JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA to APPEAR to Testify

Atlanta Admin Court ^ | 1/20/2012 | Judge Malihi

[GregNH]

Defendant, President Barack Obama, a candidate seeking the Democratic nomination for the office of the President of the United States, has filed a motion to quash the subpoena compelling his attendance at the hearing on January 26, 2012.

[Obama Exposer]

What Minor decided not to decide was whether a child born in the United States to alien parents is born “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States and therefore a “citizen of the United States” under the Fourteenth Amendment. It was not necessary for the Court to make that decision because Virginia Minor was a “natural-born citizen.” Now you can readily see from the different nomenclature included by the Founders and Framers in the Constitution (“natural born Citizen” v. “Citizen of the United States”) that Minor did not call such a potential citizen an Article II “natural born Citizen.” Nor could such a potential citizen be a “natural born Citizen” given the Court’s own definition of the phrase. We know that U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898 decided that such a person is a Fourteenth Amendment “citizen of the United States.” Wong did not hold that such a person is a “natural born Citizen.”

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I appreciate the thought and work that you’ve put into this issue. I will worry about you now.

I worry about the nameless people who are working behind the scenes. I worry about the people who have gone to court, their lawyers, the families of these people. I worry about anyone who stands up loudly to give this issue publicity. I worry about their safety today and in the future.

I worry about countless citizens that do what is right in the face of injustice and then are struck down. It happens.

I think fighting evil is worth it. As for Obama and the people who have fostered this deception, they truly are doing the work of the devil, in my opinion. Stopping them is necessary. I hope this effort is successful because it is that important. America’s future is a stake.

In the end though, each of them will answer to God.

[BuckeyeTexan]

I don’t if any of that is accurate, but if it is, it sure does explain a hell of a lot about the clues Hawaii has released.

[Seizethecarp]

“CATHOLIC SOC SERV OF CT FILED BHO’S II SSN AS HIS LEGAL GUARDIAN.”

I regard this theory (unsupported by any document so far) as impossible because Barry's SS# was confirmed, IIRC, to have been issued in 1977, NOT 1971 when Barry returned to HI.

If Barry's US citizen grandparents were at the airport to meet him you think INS would turn him over to legal custody of a CT charity???

IMO, no chance. IMO, no documentation of any of your speculations.

Note that any recollections of unaccompanied travel in “Dreams” were processed through the brain of Bill Ayers to at least some degree according to forensic analysis by Jack Cashill.

[fhayek]

Thank you for your post.

[Seizethecarp]

“I believe that mother is Phillipean and her name is Ann Obama.”

I have not seen evidence of a single 1961-era document even hinting at the existence of an Ann Obama (I think you meant “Anna Obama”) who was NOT Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, while there are piles of documents, including INS files released in 2011 which affirm a baby born to SADO considered by the US INS to be the bigamously conceived child of BHO Sr and SADO.

[SvenMagnussen]

“If Barry’s US citizen grandparents were at the airport to meet him you think INS would turn him over to legal custody of a CT charity?”

It is procedure for ICE to take an Unaccompanied Minor into protective custody at a border inspection station. International Child Trafficking is a tremendous problem. There is absolutely no way an ICE agent would allow an Unaccompanied Minor to clear customs without a relative or legal guardian to accompany him/her.

And your redefining the message with your false assertion Catholic Soc Services applied for Barack’s SSN in 1971. Catholic Soc Services was assigned custody Barry Soetoro in 1971 because he was an Unaccompanied Minor. Catholic Soc Services paid for transportation of BHO Sr to travel to HI in Dec, 1971 so a Hawaii Court could make a determination who should have legal custody of Unaccompanied Minor Barry Soetoro.

After a Hawaii Court hearing, the Soetoro adoption was annulled, the court ordered the Barry Soetoro COLB was sealed and archived in Hawaii DoH and the Barack Hussein Obama II COLB to be filed, Catholic Soc Services of CT retained legal custody of BHO II until his 18th birthday and Madelyn Dunham was assigned BHO’s II foster parent.

Catholic Social Services of Connecticut filed for BHO’s II SSN in Connecticut in 1976,77 because they retained legal custody of Barack Hussein Obama II. When the Court ruled the Soetoro adoption annulled, the Hawaii Court ruled it was in BHO’s II best interest to remain in the custody of Catholic Soc Services of Connecticut. The Soetoro adoption annullment didn’t change BHO’s II citizenship status as an Indonesian National.

In 1976,77, Indonesian National Barack Hussein Obama II was entitled to receive a SSN as a Permanent Resident Alien of the U.S. Catholic Soc Services of CT retained legal custody of BHO II in 1976,77 and filed for him as his legal custodian.

It’s ironic how people continually ask me for proof of Obama’s SSN application data and completely acquiesce when Obama refuses to provide documentation. Or you could subpoena Catholic Social Services if CT or the State Department or AFDC program of Hawaii. The AFDC program of Hawaii has complete and thorough documentation of BHO’s II citizenship status.

[dinodino]

Sven, is any of your post based on verifiable fact, or is it all conjecture?

[visually_augmented]

WiskeyX: “The next thing you know, someone is going to suggest Stanley Ann was never pregnant in the first place and found a poor foundling to mother...who then qualified as a natural born citizen....(LOL)”

Interesting question. Has anyone ever seen a photo of Obama’s mother “with child”. Perhaps it was not just an immaculate conception - maybe it was also an immaculate gestation???

[Obama Exposer]

Here is the CBS news video feed on the story from last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpUwroYiqNg&feature=player_embedded

[jdirt]

Please give us a link to the case you keep “harping” on. I would like to listen to it.

jd

[jdirt]

If you look at the State Dept docs and the events at the time of WWII, dual citizens can be impressed into the military service of the other sovereign and compelled to war against the US. This is the basic concern that the founders had regarding their commander-in-chief not only that he have no personal allegiance to another sovereign but that no other sovereign have an enforceable claim in his allegiance under international law.”

I agree with you on this. If one holds dual citizenship, you can be pressed to serve in their military under the age of 35. Which just so happens to be the age you can be president in the US

[RummyChick]

I did. Or google it.

[DiogenesLamp]

"Orly Taitz is a lunatic attention whore who couldn't properly write a brief if Chief Justice John Roberts dictated it to her verbatim."

I would point out that Lincoln said of Grant, "I can't spare this man, he fights."

He also said after someone pointed out that Grant drank a lot, "Find out what whiskey he drinks and send all of my generals a case, if it will get the same results."

Orly is shrill and socially inept, but she puts up more of a fight than many "natural born" Americans.

[DiogenesLamp]

Well, they are running out of time. Perhaps they should be focusing on arguing directly with Judge Mahili.

They are doing exactly that. Check over there if you wish. This is the thread.

www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=6845&start=2550-

[Triple]

Really?? - I quoted you accurately, and what you wrote has important differences.

I’m sorry for you that you can’t see the differences.

Out.

[DiogenesLamp]

People believe they need to protect themselves because they know that the police won’t get there in time. I stated above that we have to be aware of the irrational people who will target others. But, aren’t we fortunate to know that our neighbors believe in self-protection, too?

I saw a good one the other day. It went something like this.

"A 357 Magnum is better than the police because the police arrives in 20 minutes while a 357 Magnum arrives in 250 milliseconds."

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Very good.

Thanks for sharing.

[DiogenesLamp]

I certainly do not wish to argue the announcement theories but I think differently having been involved to some degree in that investigation personally. I do believe they are fabricated. But in either case it is not conclusive of anything without records of back up.

If someone comes up with a paper copy of one of those newspapers which shows that notice isn't in there, then I will of course re-evaluate my thinking on this. It is my understanding that someone is offering a reward for such now.

I just don't think the number of people who would have to be relied on to pull such a "planting" stunt off, could be trusted to keep their mouths shut. One leak or mistake and it would catch the lot of them. The Risk/Reward just doesn't make sense. It's not impossible, but to my understanding of human nature it seems improbable.

[Triple]

M vs H (actual text)

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their

Page 88 U. S. 168

parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. The words “all children” are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as “all persons,” and if females are included in the last, they must be in the first. That they are included in the last is not denied. In fact, the whole argument of the plaintiffs proceeds upon that idea.

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Nope, the case says that there is a class of citizen, the natural born citizen, that nobody doubts or contests their citizenship. These natural born citizens are persons born within the jurisdiction to 2 citizen parents. There are other people that have debatable or sometimes argued citizenship, but they don’t matter in minor v heppersett, because in this case the woman has NBC status.

You have to be able to read and comprehend several sentences to understand the ruling. Maybe you should try again more slowly this time.