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Survival of women during SHTF
SHTF School ^ | 4/9/12 | Selco

Posted on 04/09/2012 6:25:23 PM PDT by Kartographer

My first and worst concern was what is gonna happen with my kids, I had two toddlers, and I did not have any clue what is gonna happen, or even what is gonna look like when hell broke lose. We did not want to believe it could happen. We heard the sound of big guns miles away and stories of violence, rape and murder but everything looked so peaceful.

At the beginning, actually right before everything started during my meetings with my friends and colleagues at work we discussed the deteriorating situation, and pretty soon I found myself faced with important decision: is it worth to send my kids to some more “secure” region or to some relatives to neighboring country, or keep them with me, and wait what happens.

I never had question am I going to leave this place, I found it normal to stay in my city, with husband, in my house. Looking back now I know it was big mistake.

If I want to describe my worst feeling trough all of that, it was not hunger, danger, fire, cold or anything like that. It was definitely the feeling of uncertain future, complete absence of feeling that I control coming events, I was helpless and just like a leaf in a storm. Anything could happen.

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When Selco speaks wise preppers listen.
1 posted on 04/09/2012 6:25:33 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 04/09/2012 6:27:07 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Women will have to be Tigresses.

So Make sure you know This

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To Fight off the Looters who will be after You, Your Children, Your Supplies, Your Freedom and Your Life.

3 posted on 04/09/2012 6:34:29 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I will NEVER vote for Romney, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs if they nominate him)
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To: Kartographer

So “gonna” passes for literate communication?


4 posted on 04/09/2012 6:37:12 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Kartographer
If *only* I was as well-prepared as my wife, who over a period of two years went from being insulin-dependent and significantly overweight to being insulin-free, almost at her ideal weight, and running competitively (she just got in from a two-mile run, in fact).

On top of that she just got her CC. I believe she could give Sara Conner a run for her money now.

5 posted on 04/09/2012 6:41:06 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Kartographer

You can bet the animal element of America won’t be honoring the sanctity of womanhood when the SHTF here. We’re already at the point where they stand around laughing as someone beats then strip searches and robs a person. Indiscriminate rape isn’t far away and the elderly won’t be immune either. Have a nice day!


6 posted on 04/09/2012 6:43:05 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Kartographer

Personally, I’m for abandoning the “female urban professional” narcissists to the mob. As for my own wife, she’s a future Dem voter, but a better shot than me.


7 posted on 04/09/2012 6:44:28 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Redbob

Well, I’m gonna do what’s needed to protect me and mine..what are you going to?


8 posted on 04/09/2012 6:47:25 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: Kartographer

How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers. (Matthew 24:19)


9 posted on 04/09/2012 6:52:30 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Kartographer

Selco is a woman?


10 posted on 04/09/2012 6:52:57 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Clemenza

I believe many women are going to be unpleasantly surprised to find how many things they think they *fought* for were actually societal indulgences, and are completely revocable.


11 posted on 04/09/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Kartographer

In the worst of worst scenarios, only two kinds of people will have value. Young women useful as whores, and young men useful as soldiers. The rest of us are extraneous.


12 posted on 04/09/2012 6:59:29 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: Kartographer

bump


13 posted on 04/09/2012 7:06:17 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: jy8z

Clever response.


14 posted on 04/09/2012 7:06:43 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Kartographer

bump


15 posted on 04/09/2012 7:06:47 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Kartographer

btt


16 posted on 04/09/2012 7:07:22 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: KC_Lion

A friend of mine says a pistol is what you use until you can get to your rifle :-)


17 posted on 04/09/2012 7:09:46 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Kartographer

bfl


18 posted on 04/09/2012 7:19:05 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: papertyger

“I believe many women are going to be unpleasantly surprised to find how many things they think they *fought* for were actually societal indulgences, and are completely revocable.”

I believe you’re correct. My experience is that the American feminist movement has embittered a lot of good men who would normally feel it is their obligation to defend women from harm.


19 posted on 04/09/2012 7:24:00 PM PDT by kildak
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To: KC_Lion

That’s a lot of gun for the small hand of a woman.


20 posted on 04/09/2012 7:24:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Kartographer
heck, the women in my family are the ones who taught me to shoot and fight. Back when I was a kid, most of the women in my family stayed home, cooking and cleaning, ect, and the men had hard labor jobs. So, between batches of jams and jellies, and while the washing was drying on the line, I got a really got education. I once asked my grandfather, and my Dad why they weren't teaching me to shoot. Their reply: Mom and Nanny shoot better than we do with a long gun. Gotta love the Ladies in my family.
21 posted on 04/09/2012 7:29:03 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Kartographer
heck, the women in my family are the ones who taught me to shoot and fight. Back when I was a kid, most of the women in my family stayed home, cooking and cleaning, ect, and the men had hard labor jobs. So, between batches of jams and jellies, and while the washing was drying on the line, I got a really good education. I once asked my grandfather, and my Dad why they weren't teaching me to shoot. Their reply: Mom and Nanny shoot better than we do with a long gun. Gotta love the Ladies in my family.
22 posted on 04/09/2012 7:29:23 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: mamelukesabre
In the worst of worst scenarios, only two kinds of people will have value. Young women useful as whores, and young men useful as soldiers. The rest of us are extraneous.

Not true. Logistics is what wins a battle. The "whores" will give the soldiers a reason to fight, but the soldiers need support in the form of food, shelter, communications, supplies, ammo, etc. One big problem with the youngest few generations is that they grew up in a disposable society. They think if something breaks, you throw it away and get a new one. Well, that won't be possible in a SHTF situation. Having people around that can fix (or build) vehicles, guns, electronics, generators, etc. will be invaluable. Those of us with those kinds of skills will be well taken care of.

23 posted on 04/09/2012 7:35:34 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: mamelukesabre
In the worst of worst scenarios, only two kinds of people will have value. Young women useful as whores, and young men useful as soldiers. The rest of us are extraneous.

Not true. Logistics is what wins a battle. The "whores" will give the soldiers a reason to fight, but the soldiers need support in the form of food, shelter, communications, supplies, ammo, etc. One big problem with the youngest few generations is that they grew up in a disposable society. They think if something breaks, you throw it away and get a new one. Well, that won't be possible in a SHTF situation. Having people around that can fix (or build) vehicles, guns, electronics, generators, etc. will be invaluable. Those of us with those kinds of skills will be well taken care of.

24 posted on 04/09/2012 7:41:12 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: Redbob

Huh??


25 posted on 04/09/2012 7:41:12 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lurker

He interview some women survivors for the article.


26 posted on 04/09/2012 7:46:59 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
The wife likes this zombie killer:

It's fits her very well.

27 posted on 04/09/2012 7:54:47 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
Those of us with those kinds of skills will be well taken care of.

Sorry, but what immediately leapt to mind was the half-pint half of Master/Blaster from "Mad Mad - Beyond Thunderdome", stuck in the underground pig factory. But I guess in SHTF times a jobs a job ;-)

28 posted on 04/09/2012 7:55:39 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Kartographer

OMG I have no idea what this is about!?

I want to be prepared!!!

Who do I have to call?


29 posted on 04/09/2012 8:00:41 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: mamelukesabre
In the worst of worst scenarios, only two kinds of people will have value. Young women useful as whores, and young men useful as soldiers. The rest of us are extraneous.

LOL, your naivete' is pathetic. You watch too many action movies.

You know that thing called "civilization"? It's not here because there's an option to it.

SHTF or not, without the various aspects that make up civilization, everyone dies. Even the lusty soldiers screwing the young whores - all dead.

30 posted on 04/09/2012 8:07:44 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Misconception. The original 911 fits most women’s hands reasonably well. I won’t speak to the recoil, just the grip size. The 1911 has a fairly slim grip compared to most modern handguns.


31 posted on 04/09/2012 8:11:19 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: mamelukesabre

“In the worst of worst scenarios, only two kinds of people will have value. Young women useful as whores, and young men useful as soldiers. The rest of us are extraneous.”

I have medical training. Maybe they will keep me around.


32 posted on 04/09/2012 8:11:22 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Talisker

Hue foo-el! We will stampede your women and rape your cattle! Whut ease these “civilization” hue spick of?


33 posted on 04/09/2012 8:18:10 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger

I remember a line from “Lucifer’s Hammer”, of one of the male characters thinking that one of the good things about the asteroid strike was that women’s lib was dead 2 seconds after.


34 posted on 04/09/2012 8:24:20 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Talisker

you think civilization is mandatory? ha! Good one. No, not EVERYONE dies...just 95%.


35 posted on 04/09/2012 8:25:27 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: Marcella

When whores and soldiers are expendable, your skills are not quite as valuable as you think.


36 posted on 04/09/2012 8:27:29 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: Kartographer

My wife studied kendo
My oldest daughter prefers a rifle
My younger daughter Prefers a pistol
I prefer to be prepared so I train mine accordingly ;)


37 posted on 04/09/2012 8:34:15 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: tbw2

I don’t think the “death” of women’s liberation is a good thing, but death of the delusion of it sure would be.


38 posted on 04/09/2012 8:35:32 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Kartographer

What country did this happen in?


39 posted on 04/09/2012 8:44:17 PM PDT by MtnClimber (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Redbob
yes... especially when English is not your primary language
40 posted on 04/09/2012 8:51:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Redbob

Not everyone is fluent in multiple languages. No doubt you are an exception to this rule.


41 posted on 04/09/2012 8:54:36 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: tbw2

I’m a huge Pournelle fan. I’m a patron of his site at about the same donation level as Free Republic.


42 posted on 04/09/2012 8:58:17 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I wasn’t talking about the grips.


43 posted on 04/09/2012 8:59:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: MtnClimber

Bosnia.

You can read more of Selco’s experiences here:

A Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In The Middle Of A War Zone

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts


44 posted on 04/09/2012 9:18:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: MtnClimber

Bosnia/Croatia? Selco was in a city that was shut off and under siege (Mostar??) for over a year(?). Pretty interesting web site that he has.


45 posted on 04/09/2012 9:19:05 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: mamelukesabre

The other side of that coin, is, they will have a hard time finding me to start with and getting to me isn’t worth their being dead if they try. I have prepped since 1998. I won’t be seen if TSHTF and I won’t be underground.


46 posted on 04/09/2012 9:22:42 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Redbob

Sorry I thought you was trying to be a wisea$$, I didn’t realize that you didn’t take the time to learn that Selco is a Bosnian and self admittedly only has rudimentary English skills. Maybe you can translate for him. You do speak Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian right?


47 posted on 04/09/2012 9:25:40 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: mamelukesabre

Third group: people who know how to fix things.

Fourth group: people who are smart.

These two traits keep people alive and protected and there’s always value in that.


48 posted on 04/09/2012 9:38:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

well...

your 4th group is questionable. Certain kinds of smarts are more important than other kinds. Some kinds of smarts will be just plain useless.

Same goes for your 3rd group. When people are very busy killing each other, there quickly becomes a surplus of non-perishable stuff. People, food, fuel, and ammo become the most important but not necessarily in that order. Fixing things isn’t so important when its easier to kill someone and take his things.

Besides, how many people REALLY know how to fix things? I do. But in a SHTF scenario, lots of the things I can fix won’t be of use. What good is welding, wiring, and pipefitting skills when there’s no water, gas, or electricity? My old fashioned rigger’s skills may come in handy. Maybe. I can repair pumps and electric motors till the cows come home but I don’t see any value in that in SHTF.

That leaves basic carpentry skills. Hammer, nails, measuring&cutting, etc. Those are not rare skills. But what is rare is people who still know how to do these things without the use of electricity, pneumatics, hydraulics, and heavy equipment.

Who still has a collection of saws and planes and braces and bits? Who even knows the difference between a rip saw, back saw, cross cut saw, and a veneer saw? When’s the last time anyone used a saw set to adjust the pitch of saw teeth? or used a file or stone to sharpen a saw? Who knows how to build a scaffold out of nailed 2x4s? Or lift objects with block and tackle? Or even OWNS a damn rope for that matter much less knows any knots? People used to know how to figure the angles without using math. No one knows that stuff anymore.

These people are sufficiently rare that I would say they are irrelevant and will still be irrelevant in SHTF also.


49 posted on 04/09/2012 10:38:54 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line)
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To: mamelukesabre
"welding and pipefitting skills"

I say you would be a man for manual water pump and windmill fabrication. Both would be very useful in SHTF.
50 posted on 04/09/2012 11:48:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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