Skip to comments.Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)
Posted on 04/11/2011 8:55:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.
Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....
(Excerpt) Read more at kplctv.com ...
Just like the Certification of Live Birth shown on fightthesmears website is 'real'?
There is obviously a distinction. In the case of the transcript, you have the official issuer confirming the document as real. You could presumably get an investigator to go look at the public record and find it. They have a counterpart where they have converted the historical document to a computer entry which they have printed out for you (with the same entry data) and issued as a current official document.
Nothing on the COLB can be confirmed as real by anyone and it is almost certainly a photoshop manufactured document.
I will concede you could duplicate the U of W documents with photoshop but the U of W would tell you they weren't real.
Matter of fact, the circumstances and manner in which the U addressed the error about the August versus September issue ought to give you some comfort about the effort to preserve the actual record. Assuming the letter posted above is real, they are addressing circumstances in which they had given Corsi a letter attesting to the accuracy of the initial printout of the computer record reflecting conversion of the historical original entry transcript which computer conversion record is clearly in error. So they write this letter admitting error; describing why it happened; and describing the real facts; as we knew they existed. (By they way, I never talked to them. I have no idea what the impetus was to write the current letter--I have assumed you knew or made it happen although I have never thought to ask.)
Now their books of original entry might in fact have already been tampered with but what they are now saying is consistent only with the existence of one of the original old form transcripts in a binder. I remain on the position that it is difficult to see how that could have been created fraudulently but I am not going to say it is not possible.
This post of yours reminds me of something besides Zero when I look at MX.
When I looked thru the Tyees from 1961 to 1964, I ran across a couple of pages in one of them devoted to a school organization dedicated to bringing young people in from Kenya to attend the University. It had a lot of forerunner PC language in the write up and some photos of students from outside the U.S. What was it with the big push on Kenya at that time? There were plenty of countries in the world with people of Negro ancestry if that’s what the reason was. Why Kenya?
Why Kenya indeed! Why did Mabel Hefty, the teacher of whom zero speaks so highly, also visit Kenya? Mabel was in Kenya before the son-of-a-kenyan-goat-herder visited Hawaii in 1970, and Neil Abercrombie and Pake Zane visited Kenya in 1968...and isn’t Seattle a ‘sister-city’ of either Mobamsa or Nairobi?
Kenya-Kenya-Kenya...over and over.
perhaps you might follow it from here...link just came to hand.
All that tells me is that Leif was somebody who had been a member of the site for about two and a half years when he entered that post. It's the only post by him I see.
Maybe Charlotte got him to put the inquiry up?
I’ve had “Dreams” of staking out the WH dumpster, following the trash truck to its destination and snagging a butt that Zero had pressed between his purple lips. In reality, they probably burn all his trash just so that doesn’t happen.
OT But your FUBO x 10 would be better if it were FUBO ^10 LOL
If you look through a Tyee (U of W yearbook) from the early 1960’s, there are tons and tons of photos of girls wearing dark sweaters with that neckline and a string of pearls. They had an almost infinite resource available for photo parts.
sorry, I had missed these two posts.
with thanks to Hoosiermama:
Suhartos body was taken from Jakarta to the Giri Bangun mausoleum complex near the Central Java city of Solo. He was buried alongside his late wife in a state military funeral with full honours, with the Kopassus elite forces and KOSTRAD commandos as the honour guard and pallbearers and
Commander of Group II Kopassus Surakarta Lt.Colonel Asep Subarkah.
“One cannot hold down a job and jockey the globe at the same time.”
Sure you can, you just need the right job!
I’ll adjust it. I originally wanted to express it the 10th power but html would not work in the tag line. You solved the problem - thanks much.
And I do want to make it clear, I posted that ONE image of that (unnamed) girl only as an example. But HOW that cloning tool works as shown in the video, is fascinating.
As well, no doubt in my mind that Obama's Father is NOT the guru Kenyan of the early sixties; but am not at all convinced that SAD is not his Mother as Obama definitely favors her, photographically. But not discounting entirely; other possibilities. Still. . .find SAD reasonable; albeit what we know about her, is too, a bit 'biographically doctored'.
Quite possible, this clandestine birth began with SAD's being pregnant but not wanting birth father to know. . .say a married Frank Marshall Davis; or the ignominious, Black Panther cause celeb. A calculated maneuvering to insure, that there was no doubt, Obama did not belong to either of these men - while trying to synch with plausibility; his paternity to Obama; and hence, any number of inconsistencies, errors; and puzzle pieces, that do not fit.
(OR; OTOH. . .the paternity WAS known; and Obama groomed/paid for by communist; and/or Muslim hierarchy by NOI connections - which would lead one, more likely to 'Black Panther' paternity. Certainly no question of Obama's ME connections; Muslim sympathies and totalitarian world view. All of which fit, 'here'.
Bottom line; Obama's life began as a fraud; and continues to this day. We know there is nothing authentic to fill Obama's otherwise, empty suit.
Just learned last week; from reporting at WND that Obama and Michelle's name; no longer (was it ever. . .thought so) on mortgage of 'their' Chicago home; and now 'three' names - of supporters - have this holding/address; with exception of the two, who call this house; 'their home'. We knew about Pakistani Rezko; but the story has enlarged itself.
(At this point, with so many inauthenticities clamoring for attention; finding out SAD had a baby girl; and Obama was 'in hospital' for his missing Columbia months, could not be surprising. /sarc off/ of course; but hey, why not?)
We DO know that Obama is both fraud and perp; of the highest order; and we know - unlike his fake biography - his threat to America, is absolutely real. . .
That said; cannot wait for Corsi's book to come out. . .and hope it does per 'timely' and w/o any interference. . .
Becoming a waiter/waitress in some restaurant etc. Or a guest at some hoity toity function where they’re all drinking, someone with very good sleight of hand might be able to snatch something. But the SS is probably on top of everything.
Charlette runs SEATTLE MYSTERY TOURS...the inclusion of an address where she could write the future POTUS once lived, would have been another string to her bow. It was LEIF and Charlette who identified ANNA OBAMA as Stanley Ann Dunham, before they contacted Mary in Alaska.
The question now is, why did Mary, in later interviews, go along with it? Why the need to turn Anna Obama into SAD?
In HI they call those flower trees plumeria, and it does look like one. Kids do Halloween in HI although IIRC it doesn’t seem as big there (when I was there) as on the mainland.
Interesting. Now that I look at it, I see an odd shadow, very dark, directly behind her L elbow. On the air? On the grass? Do photos using a flash bulb do that? I am 100% ignorant about all things photographic.
I don't see anything mysterious about that image, Stanley Armour is shown at the beach with the same child - at about the same age. Doesn't tell us who else was there, or who his parents were.
One reason to add a pirate costume that I can think of is to make it fit into a certain time (October of some year), or to cover up something in the photo that would reveal something unwanted.
Yeah, I knew that’s what you meant. My point was, it was even easier than you knew.
I’ve been using the cloning tool on images for 14 years. I might use a different approach on the pearls photo. I’d pick a photo with a good neck, neckline, etc. Then I’d “lift” from another photo or create Ann’s head and paste it over the existing face and head paying attention to the size so it matched the neck and shoulder size (and angle to avoid something like the giraffe woman syndrome). Then I’d fix up anything in the background that might be showing from the original head. Depending on how it looked, I might do it over and, before I pasted her head on, I might erase the other head and blend the background first. At any rate, I wouldn’t have to even use layers or advanced tools to do it.
The boy sitting on SAD’s shoulders looks around 4 or 5 to me, a year or two older than in the pirate outfit.
I see I’m not the only one thinking about the One’s dna. btw, getting his dna wouldn’t necessarily solve the problem. You’d have to be able to prove where it came from.
Ok, this person is named Pete O'Neal and in this picture (shown below), he looks VERY similar to Obama (as well as Malcolm X and he named his son Malcolm, but I digress...)
So here is Pete... and get this, he is from KANSAS CITY and started the Black Panther Party chapter there. He has been on the run from the law since 1971 (it was all a set up, of course, all their arrests were set up *eye roll*)
Notice how similar his kid looks to a young Obama too...
Here is Pete with Odinga (of the Brinks Robbery with Weather Underground / mother and father of Bill Ayers adopted son)
Still doing some research... just struck me.
I’d stake my life on the fact those 2 were not in front of that flower tree for the photo. I am not surprised that the tree is easily recognizable as one that grows in Hawaii. That was the intent.
Example above...that could have been taken anywhere...outdoor storeroom with a padlock? Washtrough? Very odd.Looks like a holiday house of some kind.
This looks more like Hawaii. How old is he? About three?
LOL. ..and good question.
LOL. ..and good question.
Just an FYI....In going back to re-read some post, especially the long one, I noticed that pics of Obama on Photo Bucket were deemed to be against policy and were removed. I use a private ftp that is included with my ISP, but thought I would pass that along.
The top photo he looks to be 2 1/2 to 3. Houses in HI often are above the ground like that, with boards (at least the houses built some decades ago). The plant looks like a Hawaiian type plant, but I can’t put a name to it. Having an outside wash tub like that was or is common in HI.
Is there any record of Stanley Ann living in a house? The top photo is definitely not an apartment but a house. The bottom photo looks like HI - white sand, coconut palms. He looks about 4 in the bottom photo, to 4 1/2 or so.
Need to get Maya Ng’s, Ruth’s son Mark, and one of MX’s children.
It ain't this house!
Top picture; looks to me, like what is a typical - in many island (and elsewhere) areas - ‘wash’ center in back of house. Cabinet to left of outdoor sink, holds soap etc.
Not sure which two you meant.
You are the third or fourth rendition of this particular subject I have been through.
Although I had reached the point with Corsi that the difference between August 19 and September 19 didn't make a lot of difference, I am comfortable that if I ever got to court with that issue, I can prove it was September 19.
The story does make some difference at this point per my post to Fred #1101--the fact that the University has figured out that their initial letter to Corsi was wrong and has taken steps to remedy it in this context supports the position that they are concerned about the real record without regard to its affect on the Legend.
Oh, I didn’t realize we couldn’t use photobucket anymore!
Can I post links and someone help me show them?
Here is the page most are on...
And the other one...
..."The teachings of Malcolm X, who was then with the Nation of Islam, became a big influence on me at that time. After my release, I became involved in Black political activity in New York, especially revolutionary, nationalist politics. In 1964, I also became involved in the Cultural Nationalist movement. By 1965, I had joined the organization of African American Unity, founded by El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz (Malcolm X). I began to move with and among many young African Nationalists. My political consciousness was growing daily. I was reading and listening to many Afrikan Nationalists from Africa and the U.S. and became convinced that only after a successful armed struggle would New Afrikans gain freedom and self-determination. I also became convinced that integration would never solve the problems faced by New Afrikans...etc...
Another interesting tidbit...
We know Stanley (both father and daughter) were big jazz fans... Pete O’Neal grew up on 12th St in Kansas City which is the jazz capital of the world with Count Basie, etc... anyway, Pete ALSO named his daughter Ann.
The question now is, why did Mary, in later interviews, go along with it? Why the need to turn Anna Obama into SAD?
Reason of course is that Charlette was on the task of wiping Anna Obama off the record in Seattle and turning her into Stanley Ann.
But that in turn leads to the next question of why they cared? Your earlier question about the order--it would be better if the U of W transcript had come to light first; is correct.
The actual order does leave open the possibility that they created the transcript record to support the fairy tale.
But if you assume the transcript is a real record, the only explanation that occurs to me is that both Anna and Stanley Ann were there at the same time and if you didn't turn them into one person, there was a risk that someone would figure out there were two of them. In part, because Stanley Ann was in fact at the U and Anna was not. That's just raw speculation and there may be some other reasonable explanation.
Where are ‘Pete and Charlotte’ today?
Point was, if you had to, you could make it look like Barry (age 3 to 4 in those I would guess) grew up in Hawaii no matter where he was, including Chicago. That does not mean I dispute your idea that he showed up in Hawaii around age 3.
In response to your point, I would say that trying to figure out details of his life by relying on details provided by the photos may not have a lot of value either. The photos, after all, have been provided by the very same people who perpetrated this putrid fraud.
The code is < i m g s r c="insert url here" alt="insert identifying text or leave empty" />
There are no spaces ie img src= I needed to do that it would show up, I am sure someone can make it work but I am no html wiz. So if I take one of you urls and copy an image location it looks like this.
Re photobucket policy.
1. Does that mean all photos of Obama are no no’s there?
2. Where did you find that, please? Some of us need to check that out.
They have been in Tanzania since 1975 and live in a village off a mountain Meru. He and “Mama C” are like living Gods to the Black Panther Party.
Can you post the one of him and Charlotte with the one day old Malcolm? That is the one that strikes me as such a resemblance to Obama. And that he hung out in the EXACT SAME JAZZ CLUBS as Stanley Armour Dunham is more than a little odd.
I have all four of my high school yearbooks. My husband has all four of his high school yearbooks. My siblings all have all four years of their yearbooks. It’s more likely than not that at least half of her class would still have their yearbooks.
That will work in most cases. Some sites, however, can prevent “hot linking”. The linking to images on someone else’s server has been done (abused) by people who want to use an image but don’t want to pay to display them so some view it as stealing band width.
with missing pictures in a birther type thread. I have seen quit a bit of them in older threads. Not sure if the poster moved them or what, don't why the poster would remove them. But missing pictures that have seen all have this Photobucket image instead.
Sorry bout that. The first one was not showing up. Maybe a bandwidth problem from PB.
That observation does make me look at the chat-club conversation in an entirely new light.
LIEF WRITES: Hi, does anyone happen to know where the apartment is/was where B. Obama's mother lived on Capitol Hill? I'm really interested in Seattle history and have been striking out on the exact address. Apparently, before the C. Hill apt. she lived at a "Laurelhurst dormitory" near UW, but I don't know exactly where that is either, or if it still exists.
NOW DOESN'T THAT SEEM CONTRIVED? HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE...HAS NO ADDRESS...BUT CALLS HER B. OBAMA'S MOTHER. THEN CHARLETTE LE FEVRE REPLIES:
Interesting inquiry. If Stanley Ann Dunham was living on Capitol Hill that means our next President Barack Obama also lived on Capitol Hill as an infant. (Interesting he is going from Capitol Hill to Capitol Hill). If the time period was from around March 1962 to at least September 1962 then Barack Obama would have been around 7 months old.
There is a possiblity if Ann signed on with UW as a student that UW Housing may have records.
AND NOW SHE HAS THE OCCUPANTS, SHE HAS A TIME PERIOD, SHE GIVES THE AGE OF THE CHILD...AND SHE'S STRAIGHT INTO THE U OF WA...!
WRITES AGAIN TO CONFIRM!
Confirmed Barack Obama lived here on Capitol Hill. Document and photos to be posted soon
SHE'S FOUND IT!
Here you go,
Capitol Hill Times has now posted the article and photos. Barack Obama: From Capitol Hill to Capitol Hill http://www.capitolhilltimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=26&SubSectionID=248&ArticleID=27447
NOW THE LOCATION (There is no Mercer Republican corner, so she crossed out MERCER, no idea why.)
To be exact the plot of land was lot 9. It was mentioned by a former resident it was the second house in from the Mercer Republican corner.
AFTER CONTACTING MARY?? (BUT READING THAT AGAIN, IT WOULD SEEM SHE HAD ALL THAT BEFORE LEIF 'ASKED THE QUESTION' DOESN'T IT?
Babysitter of Barack was Mary Toutonghi who now lives in Alaska. She lived right below Ann and Barack. The name Toutonghi is listed in the city directory as residents of 516 13th Ave E, an address which is also confirmed by the Univ. of WA as the residence given by Ann Dunham Obama when she registered.
I THINK YOU HAVE IT RIGHT, DAVID. This sequence suggests a PRE-EMPTIVE MEASURE.
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