Hard to say. My gut feel is no, there won’t be civil “war” but... I think it likely there will be civil unrest, protests, and a clash of ideals that probably will out-do even the late 60s...
In a word - yes.
As Ayn Rand has said, “We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.”
There’s a whole freight train load of consequences headed our way. The question is how you’re going to deal with them.
Just buy bullets, ammo, and guns.
Socialist movements and actions certainly aren’t anything new in American life. From FDR’s whole domestic package to LBJ’s “Great Society” to the wage and price controls attempted under Nixon, Presidents have reached for the socialist Kool-Aid for decades.
I think there will be some ‘60s-style turmoil ahead, but I have some amount of faith the pendulum will swing back to the free market in due course. It always seems to.
In my community things are getting pretty segregated. I no longer have any interest in crossing the lines either socially or professionally, and I certainly no longer view leftists as my countrymen. But that’s just one bitter clinger’s opinion.
My dear departed mother told me when I was but a child, the time would come when “we the people” would have to make a choice, again, between freedom and tyranny as was done during the founding years of this nation and when we Texans made the choice to declare independence from Mexico. There is a great divide in this country and there are those in power who are advancing the divide.
I don’t think that an actual state of civil war will exist, but the gulf will definitely widen, and there will be incidents of violence. I hate to say it, but there will also be a racial/ethnic component to it too. Sadly, the people who prospered from keeping us at each others throats and caused such pressure to build will probably not be in harms way.
I think we have passed the tipping point, where the parasites and leeches outnumber and outvote the productive hosts. Generally, this signals the end of a democracy, and what follows is generally some form of tyranny.
But since a large minority of us will resist being forced into socialism’s yoke, there very well could be a conflict.
Personally, I believe in moving to a “freer state” as far as possible from the “parasite states.” Refuse to be a willing host orgnanism. Don’t be near a large urban center full of parasites. When the crunch comes, the suburbs will be forced to pay and pay.
Move away from the parasites, as far as possible. Your local law enforcement will generally be on your side. This will not be true if you live near a large urban center.
Does anyone other than myself believe our country is now under demonic influence, or, if not that, a mafiosa. Look, Obama is forcing Chrysler to merge with Fiat, a company which is worse off than Chrysler. Fiat produces nothing but crap.
When they come "canvassing" your neighborhood, are you signing up?
How are they going to enforce that stuff?
If it comes down to resistance or something like the Warsaw ghettos... what you gonna do?
That's just the simple stuff.
It's quite likely to be an interesting summer . .
No. It is not only a political issue, but a spiritual and cultural issue.
We can no longer agree on the fundamentals of society, which are deeper than the law.
This cannot be solved politically.
IF Texas secedes to make a stand for a traditional society, its beliefs, mores and the laws that result, I would move there.
These differences are as deep as the question of whether a nation can hold together that is part slave, part free.
I am not sure who said it first but my Father used to say, “Political revolution followed by Social revolution followed by Anarchy and in turn followed by Chaos.” All followed by reconstruction and the cycle begins anew. I am never quite sure which stage we are in.
I have felt the country deeply divided for at least the last ten years, polarized is more appropriate I think. That has grown dramatically in the last few months. This is not profound as it should be apparent.
ZERO has amnesty on his agenda next.
We no longer have the orderly process of indoctrination to becoming an American in our path to citizenship. The traditional foundations of what becoming an American means have been all but destroyed. Not only in the path to citizenship but in our schools. We have pretty much turned into a rabble instead of a collection of similar minds all focused on preserving the hope that the foundations of the nation provides. Instead, we have become the polarized nation of haves and have nots with the have nots inspired to envy and covetness ...in this is the foundation for the destruction of the republic. ZERO and his ilk are all too willing to capitalize on this class envy.
On the current track though these have nots will be deceived because they will become the slaves of the oligarchy, monarchy or dictatorship created by their sin.
If the path ZERO has taken us on is not ended, and soon, at the present pace the political revolution will have taken place without firing a single shot. We on the right believe in our Constitution too much to allow ourselves to believe the system will fail us. If it does fail us we will cling to our guns and religion until the very end.
Each president will be hated by approximately half the country and loved by the other half. Then the next president will be loved by the first half and hated by the other half. Politics, ideology, culture, religion, etc. will continue to divide the country.
The problem is that when you push for the government to use its powers to interfere with peoples’ lives and freedoms in such a way as to bring about a desired result, when you want the government to make decisions in the economy and in peoples’ lives, you automatically make vicious enemies for yourself. And the more state control you push for, the more enemies you will have.
This is why the left became unhinged during the Iraq War, they didn’t like this use of state power. This is why we are angry over the soft fascism/socialism we see today. As long as you have to groups of people that either A) differ enormously in what they want the state to use its powers for or B) differ enormously in the *amount* of power they want the state to have, you will have irreconcilable differences.
The idea used to terrify me, but now I think it wouldn’t be such a bad thing for the states to peaceably go their separate ways IF things continue the way they are going. I’m talking decades from now. Right now we are just seeing the birth pangs of the great divide in this country.
Note to lurking DUers/DHS agents: this isn’t “sedition” or “treason,” two things that the far left know a lot about (practicing), this is simply an objective position, a natural consequence of what I believe the political/cultural/spiritual divide is in this country. If things continue like this, if America continues to be more and more divided, then splitting up could very well be the most preferable of all of our options.
Don't worry about the list. You'll never know they're watching.
Yes, I think we're heading for war that will split the country up. I don't see how people, who want to live free, will continue to carry the load of those who hate them the way the left hates us. The left thinks nothing about forcing us, at the point of a gun, to pay for things only they want. Just because they won the election they think it gives them the right to yoke us like oxen. The very people who rant about the enslavement of their ancestors, are working to enslave their fellow Americans. The biggest problem I see is, how do we keep them on their side of the border?
I don’t think so. The forces that led up to our Civil War included strong geographical separation (i.e., slave states and free states), which made secession possible. We do have blue states and red states now, but it seems to me the stronger political separation is between the largely liberal large cities, and smaller towns and rural areas, which tend to be more conservative. In short, I think that geographically we are too mixed for any sort of secession to gain traction.
That said, people are unhappy right now, and we are very polarized politically. If the economy continues to tank and the present administration continues its attack on our Constitution, there may be civil unrest, somewhat like that of the 60’s.
The left is unwilling to compromise on their agenda: all must pour their resources and talents into the government coffers to be redistributed as they, in their supposedly superior intellect and "caring", see fit. They champion the helpless, hopeless, and the unproductive. They delight in changing the social structure and celebrating that which the vast majority of us find abhorrent. They MUST have us producers in the yoke in order to realize their grandiose schemes.
Many millions of patriotic, productive citizens will NOT allow ourselves to be enslaved by the "collective". I'd rather die than suffer the chains of socialistic slavery.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry (March 23, 1775)
I'm watching to see how this will play out. I think those that want the Socialist state won't budge until it hits them personally and hard.