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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: fabian

Just keep up the leftist type of tactics of bringing up the past
***Also known as his record.

I like Ryan a lot too and he will have a good influence on Romney.
***Good luck with that. Ryan is already folding.
Ryan downplays his signature issue on campaign trail
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2919973/posts

thinking you are being storing in your beliefs. Sort of immature actually.
***Good luck in being weak in your beliefs. You’ll have nothing to hold onto now that you’ve tossed them. Not very mature.


4,961 posted on 08/17/2012 10:20:51 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

When did you become anti-Christian?


4,962 posted on 08/17/2012 10:21:04 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: zeebee

OMG!

Romney and Obama should have a lying contest. Romney would definitely win as the biggest liar in the republican party.

He said:

1. I saw my father marching with Martin Luther King.

It never happened. He did not even have to say that. He lied for no reason.

2. I was a severe conservative.

He’s never been a conservative. Ever.

3. Ronald Reagan was pro-choice.

That is one of the biggest, most vile lies the man has told because Reagan was no longer alive to defend his memory against that lie. Romney did it so people would excuse his own belief that women have the right to murder their babies and that govt. should protect that so called “right.”

4. Gay marriage is Massachusetts was the fault of the Massachusetts Supreme Court.

Out and out lie. The Court did not have that kind of power and they stated so in their decision. They turned it over to the Massachusetts legislature that refused to act. So Mitt took it upon himself to order the clerks and the justices of the peace to allow gays to marry or he would fire them. The gays biggest supporters, the Court and the legislature did not have the nerve to do anything this vile. Romney did but figured he could get away with blaming the court. He continues to do so to this day.

I’m sure there are many more lies such as Romney lying about and using support from a certain pro-life organization that honored him for his monetary contribution, saying they supported his position on abortion, which was a huge lie.

As the situation with the lie about his father marching with King, Romney lies when the truth would serve him better. Romney is an inveterate, pathological liar. He can’t help himself.

Yes, I know. Obama lies too. That is the truth. But you are the one being deceived by Romney. You need a dose of the truth.


4,963 posted on 08/17/2012 10:21:51 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: fabian
to believe a man that he has changed his heart.

He'll even change his hair color to get your vote, naive and immature voter that you are.

You on the other hand can not let him be change

YOU can't change him and neither can I - the man doesn't want to be changed!! He's 65 and been this way all his life - so stop your baby ways! It's like the abusive wife syndrome!

You don't get to speak for me and what I resent or don't!! Get it, immature gullible naive voter.

You really need this...

You NEED this... a powerful word 'woe'!!

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter".

4,964 posted on 08/17/2012 10:22:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SoConPubbie

hogwash..I admitted to plenty of wrong by Romney...in the past! And I wish and hope he will say his romneycare was wrong! But I am no fool and see that we have something to fight with with Mitt..., and he was not my first choice at all, I voted for someone else! But we will have no nation left with Obama again...none. It will be taken over by communist totally. You guys are foolish..very foolish. Wake up.


4,965 posted on 08/17/2012 10:26:19 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

I am conservative enough to believe a man that he has changed his heart.
***Believe the liar all you want. It is not conservative to be gullible. There is no evidence of a changed heart, only evidence of his strong desire to be president. He’ll say anything to get it, and he’s counting on stupid ‘conservatives’ like you to pull the lever for liberalism.


4,966 posted on 08/17/2012 10:27:59 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: fabian
I am voting for who the people have

DEAD FISH always go with the flow.

nominated

NO ONE has been nominated so far. The simplest things you can't even get right!

4,967 posted on 08/17/2012 10:30:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: fabian
hogwash..I admitted to plenty of wrong by Romney...in the past! And I wish and hope he will say his romneycare was wrong! But I am no fool and see that we have something to fight with with Mitt..., and he was not my first choice at all, I voted for someone else! But we will have no nation left with Obama again...none. It will be taken over by communist totally. You guys are foolish..very foolish. Wake up.

Nope, the only ones foolish are those willing to be manipulated by Fear and the GOP-E by their latest Evil Democrat incarnation and their "This is the most Important Election Ever!" mantra while pushing a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal and pushing the GOP way left.

You are being led over the clift of eventual destruction of the GOP by the Pied-Piper (the GOP-E).

However, given your propensity to ignore everything that is wrong about Romney, I sincerely doubt you are a serious conservative, but more like a Republican Party over Principle conservative or a fair-weather conservative.


4,968 posted on 08/17/2012 10:33:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: fabian
I like Ryan a lot too and he will have a good influence on Romney.

So much for your knowledge of one bad apple spoiling the rest. He already spoiled the GOP!

4,969 posted on 08/17/2012 10:34:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: fabian
Ryan...will have a good influence on Romney


4,970 posted on 08/17/2012 10:36:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: fabian

You believe a known liar. A liar who says he has changed but his actions say he has not changed. Go to that website I provided for you. I dare you. Read the truth about your socialist liar.

Oh by the way, the leftists believe in ignoring the past. Just look at the Marxist in the race. Obama refuses to even let anyone see the past. You just keep on running from Mitt’s past, ignoring the truth. Just like Mitt and the GOP-e want you to do. They want you to be ignorant. They want you to be dull witted because then, they can keep pulling the wool over your eyes.

You can keep shutting yourself off to the truth and be a good little brainwashed zombie republican. Just like Obama has his brainless zombies. Or you can open your eyes and see the truth right in front of your face.

Ronald Reagan said trust but verify. You trust Romney? You’d do well to verify what he is saying.


4,971 posted on 08/17/2012 10:36:40 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: fabian
But I am no fool and see that we have something to fight with with Mitt

Yes are you are - with your constant covering his pro abortion stance in spite of evidence given to you to the contrary! Which you should have known already!

4,972 posted on 08/17/2012 10:40:10 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: fabian

But we will have no nation left with Obama again...none
***Same bowlsheet arguments over & over & over again. Fear mongering. Proceeding from that fear in cowardice to make your decision. Then expecting principled conservatives to yield their principles just because you’re a freeping coward.


4,973 posted on 08/17/2012 10:45:10 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: fabian

I look to Ryan more than Romney actually.
***Good luck with that. Ryan is already folding.

Ryan downplays his signature issue on campaign trail
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2919973/posts

Besides, it’s obvious from your several latest posts on this thread that you’re a troll, whoring for Romnuts.


4,974 posted on 08/17/2012 10:59:11 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: fabian
You guys are foolish..very foolish. Wake up


4,975 posted on 08/17/2012 11:00:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: presently no screen name

Don’t give me your bs...I have made it clear that he was not my first choice..but you guys cannot forgive him for his very weak past on abortion and that is making you all look really immature. The bible says to be wise as a serpent but harmless as a dove. I know what that means. You do not. I will vote for America’s fighting chance., not my stubborn self thinking I am being all principled. Stupid.


4,976 posted on 08/17/2012 11:01:49 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Kevmo

Coward has nothing to do with being wise here. As I said..you guys sound immature and reactionary. Sorry you don’T want to see that.
BTW, I voted for Newt in the primary here in Ca. as I felt he was stronger for sure.


4,977 posted on 08/17/2012 11:08:50 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

Coward has nothing to do with being wise here.
***It is not wise to be cowardly.


4,978 posted on 08/17/2012 11:11:53 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: fabian
I am being all principled


4,979 posted on 08/17/2012 11:13:40 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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Liars and Mormonism defenders place markers.
I grow very tied of people who defend Mormonism and lying.


4,980 posted on 08/17/2012 11:15:32 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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