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NASA-Pentagon: An Idea Whose Time Has Come?
houston conservative ^ | 1/02/2009 | Will Malven

Posted on 01/02/2009 11:21:52 AM PST by Sudetenland

Boy this ought to set the Liberals who voted for Obama off.

Apparently there is serious talk coming from the Obama camp of merging NASA's civilian space program with the pentagon's military space program.

No doubt the folks at NASA are in a tizzy over this proposal. Many of them are the ivory-towered elitist academic types who see patriotism and politics (except for Global Warming) as being beneath them.

Bringing the military into the picture will greatly offend the sensibilities. Of course I'm sure that the hard-headed military pragmatists are just as thrilled at the prospect of dealing with some of NASA's prima donnas. It's a match made in Washington D.C. Oh what fun!

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: nasa; obama; pentagon
Can't post from Bloomberg, so I posted my blog about it instead.

What better way to anger Liberals than suggesting combining the "noble" civilian space program with the "evil" military?
1 posted on 01/02/2009 11:21:52 AM PST by Sudetenland
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To: SeraphimApprentice; zot

ping


2 posted on 01/02/2009 11:23:00 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead (3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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To: Sudetenland

Ughh! Grammar. ...an Idea for which the Time has Come?


3 posted on 01/02/2009 11:23:11 AM PST by Sudetenland (Those diplomats serve best, who serve as cannon fodder to protect our troops!)
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To: Sudetenland

Looks like an excuse to gut the NASA budget to me.


4 posted on 01/02/2009 11:26:30 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: Sudetenland

Under Obama, I see this being a bad idea.

Otherwise, I’d say this is an interesting prospect, and it might FINALLY encourage pushing a space weapons program into high gear.


5 posted on 01/02/2009 11:31:02 AM PST by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Sudetenland

UFO conspiracy groups have long claimed that NASA was controlled by the military.


6 posted on 01/02/2009 11:41:59 AM PST by Treefiddy
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To: Sudetenland

Now they can cut funds to nasa thru the reduction of funds to military without taking the heat for it.


7 posted on 01/02/2009 11:47:33 AM PST by Diggity
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To: Sudetenland
Skynet?
8 posted on 01/02/2009 11:48:29 AM PST by allen08gop (Insert appropriate picture here...)
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To: allen08gop

Obama says he’s going to kill the Ares program. Something JFK would never do. What do you think about that Princess Caroline?


9 posted on 01/02/2009 11:54:30 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

“Obama says he’s going to kill the Ares program”

I read that there is speculation that Obama will try to can the Ares 1 program and use the delta or atlas rockets for manned space flight.

It might be a good idea to shutdown NASA. They seem to have problems building rockets... and that’s their business... Maybe they just need a bailout.


10 posted on 01/02/2009 12:03:34 PM PST by smallbiz (Democrat Party = Alexander Tyler Party)
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To: Sudetenland

Shutting down NASA by forcing a merger with the USAF is Obama’s “nuclear option” for dealing with a recalcitrant NASA Adminstrator. I believe it’s an idle threat for the reasons cited by others on the thread — basically that neither the NASA people nor the Pentagon types will be in favor of it.


11 posted on 01/02/2009 12:12:32 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Crazieman

Its a dumb idea. As a civilian agency, NASA doesn’t traffic in National Security secrets. The Pentagon has a boatload of them. For one thing, I suspect many UFO sitings are real— piloted by sentient, humanoid creatures who wear Air Force Academy rings. Merging NASA into the Pentagon would do damage to both.

If they want to merge NASA with something, merge it with the European Space Agency, that would save a lot of money and stop redundant efforts (aren’t the Europeans still putting up their own GPS system?).

Heck, include the Canadians and we can put it under NATO and physically base it in Canada. The Canadian space agency headquarters is between Montreal and the New York state line. The ESA guys can move from Paris to Quebec, the NASA guys move from Texas to New York.


12 posted on 01/02/2009 12:31:49 PM PST by Maximum Leader (run from a knife, close on a gun)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. This looks like a proposal to gut both NASA and DoD by merging and reducing their space programs.


13 posted on 01/02/2009 2:25:02 PM PST by zot
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To: Sudetenland

Anyone who thinks that the NASA launches are not all scrubbed, cleared, and endorsed by the military before they even get near a launch pad has noodles for brains.


14 posted on 01/02/2009 2:28:32 PM PST by djf (< Tagline closed until further notice. Awaiting bailout >)
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To: Tallguy

There are various points to this...political and non-political. First, a growing amount of NASA’s budget is for environmental purposes...which the political figures grasp as being concrete and not likely to be cut....but with Pentagon leadership...they could force the funds to be fully explained and probably shifted into realistic projects, rather than bio-gravy projects. Second...the Pentagon is focused on the future and tend to have the better project managers (at least some folks believe that). Third...all of China’s projects are handled via their military system, period. It doesn’t matter if its recon or space exploration...the military guys make the decisions involved. Finally, we come to a minor episode involving Mr. Hansen of NASA and a meeting of the minds with the Pentagon. The prime individual pushing environmental policy for the US government is NASA’s own Hansen. Can you imagine a meeting where a couple of Pentagon generals engage him on a topic and demand he explain facts...and he starts to stumble? These guys tear up junior officers just for one goof-up....and Hansen will likely find himself in a pit of vipers when dealing with the Pentagon.


15 posted on 01/03/2009 12:32:18 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: massgopguy

The “Not Ready for Prime Time Players” come to mind when I think of Senator Caroline...


16 posted on 01/03/2009 8:44:47 AM PST by allen08gop (Insert appropriate picture here...)
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To: bolobaby

I don’t have a problem with merging the programs in the abstract, but I suspect this is just a backdoor attempt to cut spending on research and space exploration generally speaking just to give them more funds to dump into the welfare state. I can’t support that.


17 posted on 01/03/2009 11:33:51 AM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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