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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: sf4dubya

the religion of the candidate should not be a big issue,

Religious bigotism is very, very dangerous for conservatives
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Youre OK with a Moslem president then ???

and you jump on those FReepers who diss Obama for his religious leanings ???

Ramadan in the White House and and the Moslem Brotherhood in the State department are OK with you ???


4,201 posted on 08/16/2012 7:55:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: BlueDragon

NO, no, no!

The GT model!

No ‘trunk’, 4 cylinder, under powered, looks like a 69 ‘vet that shrank in the rain


4,202 posted on 08/16/2012 7:57:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sf4dubya
If that non-Jewish person at the time of his or her death believes G-d’s laws to be true, then they are righteous and have their share.

WOW!

THIS sure is easy!

4,203 posted on 08/16/2012 7:59:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

“....I guess some of these mormonism defenders are not aware that their own denomination is and has been scorned in temple rituals and chapel sermons by hundreds of thousands of mormons, including Mitt Romney who took part in these rituals prior to 1990..
***I don’t think the mormonism defending poster who wrote that sentence would qualify as someone in a ‘denomination’ because she is jewish.


4,204 posted on 08/16/2012 7:59:45 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya
I hold every single politician accountable for their actions, not their words.

Fantastic, then you are not supporting Romney because his actions are pro abortion, pro homosexual agenda, pro man made global warming, pro big government, pro government mandates, pro gun grabs..........

Just wish others could see as clearly as you do that actions speak louder than words.

4,205 posted on 08/16/2012 8:00:17 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: sf4dubya
My opinion: If the Religion forums are causing this much strife among conservatives and cannot mirror our own First Ammendment, then they need to go.

If your freedom of speech causes so much problems; then shut up.

4,206 posted on 08/16/2012 8:00:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ArrogantBustard
you have redeemed what was otherwise a real sewer of a thread.

And we try SO hard to get the MORMONs and ABO folks to clean up their act, too.

4,207 posted on 08/16/2012 8:01:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

THIS sure is easy!
***If it’s true, then there was no reason for Jesus to fulfill the law and die for our sins, right? Something doesn’t add up, no sirree. I doubt Jesus got it so wrong.


4,208 posted on 08/16/2012 8:02:22 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
***Except that what is going on here isn’t religious bigotism (bigotry).

Half of it is; not from the side that the bigots CLAIM, though.

4,209 posted on 08/16/2012 8:03:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sf4dubya
I hold every single politician accountable for their actions, not their words.

Good for you.

GOD will judge their every idle word.

4,210 posted on 08/16/2012 8:04:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sf4dubya

I hold every single politician accountable for their actions, not their words.
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Like Nero, your boy Wee Willie fiddles while Rome burns...

NBo comment on gays in the military..
No comment on gays in US military uniform in a gay pride parades..
No comment or participartion in the Chik-Fil-A Day..
No commednt about the Moslem Brotherhood in top level positions at the State department
No comment about a million illegal aliens lining up to get illegal AMNESTY..
and so on...

America is burning but the TWO time draft dodger is dodging any responsibility again..


4,211 posted on 08/16/2012 8:04:11 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: sf4dubya
I hold every single politician accountable for their actions, not their words.

Good for you.

Now buy you wife some choclates, and after giving them to her say, "You sure look fat today!"

4,212 posted on 08/16/2012 8:05:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Just an observation but Ive never noticed people spouting Mormonism in Free Republic, and I read FR all day every day for the last 14 years. I only notice folks who preach the dangers of Mormonism. Occasionaly I see a Mormon post a very subdued reference to their experience as a Mormon not being what others are saying here. Actually I’m surprised their posts are so subdued.

Of course I may have missed some Mormon posts but I sure haven’t seen proseltyzing by Mormons here.

Just speaking for myself I tend to view anyone who tries to spout their religion as the only one as a fool, unless they happen to share in my Roman Catholicism which is the one true, holy and apostolic Church of Jesus Christ. Not exactly a sarcasm but meant as a lesson.


4,213 posted on 08/16/2012 8:07:22 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Kevmo
I don’t think the mormonism defending poster who wrote that sentence would qualify as someone in a ‘denomination’ because she is jewish.

Maybe not, however I doubt she is aware that mormons consider Jews to be "gentiles". ;0)

4,215 posted on 08/16/2012 8:12:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Williams

bkmk


4,216 posted on 08/16/2012 8:13:00 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Williams; Elsie

Just an observation but Ive never noticed people spouting Mormonism in Free Republic
***Well if anyone can point you to it, it’s Elsie.

You’ve got an impressive 1997 signup date. Color me envious. I was lurking at the time, wondering what could happen to this group. I was so sure that Clintoon was going to audit all of us that my first login name was “don’t wanna be audited”. I know it sounds paranoid today, but it at the time the fear was palpable.


4,217 posted on 08/16/2012 8:13:39 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

Go convert Romney to whatever flavor of Christianity you approve of
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As a Jew are you OK with the fact that Mormons dead dunk Jews who were victims of the Holocaust into Mormonism ???

are you OK with te fact that Willard himself admits to participating in dead dunking ???

Personally Im not OK that some of my own Christian ancestors have been dead dunked, endowed, ans sealed to all theoir then living descendants (including me) making me a full temple Mormon also..

(Since the process is qwell validated by Mormons that makes me qualified to speak about Mormonism)

Is it OK with you that Jewish leaders have for years begged the Morm ons to quitt dead dunking the Jewish victims of the Holocaust ???

What do you think of the fact that along with the victims Adolph Hitler is also now a dead dunked Mormon ???

BTW there is no way to reverse the dead dunking...

The dead cannot be excommunicated from Mormonism..

BTW I cant “convert” anyone into any religion...


4,218 posted on 08/16/2012 8:16:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: greyfoxx39

I doubt she is aware that mormons consider Jews to be “gentiles”. ;0)
***I can see why — they act along similar paths of denial, obfuscation, lashing out, deflection, and disingenuousness when presented with the facts behind the gospel of Jesus Christ. Of course, by that definition, mormons would be gentiles. ;-)


4,219 posted on 08/16/2012 8:16:43 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Williams; Jeff Head

Just an observation but Ive never noticed people spouting Mormonism in Free Republic
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Youve never read Jeff’s posts ???


4,220 posted on 08/16/2012 8:20:06 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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