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Meditation for This Morning
http://ccel.org/s/spurgeon/morn_eve/this_morning.cgi? ^ | 5/9/02 | Charles Spurgeon

Posted on 05/09/2002 6:11:08 AM PDT by RnMomof7

Meditation for This Morning

Thursday, May 09

C. H. Spurgeon


"Who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings." --Ephesians 1:3

All the goodness of the past, the present, and the future, Christ bestows upon His people. In the mysterious ages of the past the Lord Jesus was His Father's first elect, and in His election He gave us an interest, for we were chosen in Him from before the foundation of the world. He had from all eternity the prerogatives of Sonship, as His Father's only-begotten and well-beloved Son, and He has, in the riches of His grace, by adoption and regeneration, elevated us to sonship also, so that to us He has given "power to become the sons of God." The eternal covenant, based upon suretiship and confirmed by oath, is ours, for our strong consolation and security. In the everlasting settlements of predestinating wisdom and omnipotent decree, the eye of the Lord Jesus was ever fixed on us; and we may rest assured that in the whole roll of destiny there is not a line which militates against the interests of His redeemed. The great betrothal of the Prince of Glory is ours, for it is to us that He is affianced, as the sacred nuptials shall ere long declare to an assembled universe. The marvellous incarnation of the God of heaven, with all the amazing condescension and humiliation which attended it, is ours. The bloody sweat, the scourge, the cross, are ours for ever. Whatever blissful consequences flow from perfect obedience, finished atonement, resurrection, ascension, or intercession, all are ours by His own gift. Upon His breastplate he is now bearing our names; and in His authoritative pleadings at the throne He remembers our persons and pleads our cause. His dominion over principalities and powers, and His absolute majesty in heaven, He employs for the benefit of them who trust in Him. His high estate is as much at our service as was His condition of abasement. He who gave Himself for us in the depths of woe and death, doth not withdraw the grant now that He is enthroned in the highest heavens.



TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: calvinism; meditation; spurgeon; theology
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A Good Morning Blessing to all
1 posted on 05/09/2002 6:11:08 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M;the_doc;CCWoody; Matchett-PI; JenB;oneofhis; Diamond...
The bloody sweat, the scourge, the cross, are ours for ever. Whatever blissful consequences flow from perfect obedience, finished atonement, resurrection, ascension, or intercession, all are ours by His own gift. Upon His breastplate he is now bearing our names; and in His authoritative pleadings at the throne He remembers our persons and pleads our cause. His dominion over principalities and powers, and His absolute majesty in heaven, He employs for the benefit of them who trust in Him.

Be faithful this day!

2 posted on 05/09/2002 6:13:24 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
for the benefit of them that trust in Him.

Thanks for starting my day in the right direction. 8~)

3 posted on 05/09/2002 7:01:12 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: winstonchurchill;xzins;forthedeclaration;p-marlowe;restornu;corin stormhands;shadow ace
How shall an unholy God send out unholy messengers? An unsanctified minister is an unsent minister. An unholy missionary is a pest to the tribe he visits. An unholy teacher is an injury rather than a blessing to his students....Spurgeon

The life of the Christian should be a magnet to draw people to Christ. ..Spurgeon

Kind of conflicts somewhat with the self justified "offensiveness" of what is preached to us Arminian (or other) "students" around here.

Morning all

4 posted on 05/09/2002 7:35:18 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: RnMomof7
Thank you.
5 posted on 05/09/2002 7:57:33 AM PDT by foolish-one
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To: RnMomof7
"Sweet Victory in Jesus
my Savior forever
He sought me and He bought me
with His redeeming blood."

God's abundant blessings on everyone's life . . . He loves us as wide as "East meets West"

You're the best! 'cause it's CHRIST IN YOU! The hope of glory.

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6 posted on 05/09/2002 8:01:12 AM PDT by w_over_w
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M;the_doc;CCWoody; Matchett-PI; JenB;oneofhis; Diamond...
I got this freep mail comment on this...and then the following comment ...read and comment please

1st mail

**** "Upon His breastplate he is now bearing our names; and in His authoritative pleadings at the throne He remembers our persons and pleads our cause." ****

I think you need to make a correction on the thread and flag everyone you can.

You emphasized "NOW bearing our names." The Bible's emphasis is DIFFERENT.
Look at Exodus 28, especially verses 12, 28, 29, and 30. (See if you can figure out what I am driving at.)
Particular redemption cheers,

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I requested clarification and this is the response

My point is that the names of the chosen people were on the Lord's shoulders and their precious souls were on His heart **when He MADE ATONEMENT.** Our High Priest was not even ALLOWED to make a strictly vague, general atonement. This is clearly presented in the typology of the "chosen people."

Exodus 28:12 and 28:28-30 required that the High Priest of the OT make an atonement which was absolutely specific to the "chosen people." The OT's High Priest was not even **allowed** to go into the Holiest of Holies to present the meritorious blood (and thereby consummate the Atonement) unless he was **wearing** the epaulets with the specific names and the precious stones!

When you see that the Church is the fulfillment of the OT's chosen people idea (symbolized by the Jews as a race), the doctrine of particular redemption (limited atonement) is a slam dunk. The High Priest did NOT atone for the sins of the non-chosen. AT ALL. Then where does the free offer of the gospel fit in?

It consists in the fact of the mystery which the secret will of God entails in tension with the revealed will of God. When the High Priest was officiating at the brazen altar--for all to behold--he was wearing only a plain tunic, not the special ephod or breastpiece. But this non-specific garb merely represents the revealed will of God in the free offer of the gospel. Ah, but there is more to the gospel of the cross than the free offer!

This is what the Calvinist has noticed and what the Arminian simply refuses to notice!

What I mean is that the public ritual at the brazen altar was only the first part of a ritual involving three altars, the other two of which were not on public display!

That is the Calvinist's point.

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Now of course I agree ...whatcha think??

7 posted on 05/09/2002 1:33:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Ephesians Chapter 1 surely is the antidote for any Christian who is having a "down" day. Thanks for the meditation moment.
8 posted on 05/09/2002 1:48:41 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Jude24;all
BTW the commentary was by doc..
9 posted on 05/09/2002 1:53:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
BUMP! Thanks for the post!
10 posted on 05/09/2002 2:10:05 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: RnMomof7
thanks for the flag :-)
11 posted on 05/09/2002 2:17:36 PM PDT by jude24
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To: Revelation 911
The life of the Christian should be a magnet to draw people to Christ. ..Spurgeon

As I always said, a Calvinist to be a soul-winner has to talk like an Arminian. Here is Spurgeon talking about our lives drawing someone to God, when it is (according to Calvinism) only God that can do that!

12 posted on 05/09/2002 2:25:18 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration; RnMomof7;
" Here is Spurgeon talking about our lives drawing someone to God, when it is (according to Calvinism) only God that can do that!"

That's pretty weak FTD; no calvinist here has alluded that we cannot be tools in the Lord's hands. You want it to be you, while Calvinists admit that it is the Lord.

13 posted on 05/09/2002 4:16:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
Eithor they REALLY do not get it or the "choose " not to get it:>))
14 posted on 05/09/2002 4:24:54 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: editor-surveyor, Xzins, Rnmomof7, Revelation 911, corin stormhands, winstonchurchill
" Here is Spurgeon talking about our lives drawing someone to God, when it is (according to Calvinism) only God that can do that!" That's pretty weak FTD; no calvinist here has alluded that we cannot be tools in the Lord's hands. You want it to be you, while Calvinists admit that it is the Lord.

According to Calvinism nothing can draw a dead man anywhere! You guys love to have it both ways. How can a dead man be drawn anywhere? God has to first regenerate them! Isn't that you all teach! No unregenerate man can desire or seek God-period.

Spurgeon wons souls because he presented the Gospel as an appeal to the sinner to make a decision, not to wait for God to regenerate him.

15 posted on 05/09/2002 11:49:53 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration;xzins;corin stormhands;winston churchill;p-marlowe
According to Calvinism nothing can draw a dead man anywhere! You guys love to have it both ways. How can a dead man be drawn anywhere? God has to first regenerate them! Isn't that you all teach! No unregenerate man can desire or seek God-period.

wait a minute, wait a minute ! - Armommy said A thinking reprobate can read and understand the principles. He can even understand what they mean.

But scripture tells us only a believer can understand scripture. It begs, if a "thinking reprobate" can "understand" the calvinist "principle", then is it actually scriptural, or a man made construct?

Either (yes it is spelled that way) Armommy is right and the Calvinists wrong or (in my best Monty Python voice) shes "a witch" ;) - and how do we know shes a witch? Shes turned me into a newt when she questioned my salvation.

I got better.

But either the calvin position floats, or Armommys position floats (like a wooden "tree stump") as one of them is heretical. What else also floats besides small pebbles, and strawberries.

A duck you say.

Precisely !

- if she weighs the same as a duck, then shes a heretic to Christs teaching (at least in the calvinist eye)

We dub you "Armomian" :-)

has anyone seen my paxil?

16 posted on 05/10/2002 3:22:57 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: corin stormhands;patent;winston churchill;xzins;p-marlowe;forthedeclaration;codie;rnmomof7;restornu
(From Christian Quote of the Day - CQOD)

Bad will be the day for every man when he becomes absolutely contented with the life he is leading, with the thoughts he is thinking, with the deeds he is doing; when there is not forever beating at the doors of his soul some great desire to do something larger, which he knows that he was meant and made to do because he is still, in spite of all, the child of God.

... Phillips Brooks (1835-1893)

17 posted on 05/10/2002 3:38:17 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: fortheDeclaration; Xzins; Rnmomof7; Revelation 911; corin stormhands; winstonchurchill
"According to Calvinism nothing can draw a dead man anywhere!"

You really don't 'get it' do you?

We mortals have no way to know who is elect and who is not, thus your post is nonsense. - The Lord will do as he will, and if we are his tools, so be it.

The mortal mind cannot know the nature of God; you presume far too much. - Take his word at it's literal face value and you cannot go wrong.

18 posted on 05/10/2002 7:49:35 AM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor, Xzins, Revelation 911, corin stormhands, winston churchill
According to Calvinism nothing can draw a dead man anywhere!" You really don't 'get it' do you? We mortals have no way to know who is elect and who is not, thus your post is nonsense. - The Lord will do as he will, and if we are his tools, so be it.

Calvinism does not teach that unregenerate man can do anything until God regenerates him first. So, now you want to run from that dogma when it is inconvenient.

God can also allow a spiritual dead man to ask the question Sirs, what must I do to be saved

and then give the simple, straight forward answer believe in the Lord Jesus Christ

But it is the Calvinsts who deny that (1) the man actually had to do something (2) that faith preceeds regeneration. This is all based on your notion of Total inability. Asserting that a dead man cannot do anything regarding the Gospel. Now, however Spurgeon is telling us that same dead man can be now be drawn prior to regeneration.

No, I get it very well, Calvinism is pure mysticism based on philosophical speculation.

The mortal mind cannot know the nature of God; you presume far too much. - Take his word at it's literal face value and you cannot go wrong.

I do take his word at face value

Sirs, what must I do to be saved? Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy household. (Acts.16:31)
I see someone asking what he must do and then being told what he must do -believe.

Now, what part of that Scripture teaches regeneration preceeds faith? In fact, which Scripture teaches that? Only your own speculations on the nature of spiritual death lead you to conclude that. You do not get it from any clear statement from scripture.

It is Calvinism that presumes too much

19 posted on 05/10/2002 3:37:20 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: Revelation 911
has anyone seen my paxil?

I could tell you lost it:>))))

20 posted on 05/10/2002 3:43:38 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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