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1 posted on 11/22/2011 10:10:28 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Some of have been trying to warn you that Gingrich is an illegal lover also. lad he came out again and said it.


2 posted on 11/22/2011 10:12:54 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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Here’s the deal. Newt. You close the borders. You put a heavy civil and criminal penalty on companies that hire illegals.

You get rid of the social give away’s for illegals, including anchor babies.

Then you tell the ones who elect to try and stay after all of that...because doing those things will cause a majority of them to self deport...that they have 90 days to turn themselves in, to identify themselves. if they do so, we will deport them and allow them to apply for visas or citizenship through the normal legal channels (unless they are found to be criminals or enemies).

After the 90 days, they will be crinimally sought out, found, prosecuted and deported with a lifetime ban on any vissa or immigration to this country in the future.

Then, we use our full law enforcement powers to go after the criminal drug dealers and other hardened criminals whom we show no mercy to.

Once we do all of that, then we can look at adding a potential workers program to our legal visa and immigration policy that allows them to come here for jobs that are offered to American citizens first, which if they get are limited to a maximum of 12 or 24 months without bringing their families and with no amnetsy or pathway to citizenship...though with the work visas we already have, there may not be a need fo it.

That’s not heartless, that’s just defending the soveriegnty of our Republic.


3 posted on 11/22/2011 10:14:32 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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If this blows back on Newt, who would gain? Perry?


5 posted on 11/22/2011 10:28:00 PM PST by bigbob
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Hard line GOP? ...the majority of Americans do not want amnesty. more race card crap..


6 posted on 11/22/2011 10:35:00 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" @THEHermanCain)
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Newt also said NO citizenship for those few he would allow to stay.

Also said he supports ONE aspect of the dream act, namely, that those brought here as children through no choice of their own, could have a path to citizenship by serving in the militarty.

Flame on, but I agree.


8 posted on 11/22/2011 11:02:20 PM PST by moonhawk (Broken Heart(less) Hobbit for Sarah...Now for Newt)
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The immediate question for Gingrich was, after boldly defending his position that illegal aliens who've lived in the U.S. for many years, establishing families and belonging to churches, should be allowed to remain in the U.S., would Gingrich now suffer the same fate as Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

I know he's supposed to be smart, but where's the logic. The longer an illegal immigrant has broken our laws and sucked tax dollars from our pockets, we should have an obligation to keep them. That seems to be what he's saying. Someone needs to let him know that the people he thinks should stay have stolen from the American people. If the thought of breaking up families is too much for him, let's send their children and grandchildren home with them. IMHO, all their property should be confiscated to help reimburse the taxpayers for the handouts they received.

9 posted on 11/22/2011 11:08:40 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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We must draft, nominate and elect Sarah Palin president in the most crushing tidal wave of enthusiastic good judgment ever seen in the history of this nation. With that one bold move we will accomplish the dual goals of seeing America led by the greatest natural born leader in our generation, even as we witness the final implosion and last agonized shrieks of our endlessly lying extreme left loonies. Their entire movement, from the fabricated attacks on Bush beginning with ‘Blood For Oil’ to the crammed-down-our-gullets lies of Obamacare and the Shovel Ready Stimulus, have been nothing but one vile deceit heaped upon another. Such an absolute inability to deal in the truth or to face the facts of our situation and its solutions only proves that there is simply no place at the grown-ups’ table for these diseased sputa. Good riddance to rubes and bad rubbish. Time to usher in the American Renaissance, carried in on the invigoratingly freshening breeze of President Sarah Palin.


10 posted on 11/22/2011 11:21:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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For the LAST, they are NOT debates! Get it?


17 posted on 11/23/2011 3:53:00 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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Gingrich is the only one who has confronted the issue with a specific plan. If people don’t like it, they can offer suggestions. But the entire immigration system needs reforming, and he seems to be the only candidate who grasps this.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 4:46:23 AM PST by livius
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establishing families and belonging to churches,

Ah, the slick rhetorical flourish of the typical pol. The Hallmark card anecdote to make everyone feel just so warm and fuzzy.

What about illegals who have NOT established families and gone to (acceptable) churches?

Does the typical pol actually believe that the rest of us don't get the fact that trying to "sort" illegals based on a subjective evaluation of whether the lives they have had here are "good" or "bad" is not only an administrative and legal nightmare, but a scam that is designed to fail so as to result in simple amnesty based on the length of time one has been here illegally?

And, just asking: how much is it going to cost to try to prevent fraud as to when people claimed they arrived here illegally? How much is it going to cost to litigate all the cases challenging an "arrival date" finding?

20 posted on 11/23/2011 5:37:16 AM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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Ah, what about compassion for unemployed Americans and their kids—Newty? This pompous idiot has once again stepped in a big pile of elephant doodoo. Like the love seat photo op with Pelosi, the explanation will be “inexplicable”.

Way to go Newt!


21 posted on 11/23/2011 5:37:42 AM PST by dools0007world
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Why is it so insensitive to require people to return to their country of origin and citizenship? We don’t have the same concerns about “breaking up families” and “cruelty” when we give drug offenders long sentences in the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The fact that we are even having this debate is proof that we have completely lost control of out government.


27 posted on 11/23/2011 5:45:30 AM PST by Fast Ed97
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Newt gave an honest answer.

If you think any of the others are going to do anything else other than what Newt said you are dreaming.

I know you don’t like his answer, I don’t either,
I like the answer given in Post number 3 ,but that isn’t going to happen.

No way are we going to round up 20 to 40 million illegals and send them back to wherever the hell they came from. If you listen to any politician say they will do that you are listening to a lie.

Like Newt or not , he gave an honest answer.


29 posted on 11/23/2011 5:48:29 AM PST by Venturer
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Cain says to enforce current laws to deal with the illegal alien invasion.

What a concept—either ENFORCE or CHANGE a law!
No amnesty scams of any kind—you want illegals legal CHANGE THE LAWS!!!
At least PRETEND we have a constitution,ok?

31 posted on 11/23/2011 5:56:43 AM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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Think carefully about what Newt said. He said,

“Is it inhumane to deport an illegal immigrant who came to the United States 25 years ago,”

Why did he choose 25 years ago and not 20 or 30.

People assume that 25 years was just a number that Newt pulled out of his ass.

It is not.

Think back about about what happened 25 years ago.

That would be 1986.

That was the year Ronald Reagan’s bill gave amnesty to the then current residents in exchange for sealing the border.

The border wasn’t sealed and millions more Mexicans and other poured over the border.

The people who came after 1986 were illegal. But the people who came before 1986 were legalized if they bothered to come forward.

So Newt is talking about a law that is already on the books.


34 posted on 11/23/2011 6:17:10 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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“Newt Gingrich’s compassionate stance towards illegal immigrants”

Typical viewpoint of National Proletariat Radio: always concerned about “them”, never concerned about “us”.

How NPR and Neut: how about a little compassion for the hardworking, law-abiding American citizen for a change? We’re sick of seeing our country invaded while the elites get their contributions from the Chamber of Commerce and look the other way.


36 posted on 11/23/2011 6:29:06 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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