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Obama's eligibility issue: Why the British Citizenship argument is a red herring
The Greater Evil ^ | 06/27/09 | Polarik

Posted on 06/27/2009 6:13:50 AM PDT by Polarik

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It seems as if the motive of those pushing the British citizen argument and disparaging the importance of the Birth Certificate are trying to drive a wedge between what they perceive as two factions of the "Birther" movement and thereby weaken it.
21 posted on 06/27/2009 9:58:59 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Polarik
It is essential to demand more than just a long form birth certificate from Barry Soetoro. We must also demand the college netrance papers, the applications for student aid, and his tuition documentation.

We must also insist on seeing his passport records from his college years. There is a smelly fish rotting in the Congress as they promoted an affirmative action figure fraud by usurping the role of the Supreme court in interpreting the Constitution and by fiat fabricating a substitute amendment to the Constitution on the eligibility issue ... for John McCain!

This same fiat usurpation of our Constitutional contract has been used to cower the feckless Roberts court into acquiescing to the demands of the affimative action candidate subtley threatening race riots of the Odinga scale if he is not ushered into the office he demands without proof of Constitutional eligibility.

It is likely that we have a felon in the White HOuse, as per his forgery used to claim Constitutional eligibility.

We the people must have ALL the evidence on this lying sack of crap the democrats have foisted upon the world. If he used an Indonesian passport based upon claimed Indonesian citizenship to travel outside the US, he has shown divided loyalties in his adult life.

If he applied for college aid claiming to be an foregin student, he has committed fraud either to US or the college requirements if he was not a foreign student. Ron, one cannot be legitimately a foreign student and a U.S resident student simultaneously in a U.S. College or UNiversity.

There is a criminal liar in the White HOuse and all three branches of the federal governemnt have been complicit in posting this affirmative action criminal there!

We the people must demand this be made right or we will have been usurped as the actual sovereigns of a Constitutional Republic because the other party in the contract has abrogated the agreement byfiat appointment of an 'extra-constitutional' liar to head a branch of the government. We are witnessing a coup d'etat and have not a clue since the enemedia is covering for the liar-in-chief they worship as their ruler.

22 posted on 06/27/2009 10:15:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Only an obamanoid dingo would try to float this lie as the premise upon which he would refute Polarik’s essay: “In order to dodge the highly unlikely forgery charge brought in a court of law, all he would have to do is produce a real COLB.” The forgery was posted on the INternet, cited by Barry’s lawyers in legal cases, and vouched by the WH Press Secretary as what the state of Hawaii sent to Barry. You are a liar and an agent provacateur.


23 posted on 06/27/2009 10:27:39 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Polarik

Note the amount in legal fees Obama is paying to keep his documents hidden.

Add this to an investigation: “Obama claims to have traveled to Pakistan in 1981 at age 20. At that time, Pakistan was on the U.S. “no travel” list. Thus, Obama likely didn’t use a U.S. passport to travel there. He probably used a British or Indonesian passport. If Obama used a British passport, then he was born in Kenya which was a British colony at the time of his birth (then he would NOT be a natural born American citizen). If Obama used a Indonesian passport, then his citizenship was changed to Indonesian as a minor child and he thus lost natural born American citizenship in that way....... Is Obama lying and guilty of fraud?”


24 posted on 06/27/2009 10:44:26 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: MHGinTN

Unfortunately, those of us who know the truth are in the minority, and that allows ZERO, the Enemedia, and the Left to marginalize us as “rightwing extremist Republicans who watch FOXNEWS.”

We need to have something on a scale of the upcoming tea parties where we adopt the same strategies as ACORN and start “getting in the face” of the Enemedia and people in high places to wake others up and do something to stop this madness.

All we need is a foot in the door to push our way through. The BC has enough momentum to start incorporating the other things that ZERO is hiding.

Look, the Media and the Left lied their asses off knowing that there would be no repercussions. Although it is against my principles to lie, spreading disinformation to the enemy is perfectly acceptable to me.


25 posted on 06/27/2009 10:51:51 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: real_patriotic_american

A liar? A fraud? A traitor? A usurper? A foreign national?

If the shoes fit.


26 posted on 06/27/2009 10:54:12 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: justiceseeker93
It seems as if the motive of those pushing the British citizen argument and disparaging the importance of the Birth Certificate are trying to drive a wedge between what they perceive as two factions of the "Birther" movement and thereby weaken it.

What they are is not a faction at all. The fact is that the ones pushing the British Citzenship issue are the same ones who do not want us to see the long-form BC, which is something that ALL Birthers want -- despite what Donofrio or Tounchen say.

27 posted on 06/27/2009 10:58:07 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: Kenny Bunk; BP2

see posts 14 & 15


28 posted on 06/27/2009 10:59:08 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: PhiKapMom

Read my tagline.

I don’t care about 2012. I want the criminal forger ousted from office NOW.


29 posted on 06/27/2009 11:04:54 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: Yosemitest

He’s mentioned a long-debunked story when the alleged perp, Jay McKinnon OUTTED HIMSELF a year ago, July!

This guy sounds like a Nigerian scammer, even if he has a 100% rating on Ebay. What was he selling? Sports memorabilia?

He could show a heavily watermarked picture or a portion of the BC, but I don’t, for a moment, believe that this is legit.


30 posted on 06/27/2009 11:11:00 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Yes, and an SOB


31 posted on 06/27/2009 11:11:32 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: Yosemitest

when I went to ebay through your link — I could not find the listing.

Can you repost the link?


32 posted on 06/27/2009 11:12:25 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: mrmeangenes
I was getting worried that the stimulus-funded grant to the university might have slowed you down.

If, only.

I work in the real world. You don't know what it's like to work in the real world. They demand....results!

33 posted on 06/27/2009 11:13:25 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Legally, I don’t care where he was born, either. I already know that it’s not Hawaii.


34 posted on 06/27/2009 11:14:31 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: txoilman

No, the divorce papers are genuine. It’s all the stuff written on them that’s fake.


35 posted on 06/27/2009 11:15:58 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: ckilmer
For sale on eBay: Obama's 'Kenyan birth certificate, Seller claims Mombasa document 'certified copy' is the thread you need to read.

It was up to $7,901.00


36 posted on 06/27/2009 11:19:51 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
IMHO, this is the only mistake the Team Obama made. There was no need to post that fake-looking COLB

Correct, But that's not the ONLY mistake! The BIGGER one was posting the PHOTOS! Without those photos, I could not have proven conclusively that Obama posted a forged image.

Oh, I'm sure that Hawaii could produce a COLB that has the same infromation as the one in the photos, BUT, it would never look even close to what it is in those photos.

That was his THIRD mistake. Making another forgery to photograph from the same forged image he posted on his website.

If I had THAT COLB, I could make more money with it than the guy on Ebay.

37 posted on 06/27/2009 11:21:47 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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There are two things about that supposed divorce record.

1. There is NO filing No. on it.
2. I can't make out what (written in) date that is. At first glance it appears like says (sold) To many letters to say 2nd, and the year says 1954. I cannot make it out as 1964 even with a magnifying glass.

I can go online and fill out divorce papers but until they are filed with the court they are meaningless.

BPN do you have a copy of one showing a filing No.?

38 posted on 06/27/2009 11:22:10 AM PDT by Spunky (Quit breathing! You are contributing to global warming.)
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To: BP2
it's a matter of court record!

BULLSH*T! All I'm looking at are pieces of typed paper with forged signatures on it. What court in this country accepts forged signatures?

What court in this country accepts xeroxed copies of plain, typewritten documents without any evidenciary seals and official signatures ATTESTING TO THE AUTHENTICITY of this document? Both THEN AND NOW!

What court in this country conducts divorce proceedings WITHOUT A MARRIAGE LICENSE?

Plesase give it up, BP2. You're embarrassing yourself.

39 posted on 06/27/2009 11:29:04 AM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever!)
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To: ckilmer
This JUST IN ...
40 posted on 06/27/2009 11:33:22 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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