Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How Did Official Hawaiian Documents Record The Race of African-Americans in 1961?
Jefferson's Rebels ^ | 4/27/11 | Erica

Posted on 04/27/2011 8:13:52 AM PDT by EricaD

See image and article at: http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2011/04/question-how-did-official-documents.html

I raise this question because the long-form Certificate of Live Birth released by the White House today describes Obama Sr.'s race as "African." That word is common in today's usage, but because political correctness has renamed many cultural groups over time, was that the designation used for all black babies born at Kapiolani Hospital in the 1960s? Perhaps someone will release their birth certificate from that time as a comparison. In the meantime, I'm still searching for an answer.

Click to enlarge Interestingly, in the September 1968 issue of Ebony Magazine, on page 27, there is an article titled "The Negro In Hawaii". Throughout the article, the author never uses the term African, just "Negro." The article offers a balanced debate about the pros and cons of being a "Negro" in paradise. If black people of the 1960s era referred to themselves as "Negro," did the hospitals record the births of black babies as "Negro?"

Here's an excerpt from the article:

The interviewer asked how they would feel about having a Negro as a co-worker. The answer was unanimous: no problem. When asked how they would feel about a Negro as their immediate supervisor, again the answer was unanimous: no problem.

How they would feel if a Negro bought the house next door? A few had doubts, but again the majority fully accepted the possibility.

But then came the question: how would they feel if their daughter dated a Negro . . . or if she married a Negro. Suddenly the picture changed: the great majority drew the line here. They said, in effect, no dice.

How would they characterize Hawaii's attitude toward the Negro? Prejudiced, unprejudiced or partly prejudiced? They stated unanimously: partly prejudiced.

"People want equality for the Negro," said one, "so long as it doesn't affect them personally."

One local Caucasian believed that Hawaii tolerates the Negro because of the small number living here, but that the state still does not accept them.

So, if the state didn't accept black people, would it be reasonable to think that they probably listed a black child's race on a birth certificate as "Negro," rather than African?

What do you think?


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birth; certificate; certifigate; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-35 last
To: sten

UKC Passport. Obama, Sr. was BRITISH


21 posted on 04/27/2011 8:50:14 AM PDT by WellyP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: B212; Travis McGee; E. Pluribus Unum; NWFLConservative

I cannot imagine the British (in the 60’s) permitting the use of the word “African” to describe the race of white people born in Africa.


22 posted on 04/27/2011 8:51:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: EricaD

They damn sure weren’t known as African-Americans.That term didn’t arrive until much later in the 1970’s if I’m correct.


23 posted on 04/27/2011 8:53:44 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EricaD
NEWCOLB
24 posted on 04/27/2011 8:56:11 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberals Don't Have Scruples, Judgement or Morals...only MOTIVES.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

“...the question now is why did he spend millions of dollars trying not to release it?”
______________

To make birthers look like the crazy conspiracy theorists they are?

It’s “the economy, stupid”

- JP


25 posted on 04/27/2011 8:56:27 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: KeyLargo

“...the question now is why did he spend millions of dollars trying not to release it?”
______________

To make birthers look like the crazy conspiracy theorists they are?

It’s “the economy, stupid”

- JP


26 posted on 04/27/2011 8:56:38 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: FReepers
Take FR Across The Finish Line

Donate Monthly

27 posted on 04/27/2011 8:59:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EricaD

it’s very possible that when the parents filled out the information sheet, that they put African. And the staff who probably had very little experience with biracial children... just copied what was written.


28 posted on 04/27/2011 9:16:01 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FrankR; Fractal Trader

I believe the embossed seal concern can be answered according to the date of issue, 1966 v. 2011.

Currently acceptable forms of certification include a stamped, multi-colored seal (signature stamp).

That said, the “new” COLB released by the WH shows a grayscale (B&W) seal. That may be explained due to it being a photocopy onto safety paper. Which means that the seal was on the security paper -underneath- prior to the photocopy of the “log-book” COLB.


29 posted on 04/27/2011 9:22:27 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Mach9
This does make me wonder, though. Surely other blacks were born in Hawaii in 1961, if not at Kapiolani at Hickham or Pearl. How are their COLBs filled out?

Although Hawaii has been home to many mixed race Polynesian and Asian people, contemporary reports suggest that Barack Obama Sr. was the only black man on the island at that time. He was unquestionably the only African enrolled at UH during that time.
30 posted on 04/27/2011 9:27:48 AM PDT by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel
Exactly. They have now committed themselves fully in this, no turning back now. Obama would have been better off to just to continue to ignore it. I also find it very suspicious that after all his steadfast refusals to produce it and all the money he spent to block it's release, that he would give it up so easily now. If it is indeed a forgery, and I do believe it is, then that is certainly an impeachable offense. Bubba Klintoon got impeached for lying to the American publc. This is no different, in fact it is worse, because in addition to lying about it, he produced a forgery. More than one felony there.

Obama-lama-ding-dong HAD to know that this "document" would come under intense scrutiny. And if it is a forgery, it will be found out. I wonder where they found 50 year old paper to print it on?
31 posted on 04/27/2011 9:31:00 AM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: EricaD

Truth is.. ALL black people most africans and most mulatto’s ...ARE... Negros.. but mulatto’s can identify as one race or the other..


32 posted on 04/27/2011 9:31:41 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EricaD
I wonder it it was up to the father to self-identify his race. Being something of an “African nationalist” he might have been the “one in a million” who might use such an identifier. Personally, I'm much more interested in the fact that this appears to be yet another “secondary” creation of a document...not the actual original long-form Birth Cert document.
33 posted on 04/27/2011 1:29:35 PM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: slumber1

Hawaii had almost a million people at that time and is the home of multiple military bases. Barack Sr. was not the only black man in the State of Hawaii in 1961.


34 posted on 04/27/2011 3:28:17 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: GreenLanternCorps

I stand corrected. The source I consulted said Obama Sr. was the only African black (as opposed to American blacks) on the Island at that time.

According to the Hawaiian Journal of History there were almost 5,000 blacks in Hawaii in 1960 nearly all of them being from the US and connected to the US military

1960: Blacks - 4,943 Total population - 632,772


35 posted on 04/28/2011 8:20:31 AM PDT by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-35 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson