Can Romney beat Obama?

[seeking enlightenment]

With Romney squeaking out Ohio and a few other races before I have to question his electability. Ron Paul's supporters are going to support Paul no matter what but Santorum and Gingrich are splitting the vote. If Gingrich wasn't in the race then Romney loses the close races, there is not going to be anyone to split the the vote with Obama. Romney is also spending up to six times the money of the other candidates. Obama is talking about raising 1 billion dollars so Romney will probably be on the other side of the money battle and will his leads evaporate or will he be able to close the gap in the close races when he can't outspend Obama? I know that many people will vote for anyone but Obama but Romney doesn't seem to be able to inspire most of the Republicans and conservatives to vote for him so will he be able to pull in the undecided independents when the media turns the spotlight on him, he has yet to take a serious beating by the media yet and can he take it? If the race was a two man race and Santorum or possibly Gingrich had half his money I don't think he'd get the Republican nomination. So if Romney becomes the nominee and he no longer has his advantages and the pro Obama media comes into play, can he win?

[Hildy]

I pretty much agree with everything you’ve written. The only small point I’d quibble with is why Obama won. There was no way Obama was going to Lose that election. I do not think it was again BIsh. But those voters, the voters who had never come out before will not come out again for Obama.

I like Gingrich as well. But it is not his destiny apparently.

[SoConPubbie]

As to a brokered convention, and those arguing that route, I only remind you that in modern politics only 4 times has a brokered convention happened, and in EVERY ONE OF THEM, the party that had the brokered convention lost, and usually lost big. Trying to condense a Presidential Campaign down into 60-75 days is a nearly impossible task if you wish to win.

Romney is a sure-thing to lose, what would you have us do?

[Dave W]

No, I don’t like Mitt. In fact, I like him less now than ever. However, I do respond to such statements that the establishment has permitted Mitt to win. Blame the individual and vapid voters instead.

[mojitojoe]

It depends. I don’t think McPain would have beaten the Kenyan Marxist if some conservatives that hated him hadn’t stayed home and pouted. So we didn’t get McPain and instead we got a Kenyan, Muslim Marxist and his trashy wife who think they won the lotto.

It also depends on if the Republicans act like a bunch of cowards.... again.. or if they go after Barry Soetoro. Romney said he won’t so I expect he will basically campaign for Barry, just like McPain did:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrnRU3ocIH4

[Ballygrl]

This isn't a game for me. Romney is just as bad as Obama.

This isn't a game for me or many other Americans either. We have genuine concerns about the direction this Country is going, our Countries only chance is to win majorities in the House and Senate, we need the White House too. I don't want to see another Kagan or Sotomayor appointed to the Supreme Court. You and all the other Romney haters here can whine and scream because your candidate isn't winning the vote, that doesn't change a darn thing. You're free to sit home and not vote, but if Obama wins a 2nd term and all of a sudden we're faced with Obamacare going into effect, 1st and 2nd Amendment rights are suddenly at stake because of a left leaning Supreme Court, blanket amnesty goes into effect, even more Americans are on food stamps and welfare programs, just keep your whining to yourself because you contributed to the downfall!

[Eva]

....but Romney has said that Obamacare could be enacted on the state level. I live in a far left state, which has already laid the foundations to do just that if Obamacare fails in the courts. I don’t want any part of Obamacare.

I heard Mitt Romney on tv, after the Romneycare was passed in Mass, say that someday he hoped to bring a version of Romneycare to the whole country.

I said to myself, “not if I can help it.”

[Hildy]

Your thesis is incorrect. I don’t know what else to say to you.

[Ballygrl]

It won’t happen if we vote enough conservatives into the House and Senate. The 1 area I can give Romney some slack is his Governorship, I see the same thing happening here with Christie, he’s not 100% conservative, but you know what? for the 1st time ever my property taxes went down, more and more jobs are coming back to my State. Do I agree with Christie all the time? no, but he’s done enough good things that in some areas I can cut him some slack.

[Eva]

...but Romney isn’t even promising the right things. Romney hedges on Obamacare, all the time.

I’m not even going to be surprised if Obama doesn’t pull back on Obamacare before the election and call for it to be enacted on the state level, just like in Mass., leaving Romney stammering and stuttering.

WA State has already passed many of the state requirements in preparation for Obamacare. It would only take a small step to enact it on the state level.

[Eva]

There is no compromising on FREEDOM. I don’t want just some of my freedom back. I want it all.

[Trod Upon]

At this point a slightly smaller step in the wrong direction might be all we can get. And I have to disagree with you. Refusing to vote for the alternative to 0bama, be it Santorum or Romney, is refusing to counter a Democrat’s vote for 0bama. It’s that simple.

[trappedincanuckistan]

I didn’t say I wouldn’t vote for Rick if he were to face Obama. I don’t think voting for Romney over Obama is meaningful, and even has some downsides politically.

[Trod Upon]

Refusing to oppose 0bama is as good as voting for him, and you know it. If you have a mind at all you also know that voting third party because you’re having a tantrum will only help 0bama. I hang around here because I love America more than I dislike any one of our lousy candidates. What’s your excuse? Doing your best to get 0bama another four?

[Ballygrl]

There is no compromising on FREEDOM. I don’t want just some of my freedom back. I want it all.

Yes, and I'm sure Obama will help with that!

[SoConPubbie]

I don't want to see another Kagan or Sotomayor appointed to the Supreme Court.

And as has already been posted on this thread, Romney will nominate the same type of low-lifes given his record as Governor.

He did not nominate conservatives to the bench while Governor of MA, he nominated EXTREME liberals.

75% of his nominations were democrats, and the Republicans he nominated were RINOs.

You're not going to get any good SC Justices from Romney, they'll be just as bad as any that Obama put up.

[jersey117]

I hang around here because I love America more than I dislike any one of our lousy candidates.

Well said. Obama gets another four there will be no turning back. Any one of our lousy candidates is better than obama and his band of commies and csars. If re-elected, he will come after us with a vengance. If you think he's transformed us in his first term -- we ain't seen nothin' yet.

[Eva]

When Obama pulls back on Obamacare and calls for it to be enacted on the state level, before the election, Romney will be over, finished, caput.

[jersey117]

Bachman drafted the Repeal Obamacare bill. She will push it.

[SoConPubbie]

You and all the other Romney haters here can whine and scream because your candidate isn't winning the vote, that doesn't change a darn thing.

Your problem is your arguing from a position of emotion and fear, fear of Obama, not knowledge or factual evidence.

We've posted enough damning evidence on this thread to prove what a total waste of time Romney is. To prove that he is a complete Progressive Liberal.

We already knows he lies continually.

And the evidence we have posted is just a drop in the bucket; it doesn't include:

1. His implementation of a state-wide "Assault Weapons Ban" after the federal AWB had expired.
2. His support of TARP.
3. His whole-hearted support of Abortion.
4. His refusal to back the re-instatement of "Don't Ask Don't Tell"
5. His support of the scam Global Warming.
6. His SOcialistic Healthcare plan, RomneyCare.

We're arguing from a position of knowledge, facts and principle, you are not.

[SoConPubbie]

You're free to sit home and not vote, but if Obama wins a 2nd term and all of a sudden we're faced with Obamacare going into effect, 1st and 2nd Amendment rights are suddenly at stake because of a left leaning Supreme Court, blanket amnesty goes into effect, even more Americans are on food stamps and welfare programs, just keep your whining to yourself because you contributed to the downfall!

Once again your ignorance concerning Romney is on full display.

Obamacare, or at least some of it will be dismantled by the courts. Romney has already let the cat out of the bag that he wants to implement his RomneyCare model in all states, this is just as bad as ObamaCare, just not at the Federal level. Same thing, different flavor.

Romney has an anti-2nd amendment record given that he was in favor of the Brady Bill and he Implemented a state-wide "Assault Weapons Ban" after the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.

Romney will do nothing if the congress provides a hybrid Amnesty, it won't state it is an Amnesty, but it will be an Amnesty and there is nothing in his record as Governor, or previous to 2011 that shows he would be strong on this issue.

Factor in his continual lying about his past record, and anything he is saying about this issue in 2011, from a realistic perspective, is just plain smoke and mirrors.

just keep your whining to yourself because you contributed to the downfall!



This seems to be the inevitable lying accusation by Romney supporters when they can't find anything postive about their candidate to buttress their claim that we conservatives have to vote for him or else.

The only people to blame for Obama being elected on the GOP side, will be those who ignored the horrible Progressive Liberal background and record and world-view of Mitt ROmney and still kept pushing him and those too lazy or busy to actually research out his record.