Posted on 11/29/2008 7:34:28 AM PST by Charlie Fairbanks
The time to challenge President-elect Obama’s citizenship has long since passed. Based on long-standing principles of election law, opponents must raise defects in nominating petitions, including the eligibility of the candidate, at the time of the filing of the nominating petition. Petitions were filed in late 2007 and early 2008. There were no legal challenges And not for nothing: Don’t you think that Senator Clinton would have raised this issue in order to keep BHO off the ballot? Citizenship will remain as a political issue, and may return as a legal issue in 2012.
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I think Hillary was using it to leverage her way into Secretary of State. That is only three heartbeats from the Oval Office, and, well, obscure parks, and all that...
If upholding the Constitution, or wanting it upheld is "fringe", the I guess I am a card-carrying fringe element of the VRWC.
If the supreme law of the land isn't good enough to stand for, I guess you'd lay down for anything.
I still think it is best to sort this out now, while it can still be done with words.
What I really have trouble with are people who have no sense of absolutes, no concept of "right" except a political position where they ain't.
So-called "social conservatives" 'get it' because they know there are things that aren't right, even if they are legal, and others which are neither right nor legal.
If you believe in moral absolutes, believing that the law of the land should be upheld comes much easier.
Considering I am Conservative on social, fiscal, and Constitutional issues, I reckon I am a "fringe element", but I'm not selling my soul nor my country down the river.
A 'bad' plane here, an accident there, someone's limo gets stuck on the train tracks, all within a few hours, not the same time.
I would not put anything past these people, and no doubt they would find some one to blame. Think of occasions where the other three would be present at the same time, and you'd know where to look.
Most likely, though, she is retaining proximity to power and a hand in cutting deals which may benefit her down the road, politically or otherwise. Would she blackmail her way into such a spot? You tell me.
So you must be having a really slow day, just hanging out and berating the people who are working to make your statement wrong, or at least are interested in discussing it. If not, he will not be president, no law he signs, no executive order, no military command, no international agreement will have validity, at least in the minds of a portion of the electorate.
For twenty bucks at most, he can clear it all up. Why doesn't he?
Thinkaboutit.
OK, if this is true, I have one question.
Some are saying that if Barack Obama is not qualified to be President of the United States, then every decision he makes, every agreement the USA makes with other countries, is null and voic and not valid because it could be proven at some point that he is NOT natural born, and a constitutional crisis will occur.
I liken this election lawyer’s argument to saying that the right to bear arms is taken care of within local, smaller laws, and if you haven’t bought your gun by (making up a local law here) January 12th of a given year, that was it; it’s too late to still acquire one in that calendar year.
Doesn’t the Constitution trump these local or state election laws that allow a small window of time to vet the opposing candidate?
Thus wouldn’t we still be in a huge crisis if someone came along in 2 years and sued that our President is not eligible and nothing he does is valid?
bkmk
I agree; it would be a disaster of epic proportions to reverse the will of the voters. I hope he DOES have the necessary documents to prove he is natural born. But he still has to prove he meets the two lousy qualifications, in order to serve as President. The sad thing is, if he is not eligible, he knows this. So he has perpetrated a lie. I would truly feel differently if he were lied to about his origins; most of us do not remember our own birth days. But he’s fought this tooth and nail, so if he is not qualified, he knew it all along.
By law, can the President of the Senate accept votes from the electors for candidates who are not eligible for the office of President? I doubt it.
By law, can the President of the Senate declare as winner a person who is not eligible for the office of President? I hope not.
I think this is the money post.
We notice that you do not cite any case authority precedent and there would not seem to be any statutory authority for your position.
Please let us here on FR know if I am wrong and there is such precedent or authority.
Otherwise the situation would seem be one where a void act is void whenever someone with standing challenges it in court.
Can someone point me in the right direction with this question:
I hear often from folks about how Obama “couldn’t have made it this far without going through some kind of background check” or something. The trouble is, I don’t know the first place to look for this information to find out whether it is true or not.
Can anyone help me out with this?
Hahaha. I can't believe someone is actually trying to use that ploy. Sorry, Charlie, but we have not begun to fight.
Why are you bringing Palin into this? She has nothing to do with the issue.
Are you hoping to gain credibility so you can sucker conservatives?
I don’t know if you are a leftist in disguise. But if you are, what’s it like knowing you can never advance your ideology on its own merits?
A fake CERTIFICATION OF BIRTH IS FORGERY. Forgery is forgery.
Quite frankly, Mr Charlie, since Obama was not vetted prior to the election, it needs to be done before he is sworn in.
You need to understand that. All Obama needs to do to end this is provide , which could be done quickly, his credentials. It really is that easy. I could do it by tomorrow and it would be very cheap.
This man wants to be in charge of all Americans and our country. It is a small thing to ask that he prove he meets all Constitutional requirements.
I am not willing to wait until another election. The Constitution is the Constitution.
Wouldn’t you agree?
Thankfully, our forefathers took a stand against the crown to establish this country and constitution. Its sad to see how far we’ve fallen. If we ignore the constitution out of fear, then this country is likely already lost.
Horse hockey! There is no time limit on upholding the constitution in this area that I am aware of. And I'm no scholar, but I would venture a guess that even if he were determined ineligible after he had served a time, anything he had put his name to would be up to review.
Perhaps you’ve heard the phrase “The guilty dog barks the loudest”? Personally, that’s one of my favorites. It is interesting, though, that all those threads about the MO tapes have disappeared. I think some trolls have crawled back under their bridges.
No, the DUmmies only go after totally silly and likely baseless conspircacies. This one is real. If not Obi could just have his lawyers present the certified Birth Certificate at the over a dozen court cases and the story would end. Why doesn't he have them submit the one that factcheck.org keeps parading around? hmmm? Why?
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