said the Texas lawmaker, is the fact that the world body's "charter gives neither the U.N. General Assembly nor any other U.N. agency lawmaking authority."

"In other words," he continued, "there cannot be U.N. 'laws,' and there is no valid law authorizing the establishment of the ICC. The ratification of the ICC treaty, whether by 60 nations or 1,000, does nothing to give the court any legal authority whatsoever."

The bill notes that that under the terms of the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, "no nation may be bound by a treaty to which that nation has not consented."

"Therefore the United States, which has not consented" to the ICC "cannot be bound" by its terms, the bill says.

It notes that the ICC is "wholly unauthorized by the Charter of the United Nations." And, it says the ICC statute "also contravenes the principle of government only by the consent of the governed," which is "enshrined in the American national charter, the Declaration of Independence."

The ICC's authority, the bill notes, circumvents U.S. constitutional "principles of separation of powers, federalism and trial by jury that are guaranteed" to Americans.

The ICC "by design and effect, is an illegitimate court," the bill states.

Paul thinks the world court could be used as a tool against the global interests of the U.S.

"The ICC, like the U.N. itself, will be used for political purposes," he said. "Far from being neutral, the court will serve as a weapon against disfavored nations and leaders. Given the anti-American sentiment that pervades the U.N., we can only assume that the court will be used one day to prosecute Americans who offend our many enemies among U.N. member states."

As WND reported, the world court was officially instituted yesterday at the U.N.'s New York City headquarters. According to its charter, the ICC is a permanent tribunal established ostensibly to prosecute "crimes against humanity." Clinton signed the treaty on his last day in office, Jan. 20, 2001, but it has never been ratified by the Senate. But as late as Monday there were reports that President Bush had sought means to retract the signature of the former president.

Deist confirmed that Bush has talked of finding a way to withdraw Clinton's signature, but he said talk in Washington is sometimes cheap.

"The ICC cannot exercise legitimate jurisdiction over American citizens," Paul said. "Furthermore, the Senate cannot constitutionally ratify any treaty that attempts to surrender the judicial function to an international agency. Our Constitution guarantees every American citizen various rights before, during and after a criminal arrest and trial, and no valid treaty can deny our citizens those rights."

Deist told WND that the bill is similar to legislation introduced in the House and Senate last summer, but that the Texas lawmaker's bill "is more zesty."

He also said the measure had garnered at least 15 co-sponsors by midday yesterday but it is so new that it has yet to be assigned a number.

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[Nitro]

It is funny you should mention that...

good play was usually rewarded with the affection of a local girl!

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if it wasn't for Brooklyn ... New York would be a hick town!!

[Nitro]

I love the meter...

did you ever set up a puke-ometer?

I remember a hurricane, we were in GTMO and we were sent out to avoid bashing the ship to death, so we ran north and east in the Atlantic, at one point I actually did walk on a bulkhead to stop from going over...

it scared the shit out of me...

and I wish I could do it again tomorrow!!!

As I suggested, if you argue with a fool... you are the fool!!

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Remember a liar never runs out of... lies!!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

The worst I was ever in was when we took a 47 1/2 degree list in the tail end of a typhoon of of Japan.
Ever see the Caine Mutiny? Where Bogie loses it on the bridge?
That's the closet thing I've ever seen on film to describe that ride.

I'm done with what's his name.
I proved my point(s)
Got much better things to do in my life.

[Nitro]

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Frame 72 was our turn point!!

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I wish I was back there today, fear and all!!

[Nitro]

I have been thinking about fear via my last few posts...

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[Nitro]

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[Nitro]

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[G.Mason]

Thanks for posting this.

[RaceBannon]

That's why they make Cargo Chutes!!

[Nitro]

I can dig it!!

[B4Ranch]

From the firmness of your reply, "Please show me where the UN has joint "control" over ANY American land.", I believe that you are in for possibly the worst shock of your life that is not an unexpected family death. If you are not feeling very strong today, I beg you not to continue.

Please click on the links to review to documents I am selecting for quotations to verify yourself that the United States land, air, water, education, health system, you name itis under control of United Nations Treaties, Conventions, Agreements, Orders, etc.

Land Between The Lakes Natural Resources Management Plan, SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: (snip). In addition, LBL was designated an international biosphere reserve by the United Nations in 1991. The UN's biosphere reserve program identifies examples of the world's major managed and preserved ecosystems and emphasizes resource conservation and research at those areas. LBL was designated a UN biosphere reserve ``to provide a research demonstration of how preserved lands, managed lands, and man can coexist.''

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REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS CONFERENCE ON ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT

(snip) 37.2. Building endogenous capacity to implement Agenda 21 will require the efforts of the countries themselves in partnership with relevant United Nations organizations, as well as with developed countries.

The United States is already working under Agenda 21. When Carry Okie worked for the Monterey County, he followed the UN guidlines in writing the County controls.

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countries and considered developing countries

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Implementing the "Agenda 21" Plans for the Environment - 

Based on environmental conferences in 1972 and 1992

AGENDA 21	SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT	THE BIODIVERSITY  TREATY	PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
The UN Conference on the Environment and Development in Rio de Janeiro, June 1992  --Established the UN Commission on  Sustainable Development -- Agreed for a bold mandate for change-- to reorganize Western civilization - " --A number of non-legally binding  agreements were signed for all types  of forests, decertification and climate  change along with biological diversity.  around nature.  IN THE FUTURE, ALL PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS WILL CHANGE TO CONFORM WITH THE ENVIRONMENT, i.e., if you have a  "endangered specie" on your farm, you cannot farm your property. All rights are restricted to the government.	The concept of Sustainable Development basically says that there are too many people on planet Earth and that the population of the world must be reduced in order to have enough resources for future generations. The UN should be the global custodian of the earth and all of its resources. This means that we will be measured by how much we produce and how much we consume as found in the "family dependency ratio." Every person will be valued according to their usefulness. In addition, the UN will control the earth's resources--energy, water, food and so on. The concept of sustainable development can be found in the Communist Manifesto and the 1977 USSR Constitution.	Part of the Agenda 21 is Biodiversity which is a phrase coined to describe the variety of the genes, species and ecosystem found on our planet. It embraces all life forms, from plant and animal life to micro-organisms and the water, land and air in which they live and interact....Al Gore wrote in his book,  Earth in the Balance, "We must make the rescue of the environment the central organizing principle for civilization,...use every policy and program, every law and institution, every treaty and alliance, every tactic and strategy, every plan and course of action...to halt the destruction of the environment and to preserve...our ecological system." It was move 50% of the surface land in America into protected "ecosystems" There are 47 biospheres in the US occupying over 43.5 million acres of land.	The Senate did NOT ratify the UN Biodiversity Treaty, however, Bill Clinton, through Executive Order set up the President's Commission on Sustainable Development which is in the process of implementing the UN Biodiversity Treaty.  This Treaty will move human beings by 2025 in to "protected islands" in which they will not be able to get out of or move from. These islands will be surrounded by corridors and buffer zones.  There are many laws which are being passed that are moving, bit by bit, thousands of acres into "protected wildlife, heritage, and ecosystems." The chart on the following page lists only a few of the land redesignated in 1993-1994 103rd Congress.  GloOver.1 Copyright 10/96, TWG, Inc.

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July, 1944

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THE WORLD BANK	THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND	THE WORLD TRADE  ORGANIZATION	"THE GLOBAL SECURITY AND  EXCHANGE COMMISSION"
Birthed at the UN Monetary Conference in 1944, this organization was originally suppose to make reconstruction loans to develop countries after the war. They made two of them and then changed their mandate. Today, they are orchestrating world economic globalization. They have added, besides a number of regional banks in Africa, Latin America and Asia, a loan guarantee company, and a company to establish stock markets around the world. In addition, they are an originator of loans to poor countries for development. There is much documented evidence that the World Bank is a heavy taskmaster and that Third World Countries cannot develop infrastructure because of the debt load. The Bank also is a leader in lending based on sustainable development and population reduction.	The purpose of this Fund was originally to help develop war torn Europe, however, today, they basically plan and orchestrate the economic development of countries of the world, looking to bring that development into harmonization and convergence with the UN's overall plans. The Group of Seven Finance Ministers have agreed to change the direction of the IMF and provide it with the powers of a "world central bank" (UN Human Development Report 1994). These include: (1) Stabilize global economic activity, (2) Lender of last resort of financial institutions, (3) Calm jittery financial markets, and (4) Create and regulate new international liquidity . The first three are being put into motion now after agreement at the 1996 G-7 meeting in France and the Spring IMF/World Bank Meeting.	Originally recommended at the 1944 Bretton Woods Conference, the U.S. Senate refused to ratify a "world trading body" in 1948. However, after much lobbying, the GATT was signed into law in the U.S. by a lame duck congress in December, 1994. On 1/1/95, GATT became the UN World Trade Organization. Lawmakers do not yet understand the extent of their actions when they signed the more than 25,000 page document. It is the goal of the UN to have a "world without borders." The WTO basically tears down tariffs, trade barriers and copyright laws in favor of the global good and "free trade." The WTO will be meeting in December at their first Ministerial Conference to determine fines (sanctions) for countries who do not implement their 25,000 pages of global rules.	Due to the globalization process which is taking place in the world today, basically every country has established a stock exchange. The International Conference on Security Commissions- -IOSCO in Montreal is working with the Bank for International Settlements to set up and become a "global regulatory agency" which basically makes it a "Global Security and Exchange Commission." They currently think of themselves as a "United Nations of Security Commissions." They recently held their 21st annual meeting in which they have adopted more global regulatory measures that will standardize the regulatory laws worldwide. This encompasses banks, security firms and exchanges as well as insurance companies.

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Population Reduction - Cairo, 9/94	The Social Summit -  Copenhagen, 3/95	The Fourth Women's Conference - Beijing, 9/95	Habitat II Conference,  Istanbul, 6/96	The Food Conference, Rome 11/96
Here the UN passed a very large "Programme of Action" to reduce the population in the world through "family planning clinics and education" under the auspices of International Planned Parenthood, one of their imminent grass-roots organizations. The women from the third world complained that all they could get from these clinics were condoms-- not even aspirin.	The Social Summit was held under t he guise of eliminating hunger, poverty and social disintegration, however, the real agenda was a world tax for the UN. This is still a goal, to find a source of funding which is "unlimited" as that they do not have to rely on contributions from member- states. Also, they recommended changes to the IMF, stated above and are pushing for their own voluntary army. These are goals that they have been working towards basically since their inception in 1945.	This conference, while wanting to change the definition of "family" to include homosexuality, had a hidden agenda under the feminine rhetoric and that is the replacement of national laws with those of international law and sustainable development economics which would measure the production and consumption of every person in the world. Hillary Clinton has a Women's Commission at the White House in which they are advancing the Beijing Agenda in the U.S.	This conference, did much to show the extent of the UN agenda. Instead of the heads of governments making their speeches to the UN, it was the ministerial level of every government which presented their goals on how they were going to conform with Habitat. The Habitat Agenda clearly and emphatically states that "personal property rights adds to injustice" and that they must be changed for the good of the public. Three mayors from U.S. cities were on the U.S. delegation. Kurt Schmoke from Baltimore said that he saw the participation of the grass roots level in the direct U.N. process as the "new wave of the future."	This conference, like others held before it in the 50's and 70's, is last in a series of mega- conferences in which the UN is going after the definition of family and population control, not to mention trying to control the food supply in the world.  This conference along with the previous ones listed here is part of the overall push for world governance through the UN, negating in our case, the U.S. constitution and by- passing the House and the Senate. International law is comprised of the consensus obtained at these conferences.

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Gays in the military and women in combat.

One of the chief goals of the UN is a complete disarmament of the forces and defense capabilities of the member- states so that in the end, the UN is dominant. There have been a number of laws and policies passed by the U.S. Government toward this end. They are enclosed: (1) FREEDOM FROM WAR -  This would place our military under foreign command. A copy of State Department Publication 7277 which  became Public Law 87-297. A sheet on the 1988 U.S. code Book is also enclosed. (2) UPDATED AMENDMENT TO LAW 87-297  This is called the "Arms Control and Disarmament Amendments Act of 1989, copy enclosed. (3) List of Planks of the Communist Manifesto and their fulfillment in U.S. Law. (4) The giving up of part of Holaman Air Force Base to the Germans - foreign soldiers training in the U.S.,  including the Russians (5) The establishment of many "Joint Law Enforcement" Schools around the world. (6) The 40 points of terrorism agreed to by the G-7 in Lyon, France which would join and bring our law enforcement  under a central foreign command.

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Group of Seven + Luxembourg, Switzerland, Holland, Sweden and 

Belgium (Comprises all of the major money centers of the world)

GROUP OF SEVEN

United States, Britain, Canada, France, Italy,

Germany, Japan plus Russia

THE UNITED NATIONS

The countries left after the Group of Seven/Group of Ten - which are called the "G-77" - comprised of 122 of the remaining 

countries and considered developing countries

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implementing World Government

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A Partial List of National US Parks under Biosphere Reserve Protection

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

1978 Yellowstone National Park
1979 Everglades National Park
1979 Grand Canyon National Park
1980 Redwood National Park
1981 Mammoth Cave National Park
1981 Olympic National Park
1983 Great Smokey Mountains National Park
1984 Yosemite National Park
1987 Hawaii Volcanoes National Park
1995 Carlsbad Caverns National Park

I believe all of the Federal parks are now under this program.

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[A Navy Vet]

I went through much of that material earlier. The communistic goals of the UN aside, nowhere is indicated they "control" American lands. Our stupid, short-sighted, and socialistic politicians ALLOW the UN more leeway then is prudent, but I've yet to see one piece of evidence prooving the UN "controls" anything. Show me.

This reminds me of a debate regarding FEMA taking control of the military. Clinton authorized FEMA to develop a plan to work closely with the military in national emergency. The hysterics on this forum read the E.O. language incorrectly and started screaming that FEMA would take over the military in times of emergency. Same thing here. The UN does NOT control any American land. Now if the Senate were to ratify the Biological Diversity Treaty, then you'd have a case.

[B4Ranch]

Sustainable Communities

(snip) More often than not, the "visioning" process in local communities tries to avoid any connection to the UN or to Agenda 21 by adopting positive-sounding names such as "Environment 2000" as in Steamboat Springs, Colorado. In Dover-Foxcroft, Maine, the program is called "Economic Renewal." All sorts of names are used to camouflage the UN's influence on public policies that are being developed for every American city. Regardless of names used to describe the process, the end result looks very similar, whether in Santa Cruz, Birmingham, or St. Louis.

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The Commission on Global Governance"

(snip) Reforming the United Nations

The Commission's recommendations centre principally on the United Nations, the only forum in which governments come together regularly to tackle world problems. Our Global Neighbourhood suggests how the UN should be revitalised so it can better respond to the needs of the modern world - a world that has changed in many ways since the UN was formed in 1945.

The report includes proposals to:
Reform the Security Council, so that it becomes more representative and maintains its legitimacy and credibility
Set up an Economic Security Council to have more effective - and more democratic - oversight of the world economy
Establish a United Nations Volunteer Force so that the Security Council can act more quickly in emergencies
Vest the custody of the global commons in the Trusteeship Council, which has completed its original work
Treat the security of people and of the planet as being as important as the security of states
Strengthen the rule of law worldwide
Give civil society a greater voice in governance.
Explore ways to raise new funds for global purposes, e.g. a tax on foreign currency movements, and charges for using flight lanes, sea-lanes and other common global resources

They want their own court system, their own army, their own source of automatic income, (no waiting for Congress to approve the budget) and anything else they need from us? *********************************************************

Any idea what and who brought this Agency <a href=">http://www.epa.gov/</a> to your doorstep and into your bathroom to restrict the size of your toilet. Seriously, I can go on for days about how the UN has changed America and our childrens futures but I have had enough for today. Just freep me if you have personal questions. I hope I haven't ruined your life by showing you how the UN controls our land, and .............

[A Navy Vet]

You're confusing influence with control.

[B4Ranch]

No I don't think so. Just about all of the controls they have asked for have been assigned to a US Government Agency and are conducted according to the plans of the UN papers.

[battleax]

True GWB is the man. But This needs to be talked about on TV informing People what it is all about. 'course the noodles will depress it. We can only depend on Fox, Rush and other America and Constitution lovers to get the info out. I called at least 20 people about CFR, Had to explain what it was all about. Less than five knew. Can't believe the ignorance of Americans who only come to life after it is all over. Thanks for Freerepublic, Lucianne, Fox news and the conservative talk shows. Amazed at my friends now hooked on Fox.

[A Navy Vet]

"US Government Agency"

You've made my point, thank you. The UN has negative influence, not control. What a US Government does, they can undo - not that it ever happens.

And make no mistake about my position...the UN represents the biggest threat to our sovereignty, just after the our own socialist politicians. While we must stay engaged in world affairs, I believe we should tell the UN where to stick it.