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Why I Won't Vote for Mitt Romney If He is the GOP Nominee
http://libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com/2011/12/why-i-wont-vote-for-mitt-romney-if-he.html ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 12/15/2011 1:44:32 PM PST by libertarian neocon

This is really not a place I thought I'd be at. Up until very recently I didn't even think there was a Republican that could be nominated that would keep me home on election day or vote for a 3rd party. I think I have found that candidate and it is Mitt Romney. There are two main reasons for this, the first being that I really have no idea what he actually stands for. I don't think anybody does. And I think that chances are high that he doesn't really stand for much that is different than Obama's current policies. Let's take a quick look at his record:

So let's see, implemented a socialist healthcare system, raised taxes, opposed tax cuts, proposed a draconian decrease in greenhouse emissions, was for increasing the minimum wage, signed a permanent assault weapons ban and appointed liberal judges. His record in Massachusetts is simply dreadful and really makes it hard to see how he would be that much different than Obama.

Even in this primary season, in which his rhetoric is the most conservative you will probably see Mitt act in his lifetime (if he gets the nomination, expect him to move to the left for the general election), it's unclear how different he is. Take foreign policy. His biggest issue with Obama is that he is withdrawing the "surge troops" in September 2012 instead of December 2012. Really, a 3 month difference? Is that why I am supposed to vote for you? What about arguing that we keep the troops there until we win? Have we forgot about having actual victory as a goal? It seems Mitt has. Then, on Israel, his biggest issue with Obama's policies seem to be that he criticized Israel in public instead of in private. Big friggin deal. As a strong Israel supporter I am not for any US President who will turn the screws on the Jewish state whether it be out in the open or behind closed doors. I want someone who actually supports Israel, one of our closest allies, and will work together against common foes. Then of course there was the exchange with Newt in which Romney defended capital gains tax cut being limited to those making under $200,000 in language similar to Obama's. "I'm not worried about rich people. They are doing just fine."

So tell me again why I should be voting for Mitt? Have you noticed that most Mitt proponents seem to focus on the idea that he is the "most electable" as the reason to vote for him with almost no mention of his record? The most they can scrounge up are some quotes with promises from the Romney campaign. Yes, promises from a guy who changes his mind like you change your underwear. I think the real reason that much of the establishment Republicans support Romney is because of the same old Washington game. It really doesn't matter to them what the ideology of the candidate is, as long as he wins and you are friends with his close advisors. And since Romney has been the front runner for so long, each one of those establishment reporters have spent months, even years schmoozing with the campaign and have dreams of close access with a sitting President and possibly even an undersecretaryship. How else do you explain their visceral reaction to Gingrich, the first realistic challenger to Romney. Newt has issues, sure, but has it deserved the relentless negative attacks? Sure, he isn't a perfect conservative but very few are. Even Rick Santorum has favored pork projects, steel tariffs and medicare part D. You don't see the press attacking him for it. Or even Ron Paul who is polling as #2 in most Iowa polls. That's because the Romney supporters in the press don't feel either of them are a threat to them achieving the access/position they have been waiting for.

And this brings up the second big reason why I won't be voting for Mitt Romney if he wins the nomination. His treatment of his Republican opposition. This man acts just like Obama, someone who will do anything to be President. It is one thing to compete with a candidate for votes through a fair description of differences in record etc., but it's another thing to be out to destroy another candidate, especially another Republican. And that is exactly what Romney and his minions are trying to do with Newt, they are trying to destroy him. Even people who aren't in Newt's camp, like Mark Levin are seeing this happen before our eyes. Really, the temerity of Romney saying that Newt is an unreliable conservative after having a record as horrible as he had in Massachusetts? Referring to him as "zany"? Having surrogates character assassinate in the press on an almost daily basis? It's not like Newt did anything to deserve any of this. He didn't climb to the top of the polls through negative ads on Romney, he climbed to the top by appearing as an elder statesman in a weak candidate field and having the ability to actually explain why he believes what he believes. He also has a proven record of balancing budgets and passing entitlement reform under a Democratic President! Is that so wrong? And this isn't the first time Romney did this, as he also launched negative attacks on both Huckabee and McCain (though he didn't have the press in his pocket back then because Giuliani and Thompson were thought to have a greater chance at the nomination early on).

Things have become so bad that you face character assassination just for opposing Romney. Rudy Giuliani had a rant against Romney today focusing on his flip flops. Jennifer Rubin attacked him for this by tweeting "Romney will never win over the adulterers no matter how hard he tries". Really? That is all Rudy Giuliani is now? An adulterer? How about the NYC mayor who showed real leadership while his city was under attack by Al-Qaeda, with thousands dead, including many members of the local police and fire departments? He's a hero and doesn't deserve to be called an adulterer for voicing an opinion about a candidate.

And unfortunately, even Paul Ryan, who has become engulfed by the establishment, has come in on the act with a completely dishonest attack on Newt. Just yesterday (as in 1 day ago) he said "This is not the 1990s. The 'Mediscare' is not working and we should not back down from this fight. I, for one, believe the country is ready, they're hungry for it. They are ready to hear real solutions. We shouldn't wait around for the status quo to become popular. Leaders don't follow the polls, leaders change the polls." And what did he do today? He announced the Ryan-Wyden plan which waters down his reforms tremendously and possibly eliminates any actual benefit from medicare reform. The Washington Post has this choice line "Ryan and Wyden acknowledged that their plan might not bring in more savings than under the current law." Is this how leader's lead? Also, apparently Ryan and Wyden won't even write the proposed legislation any time in the near future, likely waiting until 2013 (I guess they have time as there will be no benefit coming until 2022).

And there you have it. Neither Romney's record nor his rhetoric are something that I would actually want to vote for. He is, in many ways, little different from the guy who Romney supporters claim Romney would be best at getting rid of. I am also very much turned off by his character, which is supposedly exemplary but is, in actuality, that of a calculating political operative only interested in himself. As I've mentioned before, he is the Dorian Grey of the GOP and I stick by that. I am also sick of the establishment thinking they can ram a candidate down our throats, without even a single vote being cast! Unlike normal people, they care more about which party is in office, than the ideology of the guy actually in office. They are the ones behind the Democrat-lite candidates that we had in almost every election since 1936. No wonder government has continued to expand at such a fantastic rate. If the Democrats win, they expand government. If the Republicans win, they also expand government. I'm tired of that cycle and I'm tired of having to vote between the lesser of two evils.

I also think those of us who believe in small government need to take a stand against MItt Romney in order to save the Tea Party movement. I think that if after all the effort to fight Obamacare and to win back the House ends up with us getting someone like Mitt Romney, many Tea Party supporters will just throw up their hands in disgust and walk away from caring any more. Focusing more on their jobs and family rather than politics. This will ensure both that the GOP will lose a large portion of their base for future elections (giving more victories to the Democrats) as well as giving GOP control squarely in the hands of the establishment so they can continue to nominate losers like McCain, Romney, Dole and George H.W. Bush.

So, I can see myself supporting every other GOP candidate if they are the nominee. Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, Paul and even Huntsman will get my vote (he might be a wayward conservative but at least he is honest about it. Plus, his record as Governor of Utah is much better than Romney's and his tax reform plan is actually ambitious). But not Romney. Not ever.


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To: dainbramaged

“Let’s see: I held my nose voting for Nixon, Ford, Bush I, Bob Dole, Bush II, John McCain, and probably Romney if he’s the nominee (hopefully not). Becoming weary and maybe if conservatives can take the Senate and strengthen the House majority, they can keep Mitt in line.”

Unfortunately I dont think that will happen. Almost no matter what he does he will have some Republicans supporting it because he is the President, and then if its liberal enough he will also get Democrats to come on board. That is how we got Medicare Part D after all.


41 posted on 12/15/2011 2:19:40 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: libertarian neocon
1. Newt
2. Santorum
3. Perry
4. Bachmann
5. Huntsman
6. Paul

Your ranking looks about right to me. I like any list without Romney included. I repeat myself, but I will NEVER vote for Mitt Romney. I wouldn't care if he selected Lindsay Graham or Olympia Snowe as his running mate, I still wouldn't vote for him.

42 posted on 12/15/2011 2:20:12 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: libertarian neocon

I hope this nit wit gets paid by the word. Who cares what this blowhard types , much less he he votes for .


43 posted on 12/15/2011 2:21:36 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: truthkeeper

“And if it should boil down to him and BO, you’d prefer four more years of the Boy King?

Just clarifying.”

I wouldnt vote for Obama either obviously. I actually think that a Romney victory would do more to destroy small government conservatives than another 4 years of Obama. So if you look at what is best for the next 20 years? The answer is not so easy.


44 posted on 12/15/2011 2:22:52 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: mk2000
I don't like Romney, but he's a natural born American, not a Third World Marxist impostor who is using his office to destroy America and Western civilization. The country will not survive 4 more years of Commie rule. Barring the miraculous emergence of a third party candidate actually capable of winning, I will vote for the Republican nominee.
45 posted on 12/15/2011 2:23:27 PM PST by hellbender
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To: truthkeeper

There is much of a difference between the two????


46 posted on 12/15/2011 2:26:44 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: libertarian neocon

So who are you going to vote for? Let me know and I will be sure and not vote for them. Why not. Just as stupid. Hey everyone! Just don’t vote if your candidate doesn’t become the nominee. Take your ball and go home.


47 posted on 12/15/2011 2:27:04 PM PST by willk
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To: mk2000

“Blah Blah Blah I don’t know this writer and I don’t care to read his reasoning as to why he won’t vote for Romney if he is the nominee. My answer to that is then get ready for four more years of Barry. If that’s what you want I think you are an idiot. This is not a personal attack it is just an opinion. I will never understand some who will just take his ball and go home because he didn’t get what he wants. Romney would not be my 1st or second or even third choice but I prefer him to a Socialist who wants to ignore the Constitution and change The United States as we knew it.”

If we continue to have Obama-Romney choices with it flipping every 4 years, we will have a Western European style government pretty quickly.


48 posted on 12/15/2011 2:27:18 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: taxcontrol

You actually believe that Romney is 100% equal to the Boy King?


49 posted on 12/15/2011 2:27:55 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: libertarian neocon
This is so far from over.

Pole-positions are changing daily, if not hourly.

It's not time to despair yet.

50 posted on 12/15/2011 2:28:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: muir_redwoods
Seems like we got us ourselves a nice circular firing squad developing here; this one will never vote for this one, that one will never vote for that one.
Why would Obama even bother to mount a campaign? No, zero, just watch us self destruct and pick up the pieces. Do conservatives even understand what's at stake? We're victims of the normalcy bias who can't believe we'll actually, really lose the country.
51 posted on 12/15/2011 2:32:45 PM PST by stormhill
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To: stormhill

I suspect there are many on this forum who will crawl over broken glass to vote for the non-Obama, whoever it is. They’re just not saying so...yet.


52 posted on 12/15/2011 2:35:07 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: libertarian neocon

Four of our potential nominees (Gingrich, Romney, Huntsman, Paul) I would have a very, very difficult time voting for in the general. I’m hoping Perry gains some traction, as I really do believe a president requires executive experience and he seems an honorable man (I have to take him at his word that money played no role in the HPV fiasco).

But I think, ultimately, weighed against four more years of an Obama unrestrained by the need to run for re-election, I would have to re-evaluate my “No more voting for candidates I don’t approve of” pledge.

I would have to weigh potential destruction of the long-term conservative platform vs the transient benefit gained from having a Republican I despise in power, or if that candidate might do more harm than good or just preserve the status quo. At some point we really do need to put our foot down and say “Enough!”


53 posted on 12/15/2011 2:35:23 PM PST by COgamer
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To: libertarian neocon

America has NOW the Congress and President they(we) deserve..

and will have the Congress and President they(we) deserve in 2012 as well..

IF NOT.. they(we) will change it..


54 posted on 12/15/2011 2:37:39 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: stormhill

I know, I have voted in ten presidential elections and never yet voted for a perfect candidate. Reagan was the best but he had his faults too. Romney’s certainly no Reagan but he’s clearly no Obama either. My choice isn’t pleasant but it certainly isn’t hard either. Romney by a mile, or should I say a kilometer?


55 posted on 12/15/2011 2:38:01 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: truthkeeper

I wonder how much of this anti-romney (or whoever) is more about reducing the republican turnout for the down ticket candidates.

lower turnout or invalidated ballots keep reid in his job.


56 posted on 12/15/2011 2:38:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“It’s not time to despair yet.”

Very true. I think if the conservatives can coalesce around a candidate or two we can defeat Romney as he still cant get over a quarter of GOP to support him.

I posted this because I am completely disgusted with how Romney and his allies are acting in the primary race. He just doesn’t deserve my vote.


57 posted on 12/15/2011 2:38:17 PM PST by libertarian neocon
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To: truthkeeper

I hope so; Heaven help me, I hope so.


58 posted on 12/15/2011 2:39:39 PM PST by stormhill
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To: longtermmemmory

You are spot on...I agree.


59 posted on 12/15/2011 2:39:48 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: muir_redwoods
I am continually surprised conservatives are so wrapped up with the White House election, they seem to forget/ignore the Senate race. Personally, I would rather see the illegal alien return to office than these incessant liberal Republicans we are forced to “vote” on. Take the Senate with conservative candidates, increase our majority in the House - then spend the next four years, if necessary, impeaching Barry and his Federally employed co-conspirators. This is also defined as exercising leadership - not reacting to what we are spoon fed by the existing Washington D.C. Power structure - or wasting uncountable time wrangling among ourselfs which of the useless Republican candidates will sc%#@ America the least.
60 posted on 12/15/2011 2:40:13 PM PST by ragamuffin (Fed up)
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