Posted on 06/17/2013 5:42:11 PM PDT by grundle
More beautiful and wise comments.
Thank you very much for your comments.
I don’t think you know just how dehumanizing your post is towards the boy in the picture and other severely disabled children.
I work with special needs kids all the time (Public school Teacher).
These kids don't want "special" treatment, they want simple consideration. These kids are thrilled to be able to participate in any activity that remotely resembles something the regular ed students do.
I wish I had a video of the Christmas Concert (Yes we call them that here in Virginia) where the SPED class did their version of "Jingle bell Rock" They brought the house down.
Would it really have been that difficult to have the kids move over to one side with the teacher standing next to him? Would it have been difficult to have a row of chairs in front with him him at one end or the other (The front row is all sitting)?
Since they were on bleachers, yes. It would have made his wheelchair just as obvious. Read the article. They reshot the picture with him on the bleachers and a "helper" holding him upright. How stupid. All they did was make him the focal point.
Again, this is superficial. How did the child feel? We have no idea.
Ping to post 161. It’s a very good post that will give you some insight.
The parents aren’t asking for their child to be singled out and made the center of attention. That’s what was inadvertently done with the class photo. They’re asking for people to stop doing that. Just include him as a member of the class.
If any other child was separated from the class, for having red hair, or being the son of outspoken conservatives, there would be an uproar. But somehow it’s acceptable to do this to a disabled kid, because he should get used to being treated that way. Sure, he should learn to deal with adversity, but the other children and adults should learn not to impose adversity on others just because they can. They need to learn that even people with disabilities deserve respect.
I’m glad that your MIL learned to deal with being bullied. I would hope that someone had a talk with the other kids about bullying. This kid will eventually learn that a segment of society rejects him because of his disability. I can’t blame his parents for trying to postpone that lesson. While he’s young, and developing what will probably be lifelong perceptions about people in general, it would be nice if he wasn’t segregated from his classmates. And it would be nice if the other kids were taught how treat each other with respect.
Tell me where it states how this child feels about the picture. Anywhere? At all?
If her siblings didn’t tease her or throw snowballs at her, why did you say they did? Sorry if I have a hard time keeping up with the changing story. Okay, so now they didn’t bully her.
U should read and the resrt of my posts on this thread what I was replying to before you jumped
I had not seen your post when I posted and when I did then I replied to you to clarify knowing you would see my braying and agreeing with you about the media reach out being improper
In any event amid all the bloodshed on this warm feeling thread I have just one last thing to emphatically proclaim
Teacher is most definitely NOT GUILTY!
When did you become a liberal infested with stupidity?
LOL!!
What is wrong with you? You described an incident of bullying, and used it as an example of how this kid should learn to deal with it like your mil did. Now you’re saying that she had to learn how to deal with her siblings playing with her? Well I guess I’m just too stupid to understand what is so bad about being played with, liked, and treated like an equal.
It was NOT bullying. That's a PC term. They were having a snowball fight and included her. When she whined her Father told her to fight back. It was a lesson that she needed to survive in the world. Bullying had NOTHING to do with it. She learned that she COULD do what her siblings did. Today that wouldn't happen. Her parents would be weeping about "bullying" and how cruel her brothers and sisters were. THAT was my point!
and treated like an equal.
She was and you're trying to paint it as being bullied.
In 1916 there was no PC crap. Did her siblings protect her? You bet! She died at the age of 88. Her sister was told to "take care of the baby" by their parents. Her sister died shortly after at age 103. She couldn't die until the "baby" did even though the "baby" had married, had children and taught school. The "baby" was never bullied. She was allowed to grow and flourish. She was NOT coddled. Almost 100 years later and PC stupidity flourishes and common sense has died.
My MiL saw herself as capable even though she had disabilities because her family treated her the way they did.
Where does it say this child in the picture felt that he wasn’t included?
PC is describing an incident of bullying, and then getting upset when somebody calls it bullying. Now you say they were playing “with” her, but that’s not what you said before. I was responding to what you said, that they teased her and threw snowballs at her, even though she was not fighting back. You said that she complained to the adults.
Now I’m sorry if the picture you painted of her being bullied and turning to the adults for help was not an accurate picture. I expected better from you. That won’t happen again.
I made the mistake of suggesting you read Egon’s post, because I thought you were one of the people who could get it. I don’t know how I could have been so wrong about you, but you don’t have to worry about me making that mistake again. You’ve made yourself crystal clear. You’re perfectly willing to change your story to suit whatever opinion or mood you’re embracing at the moment.
This kid doesn’t need to be toughened up and taught that he isn’t welcome among some people because of his disability. He will learn that soon enough. For right now, his parents have chosen to shield him from this. I once knew a man who thought he could bully his child out of stuttering. That didn’t work so well. And that is not the best approach in this situation either.
It may be appropriate to have a child stick up for herself in a snowball fight with her siblings... Not may be, but is appropriate. But that is in no way the same as this situation. In some ways, it is actually the opposite. Her siblings were including her. This is a case of a child being excluded. Can you see that? Or are you blinded by some unspoken agenda? Because if you are, that would explain why you flew off the handle at me for no reason.
Where did I say anything about how the child felt? That’s a straw man.
Well I did give you the benefit of the doubt. And you are right I should have seen the post you were replying to.
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