Posted on 11/22/2011 10:10:27 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
The big theme out of Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate in Washington was Newt Gingrich's compassionate stance towards illegal immigrants who have put down deep roots in the U.S.
That position by Gingrich, who has recently surged to join Mitt Romney at the head of the Republican field according to recent polls, conflicted with the more hardline views of many conservative voters.
Many of those GOP voters who will decide their party's nominee oppose allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S., period.
The immediate question for Gingrich was, after boldly defending his position that illegal aliens who've lived in the U.S. for many years, establishing families and belonging to churches, should be allowed to remain in the U.S., would Gingrich now suffer the same fate as Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
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Some of have been trying to warn you that Gingrich is an illegal lover also. lad he came out again and said it.
Here’s the deal. Newt. You close the borders. You put a heavy civil and criminal penalty on companies that hire illegals.
You get rid of the social give away’s for illegals, including anchor babies.
Then you tell the ones who elect to try and stay after all of that...because doing those things will cause a majority of them to self deport...that they have 90 days to turn themselves in, to identify themselves. if they do so, we will deport them and allow them to apply for visas or citizenship through the normal legal channels (unless they are found to be criminals or enemies).
After the 90 days, they will be crinimally sought out, found, prosecuted and deported with a lifetime ban on any vissa or immigration to this country in the future.
Then, we use our full law enforcement powers to go after the criminal drug dealers and other hardened criminals whom we show no mercy to.
Once we do all of that, then we can look at adding a potential workers program to our legal visa and immigration policy that allows them to come here for jobs that are offered to American citizens first, which if they get are limited to a maximum of 12 or 24 months without bringing their families and with no amnetsy or pathway to citizenship...though with the work visas we already have, there may not be a need fo it.
That’s not heartless, that’s just defending the soveriegnty of our Republic.
AMEN!
Since we're approaching the dawn of 2012, it saddens me that, here in Dallas (and doubtlessly elsewhere), the first baby born of the New Year (as announced annually by the newspaper) is invariably a Mexican, probably one of those anchor babies of an illegal.
Back in 2009, it was a baby from a 15-year old eighth grader (Fernanda Rios), born out of wedlock. That's been the norm here for more years than I care to remember.
If this blows back on Newt, who would gain? Perry?
Hard line GOP? ...the majority of Americans do not want amnesty. more race card crap..
Cain said pretty much the same thing.
Newt also said NO citizenship for those few he would allow to stay.
Also said he supports ONE aspect of the dream act, namely, that those brought here as children through no choice of their own, could have a path to citizenship by serving in the militarty.
Flame on, but I agree.
I know he's supposed to be smart, but where's the logic. The longer an illegal immigrant has broken our laws and sucked tax dollars from our pockets, we should have an obligation to keep them. That seems to be what he's saying. Someone needs to let him know that the people he thinks should stay have stolen from the American people. If the thought of breaking up families is too much for him, let's send their children and grandchildren home with them. IMHO, all their property should be confiscated to help reimburse the taxpayers for the handouts they received.
We must draft, nominate and elect Sarah Palin president in the most crushing tidal wave of enthusiastic good judgment ever seen in the history of this nation. With that one bold move we will accomplish the dual goals of seeing America led by the greatest natural born leader in our generation, even as we witness the final implosion and last agonized shrieks of our endlessly lying extreme left loonies. Their entire movement, from the fabricated attacks on Bush beginning with ‘Blood For Oil’ to the crammed-down-our-gullets lies of Obamacare and the Shovel Ready Stimulus, have been nothing but one vile deceit heaped upon another. Such an absolute inability to deal in the truth or to face the facts of our situation and its solutions only proves that there is simply no place at the grown-ups’ table for these diseased sputa. Good riddance to rubes and bad rubbish. Time to usher in the American Renaissance, carried in on the invigoratingly freshening breeze of President Sarah Palin.
Exactly. I hate how these panderers try to frame it as a choice between amnesty or rounding up illegals and mass deporting.
I was gravitating toward Newt and he lost me tonight. Hope Palin doesn’t endorse him.
NPR, NYT, Washington Post, and the rest of the Obama-loving media outlets. They rally against anyone they perceive as a threat to Mitt.
You just figured out the solution to the “illegal immigrant problem.” I’m not kidding. But will it be implemented? Of course not.
“Newt also said NO citizenship for those few he would allow to stay.”
It isn’t just a few, my FRiend. You are deceiving yourself. There are millions of them. Newt has always been for amnesty, way back when Reagan first did his amnesty. Newt was for that too, and he is still of the same mindset. Don’t fool yourself or others about Newt.
Right, Reagan did amnesty too, and look how bad he turned out... /s
For the LAST, they are NOT debates! Get it?
Gingrich is the only one who has confronted the issue with a specific plan. If people don’t like it, they can offer suggestions. But the entire immigration system needs reforming, and he seems to be the only candidate who grasps this.
Perry’s done.
Ah, the slick rhetorical flourish of the typical pol. The Hallmark card anecdote to make everyone feel just so warm and fuzzy.
What about illegals who have NOT established families and gone to (acceptable) churches?
Does the typical pol actually believe that the rest of us don't get the fact that trying to "sort" illegals based on a subjective evaluation of whether the lives they have had here are "good" or "bad" is not only an administrative and legal nightmare, but a scam that is designed to fail so as to result in simple amnesty based on the length of time one has been here illegally?
And, just asking: how much is it going to cost to try to prevent fraud as to when people claimed they arrived here illegally? How much is it going to cost to litigate all the cases challenging an "arrival date" finding?
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