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Outsource the work of our economic advisers
seattle times ^ | February 19, 2004 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 02/19/2004 7:03:48 PM PST by dennisw

Outsource the work of our economic advisers

I read that my first job after college is being outsourced to India. Reuters Ltd., the wire service, is hiring workers halfway around the world to report on American companies' earnings, dividends, oil discoveries — anything that could move a company's stock price. Reuters will now pay Indians a fraction of what it was spending to employ Americans doing my old job.

That's the wave of the future, we are told. Skilled jobs are pulling up anchor and sailing off. Computer-programming jobs have already left by the thousands. Radiologists on other continents are reading our X-rays and CAT scans.

Intel CEO Craig Barnett says that approximately 300 million educated people in India, China and Russia can "do effectively any job that can be done in the United States." Bear in mind, there are only 144 million jobs in America.

I offer no easy plan for slowing the trend. But I'll darn well not celebrate it.

Last week, N. Gregory Mankiw, chairman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, stated that outsourcing American jobs was good for the country in the long run. A chorus of economists and financial pundits sang hymns to his wisdom.

A noble exception was Barron's columnist Alan Abelson. He noted that Mankiw's comment nearly coincided with a University of Michigan survey showing a sharp drop in consumer sentiment. Consumers see a growing threat to their jobs and may be thinking twice about spending more money. And Mankiw's sunny view of outsourcing only confirms their suspicions that the federal government will do little to ease the pains of globalization.

Abelson then speculates on how outsourcing might apply to the Council of Economic Advisers itself. First off, the three dozen economists who work there earn far more than the $10 an hour paid to their Asian counterparts. Secondly, the Americans don't do a great job. The council had predicted a net gain of 1.7 million jobs for 2003, when, in fact, the United States lost jobs. And the council's estimate of 2.6 million new jobs this year is "ludicrously" optimistic. Why not send the council's research work to Bangalore? After all, Abelson writes, "our putative Indian economists couldn't have done — or possibly do — any worse."

And what would the out-of-work economists do? They could "simply follow their chief's advice and find new jobs ostensibly immune to outsourcing," Abelson says. "Peddling real estate, perhaps, or waiting on tables."

Let me add that some Wall Street firms have already sent financial-analysis work to India. It can be easily done.

Thanks, Alan Abelson, for lampooning those cheerful predictions of an outsourced world. The peppy defenses of outsourcing were getting me down. The worst ones contend that it will free us from the scourge of dull work. Janet Yellen, who headed the council in the Clinton administration, says that outsourcing may hurt "the more standardized part of high tech" work, but Americans will keep the high-end tech jobs.

Daniel Pink, author of an article on outsourcing in Wired magazine, echoes her optimism. Pink was recently on C-Span blowing a lot of Silicon bubble talk about American "dynamism," "big-picture thinking" and "high concept" employment. He noted that only "routine, relatively standardized white-collar work is going overseas."

Well, that would describe about 99 percent of all white-collar jobs. Not to worry. Pink thinks Americans will be left with the fun work. They'll be "software experts who can manage international 24-7 work teams." Yep. We'll all be sitting right there at the controls overseeing global armies of programmers. How Americans get to be the managers goes unexplained.

The problem is, there is no limit to the jobs that can go elsewhere. We can no longer pretend that laid-off factory workers need only take some computer classes and they'll be economically secure. Their skills, it turns out, are shared by about 300 million Indians, Chinese and Russians.

My job at Reuters was crummy in many ways — stressful, deskbound, often boring. But it taught me things. I had arrived knowing nothing about business and left knowing something. "Standardized" white-collar jobs represent more than paychecks. They offer training, as well.

If outsourcing is the future, so be it. But let's not play American workers for the fool. Their future doesn't look good at all.


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To: HiTech RedNeck; Admin Moderator
HiTech, I find your depiction of our President highly insulting.
301 posted on 02/20/2004 3:14:20 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Yes, and that could happen in the US as well. Your point?

Furthermore, the price difference isn't going to last. The WTO is forcing both those countries to go in for full convertibility, the US$ is falling against most currencies, soon, the PPP will be 1:1
302 posted on 02/20/2004 3:15:39 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Cronos
Oh for cryin' out loud. It's the hat wearer in a bunch of Swedish dancers who don't even look drunk.
303 posted on 02/20/2004 3:16:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Cronos
A lot easier to dig it out in India.
304 posted on 02/20/2004 3:16:40 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Cronos; Admin Moderator
What did I say?
305 posted on 02/20/2004 3:17:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Cronos; Admin Moderator
(Irony)
306 posted on 02/20/2004 3:18:03 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Fledermaus
Yeah, you run circles why the rest of us think and use our brains.

N'est-ce-parse

307 posted on 02/20/2004 3:18:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: RussianConservative

I admire the Russians for adopting the flat tax, too, something we should have done 20 years ago and that our worthless "leaders" still won't touch.
308 posted on 02/20/2004 3:19:53 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Cronos
soon, the PPP will be 1:1

The grunts working in the credit service offices over there will be earning the same for it as what Americans are in similar offices here?

309 posted on 02/20/2004 3:21:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: kittymyrib
The groans of special interests, and just Joe Mortgagedtothehilt Homeowner, would split the earth.
310 posted on 02/20/2004 3:22:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: edeal
So voting for a canidate that will give you a pay cut (raise taxes) for your next job will help you? How?
311 posted on 02/20/2004 3:37:47 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (I was winning the pool on the Super Bowl for 3.5 minutes.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
N'est-ce-parse

It's n'est-ce pas. Si vous voulez écrivez les mots en une langue, vous devez l'étudier. Learn the right way, or dare I say it, the write way.
312 posted on 02/20/2004 3:37:58 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Yes. you understood! The grunts over there will earn the same as the grunt over here because the PPP will be 1:1
313 posted on 02/20/2004 3:38:58 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Cronos
"Does not parse." Spoken in vain to the humor-impaired
314 posted on 02/20/2004 3:40:02 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: dennisw
Outsource a whole bunch of Congressional staff jobs. The squealing of fired bureaucrats will be deafening.

My stock broker likes to get on the radio financial shows and tout the “benefits of outsourcing.” As soon as I can find an Indian Brokerage Firm, I intend to outsource HIS job. We’ll see how he likes that!

The only people in favor of outsourcing are those who think their own jobs are immune.

315 posted on 02/20/2004 3:47:28 AM PST by bimbo
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To: A. Pole; Willie Green
Outsource the work of our economic advisers

Guys, Sorry, but that happened a few years ago when unregistered foreign agents were assigned the U. S. of A. trade representative jobs. Peace and love, George.

316 posted on 02/20/2004 3:58:35 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!! GO PAT GO!!!!)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Fledermaus
So, What's wrong with this Overseas Private Investment Corporation that you harp on constantly. I finally broke down and read their web page. You know what, I support what they do. It's an insurance company that provides its clients with "political unrest" insurance and the firms that utilize this form of "risk pooling" are paying the premiums. I don't see it so much as "corporate welfare" as I do than a private business that provides a unique form of insurance. So what if the company's re-insurer happens to be the federal government? Did you happen to catch that this OPIC, indirectly, provides 1/4 million U.S. jobs and $65 billion in U.S. exports. Sounds like the United States citizens have a vested interest in the programs success.
317 posted on 02/20/2004 3:59:41 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Shameless way to get you to view my FR homepage)
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To: Cronos
You know, I'm highly offended that you trying to get the moderator into that discussion. Get out of the kitchen already!
318 posted on 02/20/2004 4:04:46 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Shameless way to get you to view my FR homepage)
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To: bimbo
My stock broker likes to get on the radio financial shows and tout the “benefits of outsourcing.” As soon as I can find an Indian Brokerage Firm, I intend to outsource HIS job. We’ll see how he likes that!

The only people in favor of outsourcing are those who think their own jobs are immune.

Your example of your stock broker is a perfect illustration of the benefits of trade, only on a micro level and at the domestic locale. Tell me, why is it that you use a broker? Think of every factor that goes into that decision that you've made. Next, take those same factors [if you're normal, this exercise should work as intended] and apply them to the issue of "outsourcing" of jobs to India.

319 posted on 02/20/2004 4:16:54 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Shameless way to get you to view my FR homepage)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
More proof that our schools are failing our kids: Evidence of how stupid American students (and teachers) are has been slowly amassing. The creeping cretinism is confirmed by reports like "A Nation at Risk." Especially indicative are the below-international-average scores of 17-year-olds. One out of four children is dropping out and not graduating. High schools have been so dumbed down that even average students sit bone idle. Fully 50 percent of students with IQs that border on mental retardation manage to pass. Unlike our European counterparts, American universities, colleges and even corporations spend a fortune on teaching students elementary things they should have learned in high school. College professors attest to a decline in the quality of students entering colleges.
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320 posted on 02/20/2004 4:17:13 AM PST by Cronos (W2K4!)
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