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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: Aric2000
Look MA another athiest thread.
161 posted on 06/22/2003 7:30:13 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: BenLurkin
Once again, the word "fact" never enters into it. Researchers "observe" the human body (or whatever they are studying) and make "theories" to explain those observations.
162 posted on 06/22/2003 7:32:49 PM PDT by Junior ("Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and okay for you...")
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Two men are standing and looking out at the grand canyon. The evolutionist says, "wow look at that, and to think it was formed over millions of years". The creationist says, "wow, look at what God did in 40 days". The Bible was the basis for the creationists bias and the books of Charlie Lyell and Darwin was the bias for the evolutionists bias. The questions is, Who is right?
163 posted on 06/22/2003 7:32:49 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Aric2000
But WE find them, as I said, Google is your freind.

GO FIND IT!!!

You're asking him to find YOUR source? This has become ridiculous.

164 posted on 06/22/2003 7:33:21 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Khepera; Aric2000
Some seem to "get it" a little too late


165 posted on 06/22/2003 7:34:14 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
The "Little Grand Canyon", as a result from Mount St. Helens. Hummmm that was quick.
166 posted on 06/22/2003 7:36:26 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Trees settled in Spirit Lake by species, wow.
167 posted on 06/22/2003 7:38:41 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: ALS
ah, of course... the classic. You dont believe me? Then YOU'LL SPEND ETERNITY IN HELL!!!!!

Wasn't it the evolutionists who were supposed to be initmidators?

168 posted on 06/22/2003 7:40:59 PM PDT by Derrald
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To: goodseedhomeschool
"The same facts can be used to support creation as well. I guess it all depends on ones bias.?"

Precisely!!! Astute observation.

Science, as a trade, uses a method designed (as best we mortals can) to reduce and even eliminate bias.

In doing so, science is limited to only those questions which can be investigated by its method.

169 posted on 06/22/2003 7:41:38 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Rudder
There is no "proof" for the theory of evolution, (as there also is not for other theories) but there are abundant data collected over many, many years which support the theory.

Whatever. Where is the "support" (note I did not use the word "proof")? It simply ain't there. You have been indoctrinated, and are simply spewing what has been put into your head. Please do some research and 1) show us the "support", or 2) refrain from making statements you cannot back up.

170 posted on 06/22/2003 7:41:51 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Rudder
I agree
171 posted on 06/22/2003 7:42:39 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Jorge
Evolution fails to meet the criteria of being a true science.

Not remotely true. A textbook definition of science: "systematized knowledge derived from observation, study, and experimentation carried on in order to determine the nature or principles of what is being studied; any branch of knowledge or study, esp. one concerned with establishing and systematizing facts, principles, and methods, as by experiments and hypotheses."

Evolution has never been observed by anyone...

Natural selection & microevolution certainly have been observed in process. The evidence of macroevolution may also be observed throughout the paleontological record. The fundamental components of evolution may be observed via the sciences of genetics & ecology, in tandem.

and evolutionist themselves admit no transitional forms have been observed in the fossil record.

Absolutely false.

Intermediate and transitional forms

Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ

Evolution has never been demonstrated in a laboratory.

Neither have any number of other scientific disciplines, such as the theory of gravitation (already raised here). However, the operant processes of evolution may certainly be in large part demonstrated and/or examined via the means described above.

172 posted on 06/22/2003 7:42:50 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Derrald
You fear hell?
173 posted on 06/22/2003 7:42:52 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: Aric2000
There is absolutely NO evidence for that assertion, and tons of evidence that the speed of light is CONSTANT, has been constant, and will ALWAYS be constant.

Boy could we have an interesting conversation (completely divorced from evolution vs. creationism). As a man of science, you may want to consider whether it is prudent to be so quick to just assume that such far reaching and subtle meachanisms of physical law are obviously self evident.

(What's even worse of course, is that I firmly believe in ID and think evolution is a crock)

174 posted on 06/22/2003 7:44:07 PM PDT by lafroste
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To: lafroste
He's not a man of science. He just posts hoping someone will think he is.
175 posted on 06/22/2003 7:45:58 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: Binghamton_native
Well said.
176 posted on 06/22/2003 7:47:18 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Wrong. Evolution and the junk science in it, around it, on it and under it make everyone that buys into it a chimp.

See! You just disproved your own position!! You admit that chimps DID evolve from humans!!

Wait a minute, something's not right here...

177 posted on 06/22/2003 7:49:31 PM PDT by lafroste
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To: goodseedhomeschool
"Sad isn't it?"

Yes, and in many ways and on many levels. I grew up Lutheran and went to government schools. I didn't have a chance...so, yes, I do believe that my belief, in and of, itself is a miracle.
178 posted on 06/22/2003 7:49:42 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Rudder
Get real. Your romantic view of the integrity and objectivity of scientists is a real thigh-slapper. The halls of science are filled with jealous small-minded men and women, bitter and vicious infighting, outrageous biases, mean-spirited character attacks and even shunning that have nothing to do with the scientific method.

E.g., check out the bitter bile that was thrown between the neodarwinists and the proponents of punctuated equilibrium, or the current resistance to a Univ of Iowa professor's theory that the earth is constantly bombarded by small icy comets. Money (in the form of lucrative grants), prestige, power and influence motivate supposedly objective scientists (and corrupts their data) as much they do any other group.

179 posted on 06/22/2003 7:49:57 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Aric2000
If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance chance

I have had the theory of evolution drummed into me since my earliest days -- thirteen years of public school, four years of college, years and years of National Geographic, Smithsonian magazine, New York Times, Newsweek, etc., etc. I once accepted it uncritically, because it was all I had been taught. Yet, after mature reflection, I no longer believe it. I myself am astonished at this.

Just to start with the first point of your post, the theory of evolution is not internally consistent. I once tried to debate this with an evolutionist, and when we got down to crunch time, and I thought he would have to concede my point, he shifted his ground, and changed his (hitherto implicit) formulation of the theory of evolution so that it did not exclude the existence of a supernatural god. Who cares about a theory of evolution that does not exclude the existence of a supernatural god? The true theory of evolution, which denies the existence of a supernatural god (see, e.g. Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker), is pernicious; and belief in it is as much a matter of faith as any belief in God.

180 posted on 06/22/2003 7:50:02 PM PDT by T Ruth
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