Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000
GO FIND IT!!!
You're asking him to find YOUR source? This has become ridiculous.
Wasn't it the evolutionists who were supposed to be initmidators?
Precisely!!! Astute observation.
Science, as a trade, uses a method designed (as best we mortals can) to reduce and even eliminate bias.
In doing so, science is limited to only those questions which can be investigated by its method.
Whatever. Where is the "support" (note I did not use the word "proof")? It simply ain't there. You have been indoctrinated, and are simply spewing what has been put into your head. Please do some research and 1) show us the "support", or 2) refrain from making statements you cannot back up.
Not remotely true. A textbook definition of science: "systematized knowledge derived from observation, study, and experimentation carried on in order to determine the nature or principles of what is being studied; any branch of knowledge or study, esp. one concerned with establishing and systematizing facts, principles, and methods, as by experiments and hypotheses."
Evolution has never been observed by anyone...
Natural selection & microevolution certainly have been observed in process. The evidence of macroevolution may also be observed throughout the paleontological record. The fundamental components of evolution may be observed via the sciences of genetics & ecology, in tandem.
and evolutionist themselves admit no transitional forms have been observed in the fossil record.
Absolutely false.
Intermediate and transitional forms
Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ
Evolution has never been demonstrated in a laboratory.
Neither have any number of other scientific disciplines, such as the theory of gravitation (already raised here). However, the operant processes of evolution may certainly be in large part demonstrated and/or examined via the means described above.
Boy could we have an interesting conversation (completely divorced from evolution vs. creationism). As a man of science, you may want to consider whether it is prudent to be so quick to just assume that such far reaching and subtle meachanisms of physical law are obviously self evident.
(What's even worse of course, is that I firmly believe in ID and think evolution is a crock)
See! You just disproved your own position!! You admit that chimps DID evolve from humans!!
E.g., check out the bitter bile that was thrown between the neodarwinists and the proponents of punctuated equilibrium, or the current resistance to a Univ of Iowa professor's theory that the earth is constantly bombarded by small icy comets. Money (in the form of lucrative grants), prestige, power and influence motivate supposedly objective scientists (and corrupts their data) as much they do any other group.
I have had the theory of evolution drummed into me since my earliest days -- thirteen years of public school, four years of college, years and years of National Geographic, Smithsonian magazine, New York Times, Newsweek, etc., etc. I once accepted it uncritically, because it was all I had been taught. Yet, after mature reflection, I no longer believe it. I myself am astonished at this.
Just to start with the first point of your post, the theory of evolution is not internally consistent. I once tried to debate this with an evolutionist, and when we got down to crunch time, and I thought he would have to concede my point, he shifted his ground, and changed his (hitherto implicit) formulation of the theory of evolution so that it did not exclude the existence of a supernatural god. Who cares about a theory of evolution that does not exclude the existence of a supernatural god? The true theory of evolution, which denies the existence of a supernatural god (see, e.g. Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker), is pernicious; and belief in it is as much a matter of faith as any belief in God.
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