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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: nicmarlo

Except that He placed His GODHOOD on the shelf for His duration on Earth.

Besides, the LAW said 2 or 3 witnesses.

Did they all not walk away?


3,121 posted on 08/14/2012 4:02:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nicmarlo

Except that He placed His GODHOOD on the shelf for His duration on Earth.

Oops, the above statement is wrong.


3,122 posted on 08/14/2012 4:03:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nicmarlo
But many are found in the Christian churches and also right here on this thread.

But that fact does not nullify the power of the Scriptures; does it?

3,123 posted on 08/14/2012 4:04:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nicmarlo
You aren’t even worthy to call yourself an apprentice of either Paul or Peter.

Dang!

That seems a bit, uh, judgemental.

How about Apollo, then?

3,124 posted on 08/14/2012 4:06:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Norm Lenhart
And they can burn with it. I hope they get EXACTLY what they vote for. They are what their actions define them as.

Give us BARABBAS!!

3,125 posted on 08/14/2012 4:09:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: arasina
Cute!
3,126 posted on 08/14/2012 4:11:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlackElk

Did you ever vote for any other candidate with even a speck of permissiveness towards abortion? If so didn’t you also incur the implied damnation there, even if the candidate’s opponent would have led to a worse abortion situation than the candidate did?

I’m not telling you about what Protestants say. Pick up a bible and read it and you’ll get the gist of that. I’m telling you what other serious Catholics say. They don’t believe God countenances the stupid situation where only the perfect may get a Christian’s secular nod, leading to the worse of two bad alternatives prevailing.


3,127 posted on 08/14/2012 4:12:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Elsie

Isn’t it a bit late to clamor to Pilate for Jesus to be released after that little dust up in Jerusalem? I guess one could write Jesus Christ in on the ballot. That’s permitted. But that’s not how the government will get to be upon his shoulders.


3,128 posted on 08/14/2012 4:16:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Elsie

The Mormon system seems hopelessly confused. Or maybe I just don’t comprehend a religion that has people growing into capital G God. It sounds like a half hearted attempt at what pantheism preaches unabashedly.

Anyhow, surely there are standards that God is supposed to live up to? Like those that most religions of the civilized world ascribe to righteous deity? Mitt sure did a lousy job of that in Mass. Maybe he’s got better ideas this time around, I hope he does. I get the sense that Mitt isn’t taking Mormon theology in full seriousness in spite of his elevated position in the organization. He’d surely have stated an intention to name another Mormon as veep if he did take it that seriously.


3,129 posted on 08/14/2012 4:25:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: arasina
We have our OWN Holocaust to face up to...


 
 
 
...these exceptions do not justify abortion automatically.
It “should be considered only after the persons responsible have consulted with their bishops and received divine confirmation through prayer.” 
...Is there any hope for the person who has participated in the act of abortion? Is there any hope for those who have so sinned and who now suffer heartbreak? The answer is yes!
 ( https://itsaboutlove.org/ial/ct/eng/site/pregnant/what-are-my-options/abortion/the-lds-perspective/ )
 
Oh?  But what about:
 
...abortion is akin to murder... ( http://latterdaycommentary.com/2012/04/21/does-a-fetus-have-a-right-to-life/ )...
 
...and we KNOW the MORMON postion on Jesus' abilities to forgive the sin of MURDER!

3,130 posted on 08/14/2012 4:30:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I would but the comparison between the homos and their “pride” and the Romney fanatics and theirs needs to be shown.

DISCONNECT ALERT!!


http://www.mitchmayne.com/

3,131 posted on 08/14/2012 4:32:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nicmarlo
Judging is not Christ-like. It is forbidden.

You are wrong.


Judge NOT???
 
Sigh............
 

 
Jesus has commanded us to judge!
 

“Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).


Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.


“But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us” (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

“And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother” (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

“Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself” (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

“Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple” (Romans 16:17,18).


All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep’s skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.


 “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.  (John 7:24).

3,132 posted on 08/14/2012 4:33:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sf4dubya
Actually, I gave you the answer, silly neophyte. Your brain just didn’t process it for whatever reason.

You are not keen on responding to what a poster has actually said, are you? You make things up, repeatedly.
3,133 posted on 08/14/2012 4:55:19 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
Where are you getting this stuff?

Calvinosaurus: The Spirit World








3,134 posted on 08/14/2012 4:55:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nicmarlo
This site has become a shameful display of vitriol and phony conservatism.

I am a MORMON!




3,135 posted on 08/14/2012 4:59:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo; Tennessee Nana
A married couple was celebrating their 60th wedding anniversary among friends. Many wanted to know how they managed to stay married for so long.

"Tell me," one guest asked the Mrs, "Did you ever consider divorce?"

The Mrs replied: "Divorce, no. Murder, yes."

3,136 posted on 08/14/2012 5:00:08 AM PDT by Liz
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To: is_is
he’s not my pastor.....

I guess that makes it ok to exalt a deceived (or a deceiving) MORMON to the Highest position in the land.

3,137 posted on 08/14/2012 5:02:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo
You’re a far cry better than the other english major I’ve encountered on this thread.

Hoosier is my first language: English my second...

3,138 posted on 08/14/2012 5:05:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GlockThe Vote; cripplecreek

“Nothing would ever satisfy the ABR crowd.”

...and EVERYTHING satisfies the ABO crowd.


3,139 posted on 08/14/2012 5:08:37 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: 92nina
Just starting on Free Republic, but eager to take the fight to the Progressives and Dems.

GO for it!!



3,140 posted on 08/14/2012 5:12:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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