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Conservatives, Republicans: Fire, Aim, Ready!
WingRight.org ^ | April 12, 2012 | Beverly Nuckols, MD (hocndoc)

Posted on 04/12/2012 8:09:43 AM PDT by hocndoc

Conservatives are at it again: shooting our own.

When Conservatives decide not to vote for Republican candidates, Republicans lose. Conservatives lose. The Democrats, socialists, and atheists win. Obama wins.

Where Republicans voted in 2008, we won new offices. Where they voted in 2010, we won majorities. Conservatives made the difference in the winning races and in the lost races. Not only did we have fewer Republican victories in those races where Conservatives didn't vote, the races were decided by the least knowledgeable among us or by the Dems.

More than before, in conservative blogs and forums, I'm reading good men and women declare that they will never vote for Romney if he's nominated. They remind me that they were the ones who refused to vote for John McCain in 2008, or who (like me) voted for Sarah Palin and McCain just benefited as a side effect.

I certainly wish that Conservatives had found themselves working hard to force McCain to keep his promises for that last three years instead of watching Obama keep his.

And here come the third party rallies!

The problem is certainly the "GOP elite," and their support for Romney -- that's why Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum couldn't get a foothold, right? And why Newt Gingrich is still so far behind?

How many votes do you suppose the "elite" have, anyway?

Talk about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, yesterday, Rush Limbaugh warned Conservatives what may happen if the Republican nominee doesn't win. Yes, he titled the post of the segment "A Warning to the Republican Establishment," ending with a prediction that the Republican Party might never recover if "they screw this up."

The warning to the rest of us is ignored:

If this doesn't pan out to big-time electoral victory the way the establishment has it figured, then what will their excuse be? And I think I know. I think that if this campaign goes on and if it results in Obama winning, I think what the establishment is going to do is blame us. They're gonna blame us conservatives for once again being too rigid and too demanding and too narrow and unrealistic and all this, and telling us that we're the reason that Obama won.

Why not? That's exactly what happened in '06 and '08. (And don't forget Rush's own Chaos.) The media and the Left ate it up! The lesson learned was that no one can count on Conservatives. That's why we repeatedly watch people who should be our champions "pander" (Rush's word) to the "middle," the "undecideds," the independents.

Why not learn instead from successes, like the 2000 election, a victory that the Dems never saw coming? A good friend recommended that I re-read David Horowitz' "How to Beat the Democrats." One of the lessons is,

Lesson 3: There Is No Natural Conservative Majority (But You Can Create One through Political Action). The critical role Republican unity played in the election leads to a third lesson: There is no “natural” conservative majority.
. . . Such facts are no cause for conservatives to despair. What they are is a reality-check. If the conservative mission is to restore basic American values, the way conservatives fight the political battle will determine its outcome. There may be no current conservative majority in America, but there is a potential majority, if Republicans have the will and intelligence to create one.
David Horowitz (2002-10-06). How to Beat the Democrats and Other Subversive Ideas (Kindle Locations 842-843, 861-863). Spence. Kindle Edition.

Do we have the will? The intelligence? Can we forget the animosity we have had for each other the last year? Are we willing to say, "Let him who never had a change of heart cast the first stone?"

An estimated 56% - give or take - of the Republican National delegates have been decided, but 44% have not. The numbers aren't set in stone, yet, depending on what happens to the delegates who went to candidates that dropped out or in States like Iowa, where the actual choice will be made at caucus in June. "It ain't over till it's over."

I'm sure that I won't see Conservative blogs pulling their anti-Romney posts, but I hope to see a few willing to be positive and work together to ensure Primary victories for the remaining Conservative in the Republican Primary, in order to deny Romney an easy nomination. Is their motto, "Anybody but Romney," or is it, "Anybody but Obama?"


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To: al_c
"What would it take for you to support the ticket? Who would have to be VP?"

Even if they put JC on the ticket, I'm not voting for Mitt! I will not vote for O'bummer either! I will vote, maybe write in Palin.
21 posted on 04/12/2012 8:29:42 AM PDT by askrenr (HOOAH! It's an Army thing.)
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To: DaveyB

Apparently, the conservative movement and the moderates within the Republican Part as well have so little patience that they can’t learn that this overwhelming majority has to be BUILT. You can’t just expect everything to be just like you want it - right now! You can’t expect the perfect candidate, the landslide victory, the flawless administration; that’s not reality. What you do have to do is PULL TOGETHER toward BUILDING A BASE from which to BUILD A CONCRETE FUTURE, and then keep building. Unlike the Republican majority of the early 90’s, you do not have the luxury of relaxation. The committment has to be 110%, and it has to be for 110% of the time for all time. Throwing a little temper-tantrum ‘cause you didn’t get immediate gratification speaks directly to maturity and committment.


22 posted on 04/12/2012 8:29:51 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: tatown
If you don’t want to vote for the republican nominee, no problem, but don’t be so shallow that you think that Romney and Obama are the same person.

Perhaps you intended this comment for someone else because NO where did I say that.

23 posted on 04/12/2012 8:31:09 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Agreed. I will vote against Obama.


24 posted on 04/12/2012 8:31:29 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: hocndoc

You, like so many, are missing the point this election.

Get good House candidates on the ballots and conservatives will show up.
While they’re at the polls they’ll-reluctantly- cast a vote for Romney.

RINOs get the Presidency, ‘moderates’ get the Senate, conservatives get the House and everyone’s happy.

It’s called ‘compromise’ and RINOs should learn it.


25 posted on 04/12/2012 8:31:44 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: al_c

Allen West?


26 posted on 04/12/2012 8:31:55 AM PDT by Boiling point
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To: mnehring
They have passed and sent dozens of bills to the senate where Harry Reid just tables them and unilaterally prevents them from being voted on.

True, but they have also passed several bill that did get through the senate. Have you forgotten that big budget deal that saved a whopping 36 million. Or the debt ceiling issue that was raised by 2 trillion only 8 monthis ago (and is almost gone).

They are incapable of saying no to anything.

27 posted on 04/12/2012 8:32:14 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1/21/2009)
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To: al_c

“To anyone refusing to vote for mittens (i.e., against Obama) .....

What would it take for you to support the ticket?”

A different/conservative candidate. This is a (clearing throat) conservative web-site.


28 posted on 04/12/2012 8:33:47 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: hocndoc

Presidents come and Presidents go, but Congress hangs around longer than a broke brother-in-law. We need to focus on electing whoever the nominee is and ensuring he has a TEA Party Congress to keep him in line.


29 posted on 04/12/2012 8:34:23 AM PDT by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
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To: hocndoc

Exactly, I could vote for Newt over Miff even though he wasn’t my 1st 2nd or 3rd choice.


30 posted on 04/12/2012 8:35:53 AM PDT by Boiling point
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To: askrenr

The Lord Jesus Christ is not running, we can count on that.

What we do have to recognize is that all of those other, preferred candidates are not running, either. Whether they didn’t “have the fire in their bellies,” the staying power, or whatever, they are not in the contest.

I’m still voting “anybody but Obama” and my only choice in the Primary, at least today, is Gingrich. I hope he can hold out ‘till May 29th for the Texas Primary.


31 posted on 04/12/2012 8:36:04 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: hocndoc

This won’t stop the ‘tards in here from shooting themselves in the foot (or head, pick one).

They insist on electing Obama because they read something on some wingnut site about Romney (despite it being a complete lie).

Whatever, the rest of us grown ups will fight the good fight while they pitch a fit in the corner.

Now bring on the usual insults. Come get some, keyboard kommandos.


32 posted on 04/12/2012 8:36:22 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: hocndoc

If the Republicans want us to vote for them, then they need to give us somebody worth voting for.

It’s not “shooting your own” when the nominee isn’t one of your own.


33 posted on 04/12/2012 8:36:57 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Drill Thrawl

We need a *conservative* GOP majority in the House.
And we’re only about 40 seats short.


34 posted on 04/12/2012 8:37:22 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: arrdon

good post!


35 posted on 04/12/2012 8:38:14 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: hocndoc

This article demonstrates what conservatives are fed up with. Conservatives have been team players for the Republicans, but the republicans have not reciprocated over the years. They have continued to grow the government and participated with the progressive agenda under the auspices of “reaching across party lines.”

People who have learned the truth over time, are putting their foot down. The Republican party will not use me this time. I don’t care about their victory in the least. Republicans should have realized that one day they would have to “pay the piper.” That day has come.

Here are a few links you can enjoy to educate yourself.

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Yuri Bezmenov, ex-KGB, explains the process of subversion, which is the blue print being followed by the current government take-over. This seven part series outlines it well. Can you guess what stage we are in now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN0By0xbst8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoaS6Tt6ODY&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ30f9OfuFs&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX_9kKvyjJs&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bivEvWDWxlI&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bivEvWDWxlI&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgUmpwZiGjg&NR=1

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This video outlines things from the viewpoint of American insiders who know what is going on:

http://trevorloudon.com/2010/01/david-horowitz-and-democrat-pat-caddell-explain-the-radical-take-over-of-the-us-must-view/

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This link is a historical look at how the Germans were duped by the Nazi’s. The similarities are painful to see. There are six parts. This is a link to the first part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KG74s4DnRw&feature=related

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36 posted on 04/12/2012 8:40:29 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“They” don’t give us someone to vote for. We have to recruit, educate and support the people we want to vote for.

Half the delegates are still up for grabs.


37 posted on 04/12/2012 8:40:29 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: I have a mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it.)
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To: mrsmith; csmusaret

Agree with you both.

How about a reworking on Mama’s saying: If you can’t say something positive about one candidate, work hard for another (down ballot) candidate.


38 posted on 04/12/2012 8:44:59 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: I have a mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it.)
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To: hocndoc
“They” don’t give us someone to vote for.

Given the way the GOP-E has been pushing Romney specifically, and the amount of funny business going on that just so happens to always benefit Romney, it does tend to look like "they" do, indeed, decide who we're going to vote for.

Though I agree - we need to break their ability to do this and replace their candidate with a conservative one of our own, either inside or outside the GOP.

39 posted on 04/12/2012 8:45:13 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: mrsmith

I want the Senate and the House!


40 posted on 04/12/2012 8:46:06 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org: I have a mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it.)
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