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Why Herman Cain Won and Rick Santorum Lost the GOP Debate
Below the Gnat Line ^ | May 6, 2011 | Ken Carroll

Posted on 05/07/2011 7:30:30 PM PDT by Ken in Eastman

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Warning: Vanity Post. Disclaimer: It is very early in the presidential election process/ I have not yet decided whom I will support, though it will not be the incumbent.

There is also a poll on the same page asking who YOU think won the debate.

Thanks,

Ken

1 posted on 05/07/2011 7:30:39 PM PDT by Ken in Eastman
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To: Ken in Eastman

Cain sucked less?


2 posted on 05/07/2011 7:31:58 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Ken in Eastman

Pawletty as far as I am concerned with his clean air crap can piss off, he blew it.

Why the hell can’t the GOP get a decent person to run for once?

Oh that’s right they have to be establishment and go with this biased media


3 posted on 05/07/2011 7:39:12 PM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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Agree on Pawlenty, plus, he just has a phony presentation to me. Finally, he just looks goofy.


4 posted on 05/07/2011 7:41:32 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: manc

Pawlenty


5 posted on 05/07/2011 7:41:49 PM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: Ikemeister

I never WAS for Pawlenty, but I was willing to listen to him....until the first words out of his mouth was all that mealy-mouthed bullhockey about thrilled he was about SC sponsoring the debate and on and on. Before he even finished those suck-up opening remarks he had lost me for good!


6 posted on 05/07/2011 7:45:19 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Ken in Eastman

Given the fact that NONE of these five could EVER beat Obobo in the general, should we care about them? What amazes me is someone like Gary Johnson—I mean, he’s the political equivalent of a bag lady at a wine tasting.


7 posted on 05/07/2011 7:54:01 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Ken in Eastman
Didn't see the debate. Appreciate your summary.
8 posted on 05/07/2011 8:04:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Ken in Eastman

None of that group is on the A list of name recognition but Herman made a strong case for VP.


9 posted on 05/07/2011 8:06:12 PM PDT by byteback
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Given the fact that NONE of these five could EVER beat Obobo in the general

I don't know, I would love to see Cain and Obama debate. This won't be like his Keyes debates, Cain has the skill like Obama of being relating to folks. It also won't be like Obama's McCain debates as Cain isn't afraid to go for blood. IF he could get that far, it could be a good and ugly fight and I think he could get Zero stumbling enough it could stand a chance. No matter who we get, it is an uphill fight because the media/pop-culture machine is behind Zero.

10 posted on 05/07/2011 8:22:39 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Ken in Eastman
Really? What the hell is a PREBATE? That has to be the stupidest answer ever in a debate since Dukakis went on his rape diatribe in '88. Didn't you hear Rick just openly discuss the radicalism of islam and stuffing the water boarding issue down Ron Paul's throat? He is soft on domestic issues here and there, but he is no worse then the rest of the field, he may be even a bit better.
11 posted on 05/07/2011 8:30:30 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Ken in Eastman

MITT ROMNEY won the debate.

As long as there are a bunch of right-wing candidates splitting up the conservative vote .... nobody to the right of Daniels & Romney can put together a large coalition. (Do ya think that was Fox’s objective in holding this debate?)

CAIN - getting teaparty support
Santorum - the serious pro-lifers
PAUL - has his crowd to himself

Conservatives are going to have fun with their own intramural contest to see who their favorite candidate is while MITT/Daniels waltz off with the nomination.

Maybe one strong candidate wins AMES in AUG, the others will go away. BUt I doubt it.


12 posted on 05/07/2011 8:34:51 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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13 posted on 05/07/2011 8:35:22 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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Pawlenty says he has a different position on Cap and Tax now.So if he changed his mind on such a big thing, WHY did he change it? Until he can explain why his position changed, then as far as I’m concerned he still favors Cap and Trade.


14 posted on 05/07/2011 8:36:57 PM PDT by Ken in Eastman (Those who ignore history are destined to vote Democrat)
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To: manc

Pawletty as far as I am concerned with his clean air crap blew it. Oh that’s right they have to be establishment and go with this biased media.

Pawlenty is out and will lose grassroots, and have to compete mainly with the RINO cash and support going to whats-his-name that wasn’t there, the Bush favorite.

The others were quite anti-establishment and will be nailed without mercy by the media. Cain is very well spoken as far as he goes but being nicely organized, and sharing chapter three of a BA text book seemed to me slightly elementary to me and by itself a campaign it does not make.

I liked Santorum. He seemed to be in a bad mood and I loved it. He is in your face about “family”, anti-abortion and no-holds-barred will take it to Obama. He is politically astute and so well knows the game that he has decided to go for broke.


15 posted on 05/07/2011 8:38:36 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: Ikemeister

Pawlenty needs a gay guy to cut his hair, seriously.

And primp him some.

That way he won’t look like the 70’s before mullets.


16 posted on 05/07/2011 8:40:17 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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>>>> Really? What the hell is a PREBATE? >>>

It is probably the most confusing part of the Fair Tax, which cannot be explained in a short post. The book explaining it is rather short, and if you really want to know how it works, it is cheap and quick and worth the read. Then decide.

I will say this: while I have mixed feelings on the Fair Tax, 99.9% of the drive by comments about it are based in ignorance of how it works. Is it perfect? No. Then again, it is a heckuva lot better than what we have now.


17 posted on 05/07/2011 8:40:53 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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I agree with the Fair Tax. I also agree that it is not perfect. My problem, and one of the very few, is that Cain went into this in a short answer debate. No way to sell a fantastic idea. That is why I defended Rick on his answers when the obvious winner threw out this garbage answer.


18 posted on 05/07/2011 8:48:23 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I think I agree with your last post 100% in fact.


19 posted on 05/07/2011 8:50:14 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: Ken in Eastman

Santorum is not impressing me, and I was hoping for a lot more from him. I’ve read inspiring political commentaries of his and he is able to put good conservative thought into words, and I longed hoped he would seek seriously the office of the Presidency. But there is another that is somewhere between a complete bore, and a Romney Light. At the debate we saw the complete bore.


20 posted on 05/07/2011 8:51:07 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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