Posted on 08/26/2008 10:24:15 PM PDT by STARWISE
The Confluence:
Clinton Delegates are pi*sed. The Clinton National Delegate Network, a grassroots movement of delegates is on the streets of Denver collecting signatures from Hillary delegates.
This eleventh hour effort is being organized to ensure that delegates who were elected to represent the voters of each state can and will vote for the candidate they were pledged to.
The DNC and Nancy Pelosi, the Chairman of the Democratic Convention, are doing everything in their power to make sure that does not happen.
With Obama’s flagging support, according to the polls, running neck and neck with McCain, they are very worried that Hillary will get the nomination if a roll call vote takes place on the convention floor.
That is why they are making the delegates have a secret hotel vote, instead of the floor vote that’s been done since forever. The hotel vote will purportedly take place on Wednesday morning, August 27, 2008.
However, there is a DNC rule that says if 20% of a candidate’s delegates sign a petition for a roll call vote, it must happen.
This means that Hillary needs 826 of her delegates to sign this petition. I visited their headquarters along with BettyJean, Pagan, Hill08, and BrendaLynn.
As we set out on our mission, we got three signatures in less than one block. They headed for the Pepsi Center to collect more, and got about 40 in an hour, and I came back to Puma Headquarters to blog. Last word I got was there were over 400 signatures gathered.
Pagan reports that he talked to a delegate who originally supported Hillary.
The delegate declined to sign or divulge the delegation he was from. He said he would vote the way his state party told him to vote and that Terry McAuliffe had instructed them in how to vote.
When Pagan asked if he’d mind sharing what that way of voting would be, he also declined, and then just turned his head and refused to engage in the conversation anymore.
Delegates have reported to us that Obama supporters are stationed outside of each delegation’s room with clipboards, ready to make sure that once again, despite their best efforts to represent their constituents (approximately 12,000 voters per delegate in the case of primaries, and 585 in the case of caucuses), that Hillary delegates and voters are ROBBED of their democratic rights.
As recently as this afternoon, we knew that the hotel vote would take place in each delegation on Wednesday morning, and that Hillary would have a special luncheon with her delegates at 1pm. Rumor had it that she might release her delegates then.
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Go Hillary! Get those signatures!!
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It would be useful to have the Report of the Rules and Bylaws Committee now. It was scheduled to be adopted yesterday as the first order of business at the convention.
Thanks. I’ve got about 30 minutes.
Is the hotel vote holding water?
didn’t Hillary! just pick up a bunch of delegates when the convention opened and they decided to seat ALL the Michigan and FLorida delegates?
holy sh*t.
Many Tennessee delegates will give their vote to Hillary. She won this state and they agree and feel obligated.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/c313170ef991f2ce12_iqm6iyofq.pdf
6. Nomination of the Democratic Candidate for President: The Permanent Chair shall receive nominations from the floor for the Democratic candidate for the Office of President of the United States in the following manner:
a. Requests to nominate a presidential candidate shall be in writing and shall have affixed thereto the written approval of the proposed nominee and the name of the individuals who shall be recognized to make the nominating and seconding speeches on behalf of a presidential candidate and shall be delivered to the Convention Secretary at a location as specified by the Secretary no later than 6:00 p.m. of the day preceding the day designated for the commencement of presidential nominations.b. Each such request must be accompanied by a petition indicating support for the proposed nominee signed by delegates representing not less than 300 or more than 600 delegate votes, not more than 50 of which may come from one (1) delegation. A delegate may not sign more than one (1) nominating petition for president and for vice president.
c. The order for nominating presidential candidates shall be determined by the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee, the Permanent Chair of the Convention and each presidential candidate, or his or her authorized representative, who qualifies to be nominated pursuant to this section.
d. Each presidential candidate shall be allowed a total of twenty (20) minutes for the presentation of his or her name in nomination by nominating and seconding speeches, the time to run without interruption from the recognition of the nominator.
e. Delegates and alternates shall maintain order during and following nominations for the Office of President and demonstrations shall not be permitted. 2008 Call for the Democratic National Convention
7. Roll Call for Presidential Candidate:
a. After nominations for presidential candidates have closed, the Convention shall proceed to a roll call vote by states on the selection of the presidential candidate. The roll call voting shall follow the alphabetical order of the states with the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico and the territories treated as states for the purpose of the alphabetical roll call.b. A majority vote of the Convention’s delegates shall be required to nominate the presidential candidate.
c. Delegates may vote for the candidate of their choice whether or not the name of such candidate was placed in nomination. Any vote cast other than a vote for a presidential candidate meeting the requirements of Article VI of this Call and Rule 12.K. of the 2008 Delegate Selection Rules shall be considered a vote for “Present.”
d. Balloting will continue until a nominee is selected. The nominee shall become the candidate of the Democratic Party of the United States for the Office of President upon the conclusion of his or her acceptance speech.
We really need a copy of the rules that were ratified yesterday. If these old rules are still in effect, it looks like they will have to completely ignore them in order to proceed as some news reports suggest they intend to do.
Socialists make up the rules as they go along.
BUMP
I looked and couldn’t find it.
They quashed the applause at the end. This is not over ...
Watched my local news tonight and they showed video of this protest and the reporter said there was as LEAST 1,000 Hillary supporters chanting and holding up Hillary campaign signs.
BTW, is what the Obama people doing legal? Can’t she try to wrest the nomination away from him?
The whole way they would not let any Hillary signs in the hall until 5 minutes before her speech. Then they handled out WHITE bland signs with Obama signs on the back of them.
She does her speech and they take the signs away and close down for the evening.
Oh, and the TV shot of all the people outside also given the white signs. What’s up with that!
But she already conceded that at the dnc tonight and put her support behind Obama, right? So how could they vote her in?
Whoa!
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Clinton die-hards voice Obama anger in convention protest
http://livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/08/27/Clinton_diehards_voice_Obama_anger_in_convention_protest
Defiant Hillary Clinton loyalists have marched through Denver to vent anger at the outcome of the bitter Democratic primary race, in a final show of support for their beaten idol.
More than 1,000 supporters of the former first lady have paid vocal tribute to her campaign, just hours before Clinton’s to address Democrats in a speech that party officials hope will heal the split caused by the nominating battle.
Despite calls for a unified front heading into November’s presidential election, many of Clinton’s supporters say they’ll never be able to forgive Barack Obama for his hard-fought victory.
Obama has fled the convention to try to keep the focus on his messages, and off any drama unfolding in Denver.
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