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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Tennessee Nana; sf4dubya
I don't think sf4dubya quite understands that in Mormonism every member is a missionary.

They tried to turn FR into their very own mission field. It looks like they were quite successful too. I know a few freepers who actually joined the LDS Church. It seems there are a few Jews who think the CoJoLDS is quite a spiffy organization too.

That is precisely WHY we feel the need to speak up here.

4,241 posted on 08/16/2012 10:02:11 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Jim Robinson

Understood, thanks for the reply/clarification.


4,242 posted on 08/16/2012 10:06:06 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: sf4dubya

I can’t find the conservatism in you, you keep ranting about Mormons when the post was about abortion, Reagan, and presidential candidate Mitt Romney, and it touched on 50 years of history, things that you did not know.

Mitt wasn’t taking money FROM Planned Parenthood, he was fund raising for them, and giving money to them.

You aren’t reading the posts to you, and you totally ignored my post, to keep harping on religion, you seem incapable of reading posts and understanding them, you merely go back to the same narrow repetitions, and attacking of conservatives and freerepublic.

This sing-song trolling and baiting that you are doing for days now, with no real politics, or conservatism, or conversation with anyone, seems to indicate some sort of mental issue.


4,243 posted on 08/16/2012 10:09:23 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Religion Moderator

You earned them stripes RM.

SZ


4,244 posted on 08/16/2012 10:12:50 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: greyfoxx39

I ignored this statement on purpose and I see you rec’d the expected reply.


4,245 posted on 08/16/2012 10:18:44 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Kevmo
I don’t think the mormonism defending poster who wrote that sentence would qualify as someone in a ‘denomination’ because she is jewish.

I see, then to Mormons, she's just another Gentile, as are all non Mormons, of course after she is dead, chances are great that she too will become a Mormon by dead dunking..

4,246 posted on 08/16/2012 10:21:38 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: Elsie

Spare me the sanctimony. Your behaviour on this forum disgusts me.


4,248 posted on 08/16/2012 10:31:12 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sf4dubya
Once again, holding Reagan accountable for his ACTION of signing the Therapeutic Abortion Act was a huge issue for the pro life movement, and worked to rehab him in his Presidency with much success.

With a conservative majority Congress writing legislation, I highly doubt Romney would be widely different than Reagan or GW Bush on the pro life issue.

One might think you had been here long enough to know what very thin ice you're on, in comparing M.R. favorably to R.R.

The two shouldn't even be mentioned together in the same reply, there's just no comparison that could possibly put M.R. in a good light. M.R. is the epitome of liberalism while R.R. was the shining light of conservatism.

4,250 posted on 08/16/2012 10:34:21 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: Kevmo

“***I didn’t see that at all. They were invariably true conservatives. It was a small website. The republican loyalists didn’t start showing up until the 2000 election.”

Then I will go with what you say. I didn’t start lurking at FR until after the 2000 election. However, I am conservative first, Republican next. Also, although I am primarily a SOCON and National Defense conservative, I am fiscally conservative because it is the “right” thing to do. You don’t spend more money than you make...whether you are an individual or a government. And you don’t keep “taxing and spending” as the old mantra went!

Anyway, my point is that I hold to all three legs. I keep encountering folks here that are really only “fiscal” conservatives....and I question if they even have that right.


4,251 posted on 08/16/2012 10:43:36 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: greyfoxx39

I follow latest posts every day and I’ve read a lot of religious debates. I can’t say that I’ve seen on FR a phenomenon of people pushing the Mormon religion. I’ve read many posts attacking the Mormon religion.

The times I got involved in the Religious forum, it was always an article warning about Mormonism.

Just letting you know my observations. There could be a zillion pro mormon posts but then again the reaction of the typical consumer is often valid. As a constant consumer of FR I’m aware of a trend to express concern about Mormonism. It’s definitely not my issue.


4,252 posted on 08/16/2012 10:50:18 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: sf4dubya

Vote your conscience and belief.
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Finally some words appear Conservative...

My conscience and belief dictate that I not vote for the Godless immoral pro-abortion liberal Willard...

and thats what this thread is all about...


4,253 posted on 08/16/2012 10:50:37 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Kevmo

Re: your earlier concern about being audited by the democrat devils. I think today a valid screen name would be “Don’t want to be euthanized by the democrats”. They’ll still audit you as well.


4,254 posted on 08/16/2012 10:52:22 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: sf4dubya

Wow.
Thank you so very much for making my day, you have validated my point religion is an issue.
You wont vote for a Jew but will vote for a Mormon, strictly based on what they believe.


4,256 posted on 08/16/2012 10:54:21 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: sf4dubya
I was a Mormon for 45 years, I suppose you just want me to STHU so that Mormons can keep telling the lies they told me. You want me to just continue letting them distort their history, their dogma, their intentions, so that they can continue proselyting to Freepers unabated with no interference.

Are you serious? What is a Jew to do when confronted with a lie that might harm others?

4,257 posted on 08/16/2012 10:57:11 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Graybeard58

“The two shouldn’t even be mentioned together in the same reply, there’s just no comparison that could possibly put M.R. in a good light. M.R. is the epitome of liberalism while R.R. was the shining light of conservatism.”

Agreed. For conservatives today, that were adults when Ronald Reagan was POTUS, he is considered the Best POTUS the republic every had! If it weren’t “conservative blasphemy”, I would actually laugh at somone that would dare to compare Myth with Ronald Reagan.


4,258 posted on 08/16/2012 10:57:17 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: sf4dubya
Romney actually signed legislation against pro abortion

Source?

And how would that reconcile with his pride in free to $50 abortion in RomneyCare.

4,259 posted on 08/16/2012 10:58:33 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: sf4dubya

What anti-abortion legislation did Romney sign?
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None

and he wont...

Hes lifelong pro-abortion...

He swore to “sustain” Roe V Wade as “the law of the land” and to “uphold and protect the right of a woman to have an abortion”

as a Mormon to “sustain” is equal to a blood oath...

and dont worry about parents stopping their underage children from having an abortion...

Your boy Wee Willie had that one covered...

He wanted judges to overrule parental authority...

Yes Willard wont be signing any “anti-abortion legislation” any time soon...


4,260 posted on 08/16/2012 11:01:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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