Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
| > Its an ALL or NOTHING deal, Non-Seq. > So you say. But nothing in Justice Gray's opinion Sure he does. Again, it's there as CLEAR as CLEAR can be:
“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.” Justice Gray turned to Blackstone to ascertain the meaning of "Natural Born Subject," did he not?
What was Justice Gray ruling on, anyway? Does Wong Kim Ark even apply? Was Wong Kim Ark running for President? And was Justice Gray ruling upon the definition of “Natural Born Citizen,” ESPECIALLY in the context of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5? ... just trying to be nice and offer you an Exit Door, Non-Seq. |
Some of us challenge birther claims because we believe the incorrect information damages the credibility of FR as a whole.
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Ahem .... if this is a subject you truly find that damaging to the place, as you claim (along with others feigning the same disingenuous protectiveness) one would expect that these threads would be the very LAST place to which you’d be drawn like a magnet as you are, just like regular folks avoid situations they find irksome and disagreeable to them in their real lives.
I’m sure the boss here would love to know all your efforts to protect the place so he could acknowledge and thank you.
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“...because we see illogical conclusions and/or total delusion running rampant at FR.”
If there is something ‘running rampant,’ you’re sure not a bystander.
You might just consider that to be *your* interpretation of a difference of opinion regarding Constitutional integrity and survival.
| I know what I like to do with my free time, sit at dailykos or DU and mess with people I have nothing in common with LOL! What is NOT a CONSPIRACY THEORY in the slightest is the FACT that of all the people Obama has LIED to the MOST, it is own Liberal Base.
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Biggest faggot I’ve ever seen.
I especially like the suit. It protects you from those females.
Has Barney Frank got the key?
You’re right. If a Birther snagged an old boot, it would be one that belonged to Obama and floated here from Kenya....
parsy, who is locking up his old boots
The claim that they are protecting FR is a false one.
To: pissant
Release the long form!
131 posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 8:28:17 PM by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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I tried to warn you about the Blackstone. When are you going to learn to (Ask Parsy before you leap!)
parsy, who is groaning again.
You feel better now? Geez, I can't believe I am responding to such idiocy.
All that only applies if the thing is presented in Court, and if it really has a raised seal and appropriate signature. Since it was only after folks pointed out the lack of a seal that, lo and behold, one appeared, hyper-visible, in the Fart Check photos, we can surely be forgiven for doubting the reality of that raised seal. Not to mention other "irregularities, in the information, such as BHO, the father's race as African, rather than the expected (in 1961) "Negro".
Watch your step, I don’t take kindly to being called an idiot.
There’s a huge difference between moving an elderly, infirm person suffering from severe osteophorosis around on the seat of a walker for a short distance - in a church or anywhere - or using that same walker as a means of wheeled transportation on an ocean liner on a three-week cruise.
A walking aid is not a wheel chair. And from the account of Eleanor Nordyke, Madelyn was supposedly on the cruise on her own.
I asked if your relative also made the cruise you described alone, or did she have someone with her? But you declined to answer.
More like the 14th Amendment.
... just trying to be nice and offer you an Exit Door, Non-Seq.
No need to. I'm just sitting back and watching you foam at the mouth. Most amusing.
I asked if your relative also made the cruise you described alone, or did she have someone with her? But you declined to answer.
She took the cruise with her daughter who is NOW using the same walker/chair due to a hip injury.
Still want to keep debating this ridiculous issue? I never said it was used as a wheel-chair all the time, I merely said it can be if need be. Geez
At least, unlike the image of the CoLB, that one has been entered into evidence in a Court. They didn’t look at it, but was entered evidence.
I feel your pain!
parsy, who buzzes
Actually, not. They generally are, but it is not required.
from http://www.uscourts.gov/faq.html:
Q: What are the qualifications for becoming a federal judge?
The Constitution sets forth no specific requirements. However, members of Congress, who typically recommend potential nominees, and the Department of Justice, which reviews nominees' qualifications, have developed their own informal criteria.
Or from the Federal Judicial Center
What are the qualifications for becoming a federal judge?
Although there are almost no formal qualifications for federal judges, there are some strong informal ones. For example, while magistrate judges and bankruptcy judges are required by statute to be lawyers, there is no statutory requirement that district judges, circuit judges, or Supreme Court justices be lawyers. But it would be unheard-of for a president to nominate someone who is not a lawyer. Before their appointment, most judges were private attorneys, but many were judges in state courts or other federal courts. Some were government attorneys and a few were law professors.
Obviously, the entire point of the issue has passed you by. Eleanor Nordyke describes spending time with Madelyn on a three week cruise in 2002, when, Eleanor claims, Madelyn told her that her grandson was a ‘social worker’ - he wasn’t, he was a SENATOR!
And Madelyn, in 2002, would have been dependant on her walking aid to get around. Do you believe SHE would have been able to get around an ocean liner for three weeks, on her own, dependant on that walking aid, which could be used to move her physically, sitting down...? And WHO was going to help her around the ship in that condition?
I don’t give a STUFF about your elderly church goers, or your mother enjoying a cruise (accompanied by a relative) -
THE POINT IS THAT THE NORDYKE WOMAN’S STORY DOESN’T STAND THE SMELL TEST!
I feel your pain! parsy, who buzzes
Oh, I can’t help myself. BP2, you got a picture and caption for one who is so drugged up they are now feeling imaginary pain?
beats a forgery manipulated and photographed by factcheck doesn't it?
You better watch yourself! He found “Blackstone” and is going to give us all heck over it. I would try to teach him things more often, but whenever I take the time to prepare some sort of legal explanation for him, he just responds by posting pictures of monkeys. It gets tiring.
Four paragraph legal explanation-—monkey picture
Twelve paragraph detailed language from case -—monkey picture
etc.
parsy, who is hooting and shaking branches
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