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The Myths of Vegetarianism
http://www.mercola.com/2000/apr/2/vegetarian_myths.htm ^ | April, 2002 | Stephen Byrnes, ND, PhD, RNCP

Posted on 04/16/2002 1:40:40 PM PDT by Brookhaven

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To: Brookhaven
They should try the Atkins Diet. I lost around eighty pounds and have never felt healthier on an ALL MEAT DIET!

Mama says, "Vegetables are the Devil!"

21 posted on 04/16/2002 3:15:57 PM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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To: Brookhaven
Good post.

"All things in moderation."

22 posted on 04/16/2002 4:28:39 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Brookhaven
I don't give a hoot if someone wants to be a vegetarian or not. I tried it once, (for dietary reasons) and enjoyed it, but I like pork too much to have lived on it forever.

However, there are two times that I hated disliked 2 different people because of their vegetarianism. Both times, I was with a small group who were going out for a Chinese meal --you know the kind, where dishes are shared. (I take my Chinese food very seriously, and ordering a balanced meal is an art.) Well, we were ordering, and a voice pops up and says "I'm vegetarian!" It threw everything off! To accomodate one person (who didn't want to order her very own thing) we had things most people didn't want, just so she could have a taste of everything.

Why does it seem as tho most vegetarians are female. The ones that I know are mostly female.

23 posted on 04/16/2002 5:35:10 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: Exit148
Additionally, Westerners, urged on by government health agencies, have reduced their intake of eggs, cream, lard, beef and pork.

You know something, THAT is our diet! Eggs, cream, lard, beef and pork. Throw in a little chicken and pizza too. My kids are looking MUCH healthier since we switched to WHOLE MILK. Now we just need a cow and chickens :-)

24 posted on 04/16/2002 6:20:03 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette
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To: jpl
ooppps I stand corrected. Gator is ok. How about snake?
25 posted on 04/16/2002 8:25:40 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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26 posted on 04/17/2002 5:14:03 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven

You are what you eat.

28 posted on 04/17/2002 5:51:24 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Brookhaven
Bump!

BTW, a deficiency in B-12 can cause M.S. and M.S. like symptons.

29 posted on 04/17/2002 6:03:02 AM PDT by nmh
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To: Malcolm
Ironically there is a diet out there called the "Hallelujah Diet", promoted by a "Reverand". The poor sap even uses Bible verses to support it. Of course he ONLY uses verses in Genesis. For some reason the rest of the Bible can't be used. Is that the heighth of ignorance or what? What's also amazing is how ignorant others are of the Bible and go along with it. Nothing like the blind leading the blind.
30 posted on 04/17/2002 6:07:25 AM PDT by nmh
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To: Marie Antoinette
My kids are looking MUCH healthier since we switched to WHOLE MILK. Now we just need a cow and chickens :-)

You have no idea what whole milk really is until you've had a cow. Growing up, I milked a Guernsey cow twice a day for years. She gave about 5 gallons/day and after skimming off as much cream as we possibly could, it was STILL richer than store-bought whole milk.

It takes some getting used to if you've never had it before.

31 posted on 04/17/2002 6:13:04 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce
The best thing to do is rush a bucket of milk the minute you get it out of the cow, to a hand crank ice cream freezer. Throw in the rest of the ingredients for ice cream, then turn the crank until its frozen. Yummmmmy.
32 posted on 04/17/2002 6:26:23 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: mad_as_he$$
How about snake?

Rattlesnake ain't bad... A lil' tough and gamey but good eatin'...

33 posted on 04/17/2002 6:26:30 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: Exit148
Why does it seem as tho most vegetarians are female. The ones that I know are mostly female.

Well that's my experience too... Some of my buds in the local running club are vegetarian though, we even got a token full-out vegan... More likely than not that highpitched screech "oh I'm a vegetarian" does belong to a chick in my experience though...

34 posted on 04/17/2002 6:30:14 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: hedgetrimmer
Yup. The best ice cream on the planet is from pure, fresh Guernsey cream. I have yet to taste anything remotely close to it.
35 posted on 04/17/2002 6:30:34 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: Malcolm
I would disagree with you that Peter in Acts was about "eating anything you wanted". I believe God was trying to show Peter that the Gospel was Universal (for the gentiles too) not a "Jew only" phenomenon. If you read acts you'll see that Peter had problems in this area especially in areas regarding strict observence of the traditional Jewish law.

I'd also like to point out that we were created to only eat fruit (this would include grain and legumes). After the flood animals were given to us to eat, as well as a shortened life-span. God much have flicked some sort of "switch" in human metabolism, and I now think that some meat in the diet is not only good but necessary. Although, living off of red-meat every day and every day probably is not the best idea.

36 posted on 04/17/2002 6:42:49 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: BurkeCalhounDabney
Margarine and vegetable oil both count in the fat category

Sorry, but this is very wrong for 2 key reasons.

(1)Margarine, vegetable shortening, processed vegetable oils (canola, safflower, corn, etc), are chemically damaged in industrial processing. The high heat of the processing shifts the "cis" unsaturated bonds to an unnatural "trans" form. Also, when veggie oils are synthetically hydrogenated to make shortening or margarine, those unsaturated bonds that missed during hydrogenation (saturated)are converted to "trans" configuration (because it's a hot process.)

These "trans" fats were not historically part of the human diet, they're biochemically new. Among other things, trans fats sabotage prostaglandin production, probably causing or contributing to allergies, asthma, cancer, and heart disease, among other things. When our forefathers lived on animal fats, these problems were very rare, even among the very old. But now they're epidemic. For more info, go here: How Vegetable Oils Took Over

(2) The vegetable oils, even healthful natural oils such as olive oil, lack certain key nutrients that modern Americans are typically deficient in, and that can only be obtained from animal sources.

For examply, nearly all of us have Vitamin D deficiency, as evidenced by the fact that almost all of us seem to need orthodontics nowadays (it was proven in the 1930s that malocclusion is ALL nutrional and 100% preventable by proper prenatal nutrition, yet your dentist was probably taught in school that it's "genetic".) And modern women have more and more trouble with childbirth due to narrowed hips -- again, a Vitamin D related problem. We definitely do NOT get enough Vit. D from the sun, especially if we wash regularly (removes the precursor oils) and wear clothes so we MUST get it from foods if we want the healthy bone structures of our ancestors. Lard, eggs, and butter, especially pasture-grown, are good sources of it, as are codliver oil and many seafoods -- but veggie oils contain no Vit. D at all. A good Vitamin D related story: Disillusioned with Veganism

Vitamin A is another one.... We're usually told that veggie-derived carotenes convert to Vitamin A in the body, but not everyone converts them equally well. For those who don't, preconverted vitamin A from animal sources (eggs, dairy, fish, etc) is essential. Similar comments apply to Omega-3 fatty acids -- not everyone can convert the vegetable-derived Alpha Linolenic acid into the DHA and EPA that we need, some people simply must get these from animal-fat sources or their health will always be poor.

I could go on and on about this topic (I'm a chemist, and I have an aspergerish tendency to talk too much), but I think I've made my point. The conclusion: Eat the healthy, natural animal fats your great grandparents ate -- butter (grassfed if possible), lard, eggs, and meat -- and you'll be just fine. For more info -- Great-Grandpa's Diet

37 posted on 04/17/2002 8:43:00 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: Rytwyng
typo...
that missed during hydrogenation (saturated)
should read
that WERE missed during hydrogenation (saturatION)

Beware the hazards of hasty copy/paste

38 posted on 04/17/2002 8:46:07 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: kd5cts
Actually, cat is a dark meat.

I've eaten lion and it actually has some white meat that tastes much like veal.

39 posted on 04/17/2002 8:46:15 AM PDT by in_troth
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To: Brookhaven
I read a story recently (I think it was on freerepublic) where a guy had calculated how many field mice are killed per acre plowing the land for growing vegetables. Ha!
40 posted on 04/17/2002 9:01:29 AM PDT by Lost Highway
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