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On Birth Issue 'The Donald' Trumps Other Republicans
The American Thinker Blog ^ | March 24, 2011 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/24/2011 1:36:48 AM PDT by Scanian

If Donald Trump's goal is to differentiate himself from those jelly-kneed Republican candidates too timid to ask even the most basic questions about President Barack Obama's origins, he is doing a bang-up job of it.

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Wednesday morning on The View, Trump refused to buckle under the hectoring protests of the View panelists and even Whoopi Goldberg's shameless race baiting. "I want [Obama] to show his birth certificate!" said Trump defiantly, adding with a knowing edge, "There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like."

Here, Trump made precisely the right point. It is not that Obama was born in Kenya, but rather that there may very well be something on that certificate that does not square with the official Obama origins story, the one on which Obama based his political ascendancy.

In researching my book Deconstructing Obama, I found much that did match the accepted nativity story, most dramatically the fact that the storied Obama family never lived together. Indeed, there never was an Obama family save in the pages of Obama's often apocryphal memoir, Dreams from My Father.

When asked whether he could defeat Obama in 2012, Trump answered, "I think if I run and win and get the nomination, I definitely think I could beat Obama." If he sticks to his guns, he just might.


TOPICS: Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; theview; whoopigoldberg
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To: indylindy

In a way, I say “Good for him”

But why go on that garbage show? How can any good come of it? Any publicity derived from it is going to be negative after the media gets through with it.


61 posted on 03/24/2011 5:18:42 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: missnry; DrC
What you are describing was quite common in the 60's and 70's - I'm not sure if it is done today though.

This is what happened with Obama and why he refuses to release his BC - it will have no mention of Barack Obama Sr. or Barack Obama Jr. - It lists Lolo Soetoro as the father and Barry Soetoro as the child.

There is no marks or indications that the BC was amended in any way

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

62 posted on 03/24/2011 5:20:23 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Scanian

I don’t know why anyone would want to sit with those nincompoops, but I think they do it to show people they can handle the screeching loonies.

It gets media attention. Trump gets plenty of that without them though.


63 posted on 03/24/2011 5:25:08 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Mister Da

“So you saying the GOP would promote a candidate for POTUS that they are not sure is eligible. I will NOT support an ineligible candidate - they are ineligible. And I don’t care if they are Superman or one of the Disciples.”

I SUSPECT that they would do that and that is why they have given Hussein a pass on it. (we all know that party politics is a rough business)

Marco needs to find out the real story about his folks. He IS a politician of some experience and was Speaker in Tallahassee, so I don’t kid myself into thinking that he is as pure as the driven snow.

I think he’ll be a very good Senator and has started off well, IMHO. But if he has further aspirations, he needs to be honest about them.

I’d hate to see the son of refugees from communism held back but that’s just the way the cookie crumbles. The law needs to be applied equally to everyone, Obama first and foremost but the pubbies too.


64 posted on 03/24/2011 5:27:39 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: DrC
How does having Soetoro appear as his father pose a threat?

I believe he has sworn under penalty of perjury that he has never used a name other than Barack Hussein Obama. Perjury doesn't seem to be much of a problem for Dim Presidents, but who knows?

ML/NJ

65 posted on 03/24/2011 5:28:57 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: missnry

You may well be right, good insight, thank you!


66 posted on 03/24/2011 5:31:52 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: cricket

Were his parentS citizens at the time of his birth? If yes, he is a natural born citizen and eligible. If no, he is not. Pretty simple, really.


67 posted on 03/24/2011 5:31:56 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: expatguy
you might also note that Obama entered Occidental as Barry Soetoro

Do you have any documentation to support this assertion?

ML/NJ

68 posted on 03/24/2011 5:33:53 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Scanian

I saw the clip on IMUS this am. The most encouraging aspect was that the audience applauded that Obama should just release the BC.
Obvisously, this would be a VERY left leaning audience on the VIEW. If they want to see it, then everyone wants to see it.


69 posted on 03/24/2011 5:34:26 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: expatguy
This is what happened with Obama and why he refuses to release his BC - it will have no mention of Barack Obama Sr. or Barack Obama Jr. - It lists Lolo Soetoro as the father and Barry Soetoro as the child.

Out of the one million posts on the birth issue here on FR... this may be the top reason why he has spent millions to stop the release of it!

In a word, he is a FRAUD.

70 posted on 03/24/2011 5:35:38 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Nooseman

... his father being foreign.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Without the birth certificate we don’t know who his father is. There is also the issue of being adopted. Was he and by whom? Only certified long form birth certificates can definitively answer these questions.

As for Trump’s comments on the “The View”, consider the audience that watches this program. They are either barely capable of reading “The Globe” or they are completely illiterate. The subtleties of having two citizen parents is likely beyond them.

Trump brought the issue to the dumbest masses. Even they are aware of the problem now. Good for him!


71 posted on 03/24/2011 5:35:49 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Spaulding
I think a more effective way to get the real (and complete) issue in front of the public (and ensure that it is discussed and not ignored) would be billboards that just simply say in large black letters on a white background:

...of parentS who were its citizens

This would be a better use of the $$$ than the current "Where's the birth certificate" posters.

72 posted on 03/24/2011 5:39:56 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: woodbutcher1963

I just caught brief clips on Greta, I think it was.

Do you think the appearance benefitted Trump?

It’s good to know that airhead audience mainly agreed with him.


73 posted on 03/24/2011 5:41:34 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: indylindy

I still don’t know whether to take him seriously or not. But if he is willing to put up with those old biddies, maybe he does mean business.

If he gets rid of that dead animal on his head, we’ll know for sure.


74 posted on 03/24/2011 5:44:24 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: indylindy

I think he would be exactly what this Nation needs after the Obama mess. He has the guts and confidence to get the job done. Maybe a Trump/Romney ticket?


75 posted on 03/24/2011 5:45:36 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: Scanian

Trump needs to shave that awful combover and get a new look.

Hair can be a plus. In his case, less is best.


76 posted on 03/24/2011 5:47:49 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy
Trump needs to shave that awful combover and get a new look.

When I saw the letters "BC" in an earlier reply, I actually thought that meant "bad combover".

77 posted on 03/24/2011 5:59:15 AM PDT by NewMexLurker
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To: ml/nj

“I believe he has sworn under penalty of perjury that he has never used a name other than Barack Hussein Obama.”

But we already have proof-positive that isn’t true. He attended school in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro. I don’t believe anyone has challenged the authenticity of this record:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=72667

I’m not a legal-eagle, but assume that the question asked for his law license relates to names used as an ADULT. Thus, unless he kept using Barry Soetoro after he turned 18, he would not have been perjuring himself. Offhand, I don’t see why he would. Once he returned to Hawaii and enrolled in school, I believe he was known as Barry or Barack Obama, not Soetoro. Obviously, if he used the Soetoro name to improve his odds of getting into Occidental or Columbia or even Harvard, that would be problematic. But that would require its own independent proof. That is, the mere fact that Lolo showed up as his father on his BC wouldn’t prove that since, as I’ve indicated above, we ALREADY KNOW he’s used the name Barry Soetoro in his youth.

So I still haven’t heard a good reason why Barry would fight so hard to hide his BC if all that’s being hidden is the appearance of Lolo’s name on it.


78 posted on 03/24/2011 6:00:33 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Scanian

“Do you think the appearance benefitted Trump?”

Not sure and I do not care.
I just like the fact that somebody has the stones to say it on national TV. Trump is doing the job the the “press”
should be doing. The more the BC issue is brought into the mainsteam the better. Eventually it becomes the elephant in the room that you can’t ignore. It is no longer a fringe issue that the MSM wants to keep it. Then maybe we could see his transcripts and other records.


79 posted on 03/24/2011 6:01:31 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: NewMexLurker

ROTFL! My first laugh of the day.


80 posted on 03/24/2011 6:03:01 AM PDT by dforest
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