Posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:45 AM PDT by DCBryan1
Edited on 10/02/2006 12:55:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Developing....
School Shooting injures one person,
Hostage situation may be developing.
Update: Multiple Shooting Victims and Possible Hostages in Lancaster County
Not many details available yet, but an incident has been reported from Mine Rd. in Bart Township in Lancaster County involving multiple gunshot victims. Dennis Buterbaugh reports live from our newsroom. abc27 has a news crew on the way. We will update with details as they become available.
Update 2: Pennsylvania Police: Amish School is 'Horrendous Crime Scene' After Shooting
NICKEL MINES, Pa. — At least two female students and one slightly older female — who may have been a teacher's aide — were shot and killed execution style in what police say may be a revenge killing for something that happened 20 years ago.
State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Monday that truck driver Charles Carl Roberts IV entered the one-room Amish schoolhouse in earlier in the day. The gunman brought in pieces of wood to board up the doors to the building when he entered the school. He also stacked desks against the building's doors.
"It appears that the suspect entered school with the intention of taking hostages," Miller said.
Roberts had wire ties and plastic flex cuff, which he used to begin tying the hostages feet together after they were lined up along a blackboard. He let go 15 male students, as well as one adult female who was pregnant. Three other non-student females with infants were also allowed to leave. One shotgun and one handgun was found next to the suspect when police entered the building.
"It seems as though he wanted to attack young, female victims," Miller said.
After a half hour inside, Roberts began shooting. When the gunfire stopped, three females were found shot dead at the scene, along with the suspect, who shot himself, Miller said. At least seven more victims — some critically wounded — were transported to nearby hospitals, he said. One victim, a young girl, died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. He could not confirm how many people died en route or at the hospital. The county coroner earlier reported six children killed but then backed off of that statement.
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Any particular reason why you're calling me nutty? I merely responded to another question asking if there was any pending gun legislation.
Heard this morning on FOX that he lost a baby about 3 years ago as it was born premature. The state police guy said they have an inkling that the baby dying was what set him off.
good post.
I was shoked to see the two men on fox and friends talking like two san francisco liberals.
Turns out 100% of the media is ignorant about second amendment rights and any common sense about firearms and reality in general.
They have the perfect brains for Muzak radio.
While you're at it, work on anti-knife legislation. After all, terrorists use them to behead people and we can't have the risk of knives falling into the wrong hands.
Didn't see those posts. Sorry and thanks.
Going postal in gun-free zones
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1574327/posts
School shootings have been stopped twice by private citizens with guns. But because the gummit doesn't trust good folks with guns around kids in schools only insane a**holes with guns are found around kids in schools.
Wasn't aimed at you;)
Just a reminder for new people posting today who missed yesterday's thread or have not read through 1600+ messages.
Yes. What wonderful photos. Thanks.
I've noticed that the posts are adding up so fast that it's just not possible to read through all of them and not spend hours doing it. Good idea.
I'm still not sure how many have died. GMA did a report from right there in Nickel Mines and said "5 children" have been killed.
Adding in the gunman and that's a total of 6 deaths, which is what the coroner said yesterday, erroneously, before any else had died in the hospitals.
They also said on GMA this morning that one little girl who had been unaccounted for had slipped out with her brother when the monster let the boys leave. Hurray for that little girl!
They've had problems identifying the children and their families, because the parents wouldn't go in the medevac choppers to the hospitals where children were. They were finally convinced to go in vans, but the wrong children were found to be with the wrong parents.
Evidently, there is also something about having images, so photos that were faxed had to be in color or something I didn't quite understand from the reporter. The parents left at the school wouldn't say whose children were whose from the faxes.
It must have been sorted out, if at least the little girl this morning had her parents with her. I understand, in a limited fashion, their huge privacy issues - I just wish some things could be overlooked for the sake of the children's lives and safety today.
I saw that it was in 1997, nine years ago.
But are you telling me that while these "Anabaptists" believe that it is immoral to defend themselves in a situation like this, they also believe that it is perfectly acceptable to call the police to come and offer to do the defending that they themselves are not willing to do?
Anabaptists are radical pacifists. They do not fight, they leave.
I am heartsick at what has happened here. The Amish ARE Lancaster. What has happened to them yesterday is especially hard, given their commitment to their way of life. My tears and prayers seem hardly adequate. If there is more I can do, I will. Their Congressman (Pitts), is my old science teacher. I will ask if there is something more that can be done for the families.
Something tells me this shooter was a major pervert. Not sure what, but my pervert radar is going off has been ever since hearing he held a grudge for 20 years( which I doubt, just points to him being a liar a perv hallmark), he targeted young girls, and his wife is speaking out favorably in his behalf.
We need to quit using the word "tragedy" in these cases. This was an ATROCITY!!!!
The grandfather of a 6 yo victim is requesting that people of all faiths remember them and all families involved, including the shooter's, in prayer.
It's perfectly possible. Romans 13 has much to say about governing authorities and being subject to them. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to not interfere when the government is administring justice or fulfilling what they consider is its responsibility. I'm NOT saying that is it for sure, but it could be interpreted that way from Scripture.
The other thing is, as I understand it, it was one person who called the police. I don't know if that is a reflection of the philosophy of the whole community or not. Even if she acted on her own in violation of that, once the police were called, they were involved.
I agree. I don't think there was a grudge either. He could never have any reason to do something like this though. No excuses. We all have bad things happen but we don't go around killing little children. I also don't believe that this wonderful person woke up and just decided to kill.
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