The Dubrovnik and Bosnia-Hercegovina Deception

Don’t feel bad, Piytar: the fog is thick over the Balkans.
See this Croat’s remark

http://croatiancrescent.blogspot.com/2008_12_01_archive.html

“When I visited Montenegro, I spoke Croatian with the lady that sold me an ice cream. She said: “You speak nice Serbian”. I felt very proud, but at the same time I wondered: Who is crazy here? If the lady listens to her government, next time she should tell me: “You speak nice Montenegrin”. My CV is getting longer and longer.”

It’s better than bilocation. More angels now fit onto the head of every pin. One person can now thanks to the New World Order simultaneously speak Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, Montenegrin, Vojvodinian.

Radio Telefis Eireann broadcasts in Irish, but not in a single standard dialect. Each news reader speaks his own dialect. It’s all Irish. Could the the Irish be sane?

Tovarish Stipe Mesic, more than once I have been told by people who knew him when he was young, USED TO BE VERY HANDSOME. This time it was the duckling who was beautiful and grew up to be the swan. My remark is not intended as an argument against Stipe’s ideas. That would be a logical fallacy. It’s simply an aesthetic judgment AD HOMINEM. Now, a logically impeccable argument AD REM:

One of my espionage agents who knew the lovely duckling before he moulted says that he and his family were quite the opportunists and BIG communists in Tito Times. Stipe and family touted themselves with Soviet Russian moniker as “comrade” —TOVARISH.

Dio, you are correct about the Montenegrin boonie goons' drunken orgy of plunder up the southern coast. And quite right about the no "30,000 Ustasha" as well. So far, all factual. But only so far.

I think the above-mentioned Montenegrin rampage had a lot more to do with having a manufactured excuse to go on a grand progressive pillage party than it had to do with any "Greater Serbian Project". Free booze and VCRs and lots of smashing stuff up. Yee-ha.

And this has nothing to do with the outrageous propaganda campaign about the supposed destruction of the Old City by SFRY naval forces during the Siege of Dubrovnik. Nor does it have to do with what happened to all the Dalmatians, moderate Croats, Serbs and other folks persecuted by nationalist Croats well before and after.

Serbs, for a long time, believed that the “truth” would prevail as events unfolded in the Balkans at the beginning of the 1990s. One day it will.

I used to think there would be a more objective analysis of the whole 1990s mess in the Balkans about 20 years after it ended. Now, I think it will take much longer.

Why? The further entrenchment of the idea that questioning the current biased, inaccurate and overblown view is tantamount to being a Holocaust denier. Based on these (usually unstated) absurd equations: Serbs=Nazis and Srebrenica=Auschwitz.

It was a bloody three-way civil war, but for some reason we must recast it as a mini-WWII. Serbs play the part of the Nazis, Croats play the part of the Brits and "Free French," and the Muslims play the part of the Jews.

I used to think of it being recast as a cowboy movie by the media: Croats in white hats, Serbs in black hats, Muslims as school marms tied to the railroad track. But when you think of the language and imagery used by the media, it's really portrayed more as a mini-WWII.

Those were Vlachs, not Serbs. That is why the document guaranteeing their rights was called the Statorum Valachorum. They were Serbianized at the end of the 19th century. Secondly, the Vojna Krajina always had a Croatian majority population...the Vlachs were brought in to fill the gaps.

Wow! An excellent point:)

What about the privileges from the previous rulers such as Ferdinand I(1538), Mathias Corvin(1481), Sigismund(1404, 1428), Vladislav II and II, Queen Beatrix and Anna? Vladislai and Matyas colonised all together 300, 000 Serbs in Hungariae to fight agains the Turks? Even King Matyas wrote to the pope Sixtus on few occasions about that. The Vienna and Graz archive are loaded with paperwork about the Serbs.
In those documents they mentioned the Serbs(Servianos, Rascianos)? Ferdinand’s ambassador to Porta Mr Busbecquii(”Turskish Letters”c) writes in the 1550’s that the Serbs live all the way to Drava river. What about the 1604 special document that was published by the Jesuit scholar Nicolaus Nilles about the colonisation of the Serbs in Slavonia?

The document was issued by Dvorska ugarska kancelarija?
What can we do about the tombstone in the Franciscan monastery in Zadar where a catholic Serb was burried(Serviani, Zovinichio). Croatian historian Grga Novak published a report(1572) by the Dalmatian general providur Foscarini in 1964(JAZU, Zagreb) where the providur calls the population along the Bosnian border on the Turskih side “Morlacchi de fede serviana”(Morlaci srpske vjere)?
How about the special povelja of Vladislav Posmrtni, he mentiones the Serbs in Zagreb, Kalnik, Koprivnica in 1447? Bogavac Milakovic was a Serbs that governed Zagrebacko polje in 1450’s as Ivan Tkalcic published a document(Monumenta Zagrabiae). And there is also a mention of the Serbs.

The emperor Leopold I, againg calls those people the Serbs. Maria Theresia’s minister Bartenstein writes about the Serbs. Croatian historian Adami Balthasari Kerschelich writes in his history of the Zagreb Church(1770) that the Serb Uskokse emigrated to Lika, Udbina, along the river Kupa in the 16th century. There’s far to many sources to destroy your argument about the Vlachs. :)

The Vlachs are based in Istria today and they called themselves “Rumeri” and spoke “lingua Rumer” a few centuries ago. The italian historian De Croce writes about this in his history of Trieste publish at the end of the 17th century. They are the real Vlachs, or the Aromunians. Nicola Jurisic, the Croatian nobleman wrote to King Ferdinand and separated the Serbs from the Vlachs, as they call them the old Romans(Alt-Romer). They indeed moved up to Vojna krajina, sometimes with the Serbs, sometis separate and they decided to go to Istria. But they preserved their own language even today, whilst the Serbs speak stokavian not a Romance language as the best Croatian expert on the romance languages Petar Skok wrote that the Croatian Serbs do not have anything Vlach or Roman in their speech!

I rest my case.:)

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