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Gingrich's Illegal Immigration Tolerance Marks GOP Security Debate
NPR ^ | Nov. 23, 2011 | Frank James

Posted on 11/22/2011 10:10:27 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

The big theme out of Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate in Washington was Newt Gingrich's compassionate stance towards illegal immigrants who have put down deep roots in the U.S.

That position by Gingrich, who has recently surged to join Mitt Romney at the head of the Republican field according to recent polls, conflicted with the more hardline views of many conservative voters.

Many of those GOP voters who will decide their party's nominee oppose allowing illegal immigrants to remain in the U.S., period.

The immediate question for Gingrich was, after boldly defending his position that illegal aliens who've lived in the U.S. for many years, establishing families and belonging to churches, should be allowed to remain in the U.S., would Gingrich now suffer the same fate as Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegals; immigration; newtito
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ah, what about compassion for unemployed Americans and their kids—Newty? This pompous idiot has once again stepped in a big pile of elephant doodoo. Like the love seat photo op with Pelosi, the explanation will be “inexplicable”.

Way to go Newt!


21 posted on 11/23/2011 5:37:42 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: Jeff Head
That’s not heartless

You're mixing up Newt and Perry.

It was Perry who said you were heartless, Newt said you were not humane.

LOL not really

22 posted on 11/23/2011 5:39:19 AM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: moonhawk

How does not allowing them to become citizens change anything?


23 posted on 11/23/2011 5:42:14 AM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Jeff Head

Excellent post. States that enacted tough illegal alien laws did not spend any money deporting them. The illegals left the states on their own two feet. If our Federal laws mirrored the tough state laws the same thing would happen. Most illegals would depart on their own two feet. The nonsense about it taking a line of busses from the Texas/Mexico border clear back to Alaska to deport illegals was and is just that—nonsense.


24 posted on 11/23/2011 5:42:22 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: Razz Barry
I know he's supposed to be smart, but where's the logic.

The logic is political.

There's a reason Gingrich takes Spanish lessons from a private tutor every Sunday.

25 posted on 11/23/2011 5:43:34 AM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: ez

It’s not a question of how Reagan “turned out.” It’s about how amnesty turned out.


26 posted on 11/23/2011 5:45:02 AM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why is it so insensitive to require people to return to their country of origin and citizenship? We don’t have the same concerns about “breaking up families” and “cruelty” when we give drug offenders long sentences in the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The fact that we are even having this debate is proof that we have completely lost control of out government.


27 posted on 11/23/2011 5:45:30 AM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: livius

Where have you been?


28 posted on 11/23/2011 5:45:49 AM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Newt gave an honest answer.

If you think any of the others are going to do anything else other than what Newt said you are dreaming.

I know you don’t like his answer, I don’t either,
I like the answer given in Post number 3 ,but that isn’t going to happen.

No way are we going to round up 20 to 40 million illegals and send them back to wherever the hell they came from. If you listen to any politician say they will do that you are listening to a lie.

Like Newt or not , he gave an honest answer.


29 posted on 11/23/2011 5:48:29 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, you nailed it. Why can’t Mr. Border state, have a heart Perry and Mr. family values, smartest man in the room Gingrich get this? The only conclusion is the lure of hispandering for votes is too strong a force to consider the obvious.


30 posted on 11/23/2011 5:52:37 AM PST by TADSLOS (Lexicon Genetics- Rick Perry's Solyndra Moment)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Cain says to enforce current laws to deal with the illegal alien invasion.

What a concept—either ENFORCE or CHANGE a law!
No amnesty scams of any kind—you want illegals legal CHANGE THE LAWS!!!
At least PRETEND we have a constitution,ok?

31 posted on 11/23/2011 5:56:43 AM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FX & Friends reported that Clear Politics is saying that Palin may be coming out with an endorsement and they think it is .....Newt.

I wondered last night if he was fishing for her endorsement when he talked drill, baby, drill.

For all we know, they have talked!

Immigration has never been an issue with her.

32 posted on 11/23/2011 6:00:15 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: livius

Allowing low IQ nonwhiteThird Worlders a privileged status will be the death of a culturally western United States, no matter what Newt’s parish priest and Opus Dei propagandists tell him. Ditto those who support a Third World low-IQ cesspool like Puerto Rico becoming a state. These people are culturally incompatible with the values of the shrinking European-American majority, and pols like Newt who sell us out to Third World mouth breathers are guilty of cultural treason.


33 posted on 11/23/2011 6:03:24 AM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Think carefully about what Newt said. He said,

“Is it inhumane to deport an illegal immigrant who came to the United States 25 years ago,”

Why did he choose 25 years ago and not 20 or 30.

People assume that 25 years was just a number that Newt pulled out of his ass.

It is not.

Think back about about what happened 25 years ago.

That would be 1986.

That was the year Ronald Reagan’s bill gave amnesty to the then current residents in exchange for sealing the border.

The border wasn’t sealed and millions more Mexicans and other poured over the border.

The people who came after 1986 were illegal. But the people who came before 1986 were legalized if they bothered to come forward.

So Newt is talking about a law that is already on the books.


34 posted on 11/23/2011 6:17:10 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Clemenza

I agree with that whole-heartedly.


35 posted on 11/23/2011 6:20:28 AM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Newt Gingrich’s compassionate stance towards illegal immigrants”

Typical viewpoint of National Proletariat Radio: always concerned about “them”, never concerned about “us”.

How NPR and Neut: how about a little compassion for the hardworking, law-abiding American citizen for a change? We’re sick of seeing our country invaded while the elites get their contributions from the Chamber of Commerce and look the other way.


36 posted on 11/23/2011 6:29:06 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ez

“Right, Reagan did amnesty too, and look how bad he turned out... /s”

On that particular issue it didn’t turn out well at all, did it. He gave amnesty to 5 million, it is now over 15 million illegals that infest our country. So we surely don’t want to make the same mistake again, do we, with Newt giving amnesty to 15 million, so that next time it can be 25 million. Hang out the welcome sign, .... right.


37 posted on 11/23/2011 7:35:31 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: bigbob
If this blows back on Newt, who would gain? Perry?

Not Perry - people left Perry over this because he thinks they don't have a heart. And remember, Perry was proposing a visa program to let illegal immigrants come and go freely earlier this month. I'm surprised Perry wasn't asked to explain it last night.

People aren't going to go to Romney or Huntsman either, so take your pick of the other candidates.
38 posted on 11/23/2011 7:53:42 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: TADSLOS

We need new pols in Washington. Not all...but a lot. The 2010 indcutees as a result of the Tea Party activity are, for the most part pretty good.

We need another election this year doing the same, bringing down to earth, common-sense Americans into position who know how to and are willing to balance a check book, defend our borders and uphold the laws, drill for our own oil in a massive way, lighten the regulationa nd tax burden on companies so they will want to do business here again, and unleash the American people.

IMHO, Herman Cain is still the best candidate in the field that we have to preside over those things happening...to get behind them and with no-holds barred use a majority in the House and Senate to make sure it happens.

Herman Cain for America vs. Barack Obama, the man who despises America
http://www.jeffhead.com/cainvsobama.htm


39 posted on 11/23/2011 7:57:34 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: fightinJAG

“How does not allowing them to become citizens change anything?”

Uh...by denying them the right to vote.

Remember, he’s only talking about those who have shown them to be productive members of society, also, not welfare sinks.


40 posted on 11/23/2011 8:46:10 AM PST by moonhawk (Broken Heart(less) Hobbit for Sarah...Now for Newt)
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