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The Truth About The Birther Movement
The Lid/Daily Beast ^ | 2/8/2010 | The Lid

Posted on 02/08/2010 9:40:03 AM PST by Shellybenoit

Joseph Farrah's speech at this Tea Party Convention this week brought the "Birther Movement" back into the forefront at least for a few days. At the convention Farrah said that the "Birther movement" was a key part of the Tea Party agenda, a thought that seemed to be rejected by most of the people at the convention. After his speech Andrew Breitbart and Farrah had a heated conversation about the speech and Brietbart's correct assertion that the birther argument is "not a winning issue.” (read more about their spat at Hot Air)

I guess I can be considered a "reformed birther," When I first started seeing the evidence during the campaign it made sense to me. That was until I saw the Barack Obama birth announcements that ran in local Hawaiian news papers. For those to be fake, Obama's mom would have to have seen into the future known he was going to run for president, and planted those announcements in 1961. The only other explanation was that someone at the DNC performed one of those Star Trek maneuvers, when they fly toward the sun to pick up speed, circle the sun and come back in the past. Since neither of those were rational explanations, right after the 2008 conventions, I published an anti-Birther post and took all of the other birth certificate stories of this site.

A story in today's Daily Beast caused me to remember where I first learned of the controversy surrounding the president's birth from disenfranchised Democrats, the PUMAs (Party Unity My Ass), former Clinton supporters who did not support Obama.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; breitbart; brietbart; certifigate; farah; naturalborncitizen; teaparty
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1 posted on 02/08/2010 9:40:04 AM PST by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


2 posted on 02/08/2010 9:41:45 AM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: Shellybenoit

It is absolutely idiotic to claim that the birth announcements serve as proof of anything regarding settling an issue of Constitutional eligibility. Besides the fact that it does not address at all the fact that Obama’s father was not an American citizen and thus Barry was not a natural born citizen.


3 posted on 02/08/2010 9:43:44 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: Shellybenoit

LOL I love the cartoon drawing at the end of the blog...


4 posted on 02/08/2010 9:44:48 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: Shellybenoit

I cant say with 100% certainty where BO was born. But I do know that the birth issue makes us look like conspiracy kooks. For now, lets stick to tea party principles. Smaller gov, less spending, the constitution. Then, once conservatives are elected to office we can turn them loose to investigate.


5 posted on 02/08/2010 9:44:49 AM PST by mouse1
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To: Shellybenoit

There’s only one problem with being a “reformed Birther”: it gives a pass to all the other documentation that needs to be revealed (30 SSNs for Opossum??).

Sometimes, ya take the bad with the good to get what you want.


6 posted on 02/08/2010 9:45:16 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Freepmail me to get on the Bourbon ping list.)
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To: Shellybenoit
Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).





governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.”


“The Hippies Who "Certified" Obama (Get a look at the 2 child-hippies who certified our "president")”


Kenya Sunday Standard headline — “Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate”

The Nigerian Observer — “Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win. The Kenyan-born Senator will…”

USAfrica — “Kenyan-born OBAMA makes history…wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House…”

AllAfrica.com — ” Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America’s first Black President…”


GraphicGhana.com — “For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this
presidential visit to the continent of his birth.” The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com.

The Ghana Times — “So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois state. A Congressional Quarterly
(CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.”

From the comment section:
(”AmericanDaughter“) NPR.org — “…She also describes the stories that have been exciting, including the U.S. presidential race of Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama.”

(”AmericanDaughter“) AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan born-senator, Barack Obama for the US presidency.” "


“Kenyan Historian: It's Odd that Kenyan Luo Tribe Member (Obama) Elected President in US Before Kenya (Audio)
We already knew that Barack Obama's brother Malik was a Luo activist and a militant Muslim
who argued that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture."




“Article in Nairobi Paper June 2004 - Barack born in Africa
An ongoing poll by AOL News currently shows that 58% of Americans have doubts
about Obama’s citizenship. The poll was started on July 28 and continues — you can go
here to vote. And lest you think that this survey is being conducted in a very anti-Obama
venue, the title of the article is Birthers, Beer and Stuck on ‘Stupidly’ — it is an
environment contemptuous of skeptics. So we can conclude that the results of their poll
are not what they were hoping for.

A scant five years ago, Barack Obama was a little known Illinois state politician, aspiring
to move up to the United States Senate. Undoubtedly, the Marxist handlers behind this
Manchurian candidate had long range plans to capture the US presidency since he was
groomed as a youth by Frank Marshall Davis. But the general public and the press were
not privy to this information.

At that time, there would have been no reason to fabricate a story about Obama’s birth
that would disqualify him for the highest US office. This would be especially true for an
African paper that was simply proud of their native son. So it is reasonable to take the
press clippings of the day at face value. The following item has been on the web all
along, but apparently did not get much attention. It is a June 2004 article from the online
version of the East African Standard, an English-language paper published in Nairobi,
Kenya, titled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.“


Br> “US Presidential Polls:Obama, McCain slug it out today
WASHINGTON – Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with
Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win.
The Kenyan-born Senator will, however, face a stiff competition from his Republican
counterpart, John McCain who has taken the presidential battle to the finishing line with
vigorous campaign strategies.”


“Americans Decide Today - go Obama (this site hasn't been scrubbed yet)
So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .
A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.”


“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates
, Hibarger said. “


"Security Breach May Lead To Obama Natural Born Status
A series of 2008 security breaches at the US State Department may indicate that someone knows Barack Obama’s true status as a natural born citizen - and is waiting for the right time to reveal it. The breaches, which occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14 of 2008, were done by two “low level” contractors and another in a mid-level position with no management role.
... An investigation of the incidents revealed that all three major presidential candidates - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain - had their passport files compromised.
... News of the security breaches prompted a statement from then-Senator Joseph Biden, who had not yet been chosen as Obama’s running mate. Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had oversight of the Foreign Service and the passport office.

“I am deeply troubled that State Department contract employees sought access to Sen. Barack Obama’s passport files,” the statement from Biden read. “Firing or disciplining those responsible is an important first step. But we need to understand why these employees had access to this information in the first place, why they sought the information, and why it took over two months for this matter to come to light. I urge the Secretary of State to promptly refer this matter to the State Department Inspector General for investigation.”
... On April 5, 2008, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigned from her post after a credit card scheme using US passport date was uncovered by the security probe. State Department Spokesman Tom Casey told The Washington Times that 24-year-old Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

From The Washington Times report:
The investigation began after Metropolitan Police on March 25 pulled over Mr. Harris in Southeast on suspicion that the windows of his vehicle were tinted too darkly.
After searching Mr. Harris and his vehicle, police found marijuana and 21 credit cards that were not issued in his name or the name of a female passenger with him. Police also found eight printouts of State Department passport applications, and four of the names on the applications matched four of the credit cards.
Upon questioning by agents from the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Postal Service and State Department, Mr. Harris “admitted he obtained the passport information” from a State Department employee, court documents say.

Mr. Harris also said the fraud ring submitted credit-card applications using the names and “identifying information” of the persons listed on the passport applications, and that a postal service employee then would intercept the cards before they were delivered to the appropriate residences.
Then, on April 17, 2008, Lt. Harris was found fatally shot dead slumped over the steering wheel of his car in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast DC."


Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.


.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."


"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."



Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).





governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.”

7 posted on 02/08/2010 9:46:09 AM PST by Diogenesis (Alea iacta est.)
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To: Shellybenoit

“The only other explanation was ... “

false or bogus dilemma. There are any number of explanations, one being maybe she found out what welfare benefits were available for single mothers where ever she was when she dropped what’s-his-name so returned to Amerika.

Black-or-White Fallacy
Alias:
Bifurcation
Black-and-White Fallacy
Either/Or Fallacy
False Dilemma


8 posted on 02/08/2010 9:46:46 AM PST by tumblindice (*Let me be clear=I'm going to lie to you now. Obamaspeak/English)
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To: Shellybenoit

I read somewhere that obama myface account has him listed as being born in 1957. if that’s true then the 1961 newspaper birth announcement for obama was a forgery.


9 posted on 02/08/2010 9:46:57 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: mouse1

It’s an issue which needs to be finessed carefully. Some months ago, a goodly portion of Southerners were not sure Bummer was born in the USA. The Rats would like to split these people off into parties like the Constitution or Libertarian parties, giving the Rats an extra oomph in the elections over the GOP.


10 posted on 02/08/2010 9:49:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Shellybenoit

I think it is just wasted effort to mine the birth certificate issue, and have always thought so.

Does anyone think Obama will be removed from office? Not going to happen.

The best thing to do is to pass legislation that from now on, to require certified proof of citizenship of all candidates for all offices to be placed on the ballot in any state.


11 posted on 02/08/2010 9:49:24 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: TheBigIf

I agree. He is hiding in plain sight. Proudly stating his father is a Kenyan citizen. I was taught that in order to be Prez one MUST have 2 parents who were U.S. citizens...you could be born on the moon but still be kosher IF that requirement was met.
I think those birth announcements were legit. But I still don’t get why the address ain’t right.


12 posted on 02/08/2010 9:50:41 AM PST by ozark hilljilly
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To: Shellybenoit
" Obama's mom would have to have seen into the future known he was going to run for president, and planted those announcements in 1961. The only other explanation was that someone at the DNC performed one of those Star Trek maneuvers, when they fly toward the sun to pick up speed, circle the sun and come back in the past"

Or someone photoshopped the image...duh

13 posted on 02/08/2010 9:51:31 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Shellybenoit
Thank you for posting this. I had no idea that the birth certificate brou-ha-ha was started by the PUMAs. It does cast a different light on the issue for me.

As far as the whole birth certificate controversy, I sometimes wonder if conservatives are being set up to look very very foolish one day. The president and his advisers are not to be trusted - and this is the very type of issue that could color all conservatives with the same brush of kookiness.

Yes, the president could make the whole thing go away by releasing the long form. But I remember a time when Gov. Palin was being asked to release her medical records to prove Trig’s parentage - and she refused, rightly so. To me, this birth certificate falls in the same category. Why doesn't he release it? Well, maybe because he chooses to not release it and a perverse part of him is enjoying watching the opposition boil and waste their time on this issue rather than the real issues.

I can't stand the man to the point I refuse to say or write his name, but I just don't see an issue. Like it or not, he's American born. And quite frankly, I very worried about this becoming a Litmus Test for conservatives - as in, if you aren't a birther, you're not a true conservative.

Something about this whole thing feels like a set-up to divide the opposition and get us at each other’s throats over an issue than cannot be proven. If the long form came out today, there are so many kooks out there who would claim it's a forgery the movement would never stop.

He's an American - get over it and move on to what's really important before we become so fragmented, the tearing apart of the Conservatives leads to 4 extra years of him.

14 posted on 02/08/2010 9:53:17 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Shellybenoit
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15 posted on 02/08/2010 9:53:19 AM PST by egannacht (Inalienable rights granted by...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“It’s an issue which needs to be finessed carefully”

Exactly, and it should not taint the Tea Party. If that happens, it brings into question the legitimacy of the tea party movement and other issues.


16 posted on 02/08/2010 9:54:19 AM PST by mouse1
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To: Shellybenoit

The ONLY truth in the matter is that NO ONE has seen ANY sort of proof that Obama is even a US citizen much less a natural born citizen.

If anyone has any information otherwise they are free to post it.


17 posted on 02/08/2010 9:54:54 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: mouse1
". For now, lets stick to tea party principles. Smaller gov, less spending, the constitution."

But let's ignore the part of the Constitution about presidential qualifications?? Seems you're taking out of both sides of your mouth.

18 posted on 02/08/2010 9:56:10 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I don’t mean to question you on SS but there could be more people with that name.


19 posted on 02/08/2010 9:56:13 AM PST by mel
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To: mouse1
"But I do know that the birth issue makes us look like conspiracy kooks."

You're absolutely right. I believe that many, if not most, of us know the truth. The fact is though that this argument, with the passage of time, has become moot and is very unlikely to ever bear fruit. In fact, in that the disdain and disregard for the Constitution is so rampant in this country (and especially among progressives) it could never have become a viable issue in the very beginning. I look forward to the day when the Constitution, once again, becomes the law of the land.

20 posted on 02/08/2010 9:57:32 AM PST by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental and social illness)
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