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Obama Birth Certificate Issue Will Simply Not Go Away.
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Posted on 11/07/2008 11:00:42 AM PST by big black dog

For some reason this issue with Obama’s birth certificate will not fade away. There seems to be a nagging belief by many that he is not a natural born citizen of this country and is therefore not qualified to be president. Critics of those that continue to hang onto this theory simply swat away these suggestions as racist (I know, shocking) and coming from people that don’t want to see a half black dude in the White house.

One tiny little bit of information, that you will never find in the lamestream media, seems to point to the fact that those that doubt Obama’s citizenship status just might be on to something.

Back in April of ‘08 highly partisan Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, a staunch and fervent supporter of Barack Obama, inexplicably introduced Senate Resolution 511 a resolution recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen. She was joined by five other Democratic senators including Barack Obama in an effort to push this bill through the senate. The original text of this bill read:

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110th CONGRESS

2d Session

S. RES. 511

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 10, 2008

Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. OBAMA, Mr. COBURN, Mrs. CLINTON, and Mr. WEBB) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

RESOLUTION

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen’ of the United States;

Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen’;

Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;

Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved,That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.

At first blush one may think “big deal” but read it again and see what these five Democrats were really trying to accomplish.

a)Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States

b)Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;

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Now why would five Democratic senators including the one running for president bother drafting a resolution declaring their Republican opponent eligible for office while carefully crafting the bill to be accepting of someone born outside of the U.S. and perhaps NOT a natural born citizen to also be eligible to hold the office of president if elected? Hmmmmmm?

It seems clear to me what they were attempting to accomplish especially with statement “b” and that was to declare Obama eligible for the office of president even if he wasn’t born here or qualified as a “natural born” citizen.

There was no need to issue this resolution for McCain as he was already known to have been born at the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama which was under U.S. control at the time of his birth. His father was naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. McCain was cleared to run for president in 2000 based on this information so there was no reason for McCaskill and her pals to introduce the resolution except as cover for Obama in the event he was indeed elected as president.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; marines; mccain; obama; obamagate
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To: big black dog

Well, as it stands right now, absolutely anyone can “run” for President. Presumably even someone who is under 35 years of age and has not yet been a resident of the U.S. for 14 years.

What we don’t know is whether or not the Courts or Congress will uphold the constitution by preventing “absolutely anyone” from actually “holding” the office of President.

At what point the Constitution will be upheld remains to be seen.


21 posted on 11/07/2008 11:16:58 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: trad_anglican

McCain, for one.


22 posted on 11/07/2008 11:16:58 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: big black dog

“There seems to be a nagging belief by many that he is not a natural born citizen..”

Why doesn’t he or the Democrats resolve this uncertainty once and for all? Don’t the American people have the right to know that their president is not a foreigner? I had expected Obama to come up with proof of his citizenship the eve of the elections so as to rub his birth certificate in the Republicans’ face just to spite them, but that didn’t happen either. The question still remains: “Who is Obama?”


23 posted on 11/07/2008 11:18:35 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: big black dog

False cover here ... it has been settled law since the 1800’s that anyone born outside the physical boundaries of the continental U.S. in a U.S. territory, military base, or protectorate to two (2) U.S. citizens IS, in fact, a natural born citizen.

Obama doesn’t have a leg to stand on if he was not born on any type of U.S. soil.

This is smoke and mirrors, and would not stand up in court to say “McCain’s a natural born citizen - so I am too”.


24 posted on 11/07/2008 11:19:47 AM PST by Lmo56
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To: SERKIT

The amusing thing is that there just aren’t any “friends” of the mother who exist and know her inside out from the late high school years. From my last four years of school...you can ask fifty adults today and they can give you a entire page summary of me and my life. But with his mom, you just don’t get anything but what he hands out. I know of one story from someone who did know her from Washington state, who saw her and the new child just a few weeks after birth. There really aren’t any comments other than seeing her. This “friend” didn’t know a thing about the boyfriend or the father.

I doubt if anyone will ever learn this story. The story of Adolph Hitler’s mother is actually more complete than Obama’s mother....and that really perks up the interest of folks.


25 posted on 11/07/2008 11:20:07 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: big black dog

http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/Obama-USA-TODAY-ad.htm


26 posted on 11/07/2008 11:20:11 AM PST by GoRepGo (I'm not a control freak; I'm a not-being-controlled freak)
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To: trad_anglican

George Romney, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 1968, was born in Mexico to U.S. parents.

Barry Goldwater, who ran as the Republican party nominee in 1964, was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory. However, although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully organized and incorporated territory of the United States.

Lowell Weicker, the former Connecticut Senator, Representative, and Governor, entered the race for the Republican party nomination of 1980 but dropped out before voting in the primaries began. He was born in Paris, France.

John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and was the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at the Coco Solo U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen#US_presidential_candidates_born_outside_the_US


27 posted on 11/07/2008 11:20:53 AM PST by Unkosified (What do Osama and Obama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: ml/nj
Read the 20th Amendment to the Constitution, beginning at the words, "If the President elect shall have failed to qualify."

It says if Barry shall have failed to qualify, we get Joe Plugs as acting president until a president qualifies. Wonder if that means that the electors get back together and vote for someone else for president? That could get interesting pretty quick. Can you say President Hillary?

28 posted on 11/07/2008 11:21:33 AM PST by trad_anglican
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To: 353FMG
“Who is Obama?”

I think the answer to that is obvious. He is a habitual liar.

29 posted on 11/07/2008 11:21:41 AM PST by apt4truth
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To: big black dog

O is not a half black dude. He is 1/4 black, 1/4 arab, 1/2 white.


30 posted on 11/07/2008 11:22:33 AM PST by Pfesser ( Georgia boy)
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To: trad_anglican
"Can you say President Hillary?"

As bad as that sounds it beats "President Obama."

31 posted on 11/07/2008 11:23:12 AM PST by apt4truth
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To: Unkosified

Good Find! Thanks. You wouldn’t happen to know when the stock market will bottom out, would you?


32 posted on 11/07/2008 11:23:23 AM PST by trad_anglican
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To: theDentist

Who in Hawaii said so?? TO this date I have not read nor seen of such a person. All I know is that the gov locked up ‘O’s public records and that in of itself is very suspicious. Please show me other official goobermint documents like a BC from 1961 that has the type of font that BO’s BC has on it, at least the one published by his campaign on the Internet? Also, why is the document number blackened out?


33 posted on 11/07/2008 11:23:40 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: big black dog

If Obama fails to resolve this before inauguration,
It will continue to hang over his presidency as a looming avenue by which he can be ousted from office without the complications of impeachment.... or as a valid basis FOR impeachment. I’m not quite sure how you impeach an unqualified holder of the office.

It’s kind of like all the gays now in California... are they married or not?

MAJOR constitutional crisis.
Nothing he does as president may be considered lawful if he is in fact not qualified to be president.


34 posted on 11/07/2008 11:25:10 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: theDentist; murphE; luv2ndamend
It's over. Hawaii says it's a legal birth certificate.


35 posted on 11/07/2008 11:26:17 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Pfesser

Actually is is only 1/16th black, 7/16 Arab, and 1/2 white. But Arabs aren’t a race. They are a mixture of white and black, with most of them being more white than black.


36 posted on 11/07/2008 11:26:43 AM PST by apt4truth
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To: Doug4McCain

I am not a legal beagle.

I see the problem being that no matter where he was born, his mother was a U.S. citizen. And there are residency requirements which must be met to maintain citizenship.

Obama, through no fault of his own, might have lost his U.S. citizenship — either through residency requirements or by the fact that he was legally adopted by an Indoneasian.

I’m sure Obama considers himself to be a U.S. citizen. But he may think he might have some problem with it — hence he is trying to keep the actual records hidden.

But it isn’t going away. He will eventually HAVE to show his birth certificate, I believe.


37 posted on 11/07/2008 11:27:29 AM PST by i_dont_chat
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To: SERKIT

Could all this have something to do with drugs? Maybe his birth certificate says, “father unknown” and his mother named him Barry Stanley Dunham, or something.

He enrolls in Occidental College under that name. He gets arrested for cocaine in California and it goes on his college record.
He tries to run away from it by going all the way across the country and changing his name to his father’s name, Barack Hussein Obama and enrolls in Columbia, then Harvard under this new name, but now he can’t release any of his records.


38 posted on 11/07/2008 11:27:43 AM PST by Unkosified (What do Osama and Obama have in common? They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: big black dog
Here is a guy who just played poker with the nation, going all in, trying to bluff his way into the Presidency. And now, while everyone else has laid down all their cards, he is trying to claim the pot without having to lay down his cards -- all of them.

He has his hands wrapped around the chips and is pulling them into his lap, but then comes that voice that he fears the most from across the table saying: "Let's see your cards".

Well, Barry or whatever your name is: "Let's see your cards". And by the way, "Take your hands off those chips".

39 posted on 11/07/2008 11:27:46 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Lmo56
The following may set a precedent establishing Obama's eligibility since we cannot prove or disprove Andrew Jackson's citizenship:

Andrew Jackson

Born: Mar. 15, 1767, in the frontier region known as the Waxhaws along the border between North and South Carolina. Although both states claim Jackson's birthplace, most modern authorities place it in South Carolina. Jackson was the first president to be born in a log cabin or west of the Appalachian Mountains.

Controversial point: Allan W. Eckert, in his book The Frontiersman, contends that it is highly probable Jackson was not born in the U.S. According to several people who knew Jackson personally, including a woman who claimed to have delivered him, he was born in 1755 aboard a ship bound for America from Ireland. The scarcity of verifiable information about the early part of his life lends credence to this story. If it is true that he was born at sea, Jackson would have had to maintain that he was born on American soil in order to be eligible to run for the presidency.

40 posted on 11/07/2008 11:28:27 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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